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Forum Post: What To Do In Anticipation of Friday's Eviction

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 13, 2011, 5:07 p.m. EST by rmc (8)
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Okay -- I called 311. I waited 10 minutes for an operator, who took my complaint and told me that the office was swamped with calls in support of Occupy Wall Street. Rest assured, however, that you will be thrown out tomorrow. The Brookfield letter was, of course, a set up between the City's attorneys and Brookfield. Blah, blah, blah. This is what you need to do to prepare:

  1. Do the CD; a good idea.

  2. Right now -- immediately -- start finding places in the area, lofts et al, where people can sleep at night, in sleeping bags or whatever.

  3. Set up shifts so that the Park will remain occupied -- with standing and sitting people -- all night long.

  4. Keep the food coming and set up cleaning shifts.

It is totally possible to keep the protests going 24 hours a day without anyone sleeping the Park. The deal with Brookfield is that Zuccotti must be open to the public 24 hours per day. The most that the City can do is keep you guys from lying down (-:

So start working now on keeping the protest essentially as is -- 24 hours, democratic, visible -- without sleeping bags.

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[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 12 years ago

should we stay or should we go, vote here and find out what the community thinks

http://www.themultitude.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&p=128#p128

[-] 1 points by occupiedwallstreet (105) 12 years ago

I'd just like to be able to have a peaceful lunch in the Park again. You guys are the 1% who are infringing on the other 99%'s enjoyable use of a public space.

[-] 1 points by ribis (240) 12 years ago

Unrest is disruptive. Nobody likes to be broken out of their ordinary routines. Well, most people, anyway. It's comforting to find familiar places to live everyday life -- that particularly nice tree in a park, that bench seat in the old office building just far enough away from the A/C to be cool-but-not-frigid, that little scenic bend on a trail where nobody else seems to stop to just take it all in. We gain an attachment to these spaces; we see them as our own, in a very personal sense. It's natural and healthy behavior.

Still, when the larger routine is functioning to grind people into the pavement, to take away their hopes for self-betterment, for providing for their children, for retiring into conditions at all better than meager sustenance, then the larger routine must be disrupted. Sometimes, that means that the old familiar patterns are temporarily disrupted; sometimes, it means they fade away, remaining only in memory. This, too, is natural; this, too, is healthy. Change means more than new technological gadgets, more than steadily expanding corporate portfolios, more even than new laws and regulations. It's at the heart of the human condition, and it's both our pain and our glory. Sometimes it's as simple as a new phone, a new car, a new house; sometimes, it's as complex as reexamining our basic understandings of what personhood entails.

I'm sorry that your space has been disrupted. Nevertheless, everyone down there in the Park, brown- and blue-haired, shaven and shaggy, prim and proper and wild and wooly, has places they'd honestly rather be, niches they'd prefer to fill, people they'd sooner associate with. The reason they're in this space together is because they sense a threat to their own spaces -- their homes, their families, their lives are being infringed upon by the planet's strongest financial entities, and they're desperate for some recourse. Maybe the Occupation is that path; maybe it isn't. I'm not wise enough to predict the outcome. Still, I'm with them now. I hope for an America that can get back to working again -- it's been too long.

[-] 1 points by Idaltu (662) 12 years ago

I would like to afford to buy lunch

[-] 1 points by occupiedwallstreet (105) 12 years ago

I usually pack carrots and cucumber with a nice bananna or apple for desert. It comes to about a 1.50 a day. If you can't afford this, definitely look in to food stamps. They provide about 15 dollars per day per person if you are not making any money. So you can definitely afford this.

Here is the link.

http://www.snap-help.com/index6?split_id=98

Good luck!

[-] 1 points by Idaltu (662) 12 years ago

Thanks for the info...

[-] 1 points by mindhawk (175) from Jefferson City, MO 12 years ago

It is not 15 dollars a day, my food stamps was cut because I was making 200 dollars a week on unemployment insurance from 200 dollars to 100 dollars. 300 dollars a week is 10 dollars a day, 200, 6, 100, 3, because you are obviously not good at math.

Clever username though, "occupiedwallstreet" = troll, permission to disregard all its ideas granted.

[-] 1 points by occupiedwallstreet (105) 12 years ago

I'm sorry. I live in the Financial District. I'm living in occupiedwallstreet. Why am I a troll?

I didn't realize I did any calculations. Just made a guess on an estimate from other people I know on food stamps. Are you on NYC foodstamps. I know it's different in different areas. I'm pretty sure if you are making zero here its 15 a day. Though I'm basing this on second hand knowledge. If you are on NYC foodstamps then I'm incorrect. Sorry. But hey, that doesnt mean you have to be rude.

[-] 1 points by mindhawk (175) from Jefferson City, MO 12 years ago

It was in LA where the costs might not be quite as high, but that was not enough to eat on for a month.

You're a troll because you are here implying that everyone protesting is a person that society shouldn't value. And here you are using a website made by same.

When you say 'just get foodstamps' you do realize how similar that sounds to 'let them eat cake?'

Unless you've been on food stamps you should shut your mouth about them.

All that hunger I experienced I guess makes me have very little patience with you on this topic.

[-] 1 points by occupiedwallstreet (105) 12 years ago

I said "look in to foodstamps" not "just get foodstamps." I spend about $12 on food a day and could easily spend less. So I know that it can be done in NYC. And I've gone hungry before, I paid my way through undergrad and spent many days eating less than a dollar worth of food (ramen).

By your logic, anyway occupying the park would be a troll because you are implying that everyone that can no longer enjoy the park because of the occupation is a person that you or society shouldn't value. So I think your reasoning may be off. I'm sorry I have a different opinion of you when it comes to proper use of public spaces and I'm sorry that you think that makes me a troll.

[-] 1 points by mindhawk (175) from Jefferson City, MO 12 years ago

I don't mean a troll in the park I mean a troll on this site.

Admit it, you are here trying to make OWS stop. When you go to a site with the intention of only working against the intention of the site, that makes you a troll.

Happy to educate.

I was also a poor student, I even went to the hospital once for malnourishment, but being unemployed was a lot different. Worse. Living on UI+FS was like 1100/month, then they cut 100 from it. Because I was the one not being fiscally responsible.

But c'mon, 'look into foodstamps' is 'just get foodstamps', I lose respect when you try to weasel out of that rather than look yourself in the mirror.

It was a let them eat cake response, you have to live that down.

[-] 1 points by occupiedwallstreet (105) 12 years ago

How do you do that? Know my intentions. I'm for the end of crony capitalism. I'd just like my park back. Sorry to voice a concern that doesn't fall in line with yours. Very inclusive movement. Glad you guys care about all of us that are in the same boat with you, but not protesting. Very cool.

[-] 1 points by mindhawk (175) from Jefferson City, MO 12 years ago

The right to park access without too many other people in it is the first amendment in the constitution, right?

Let me look that up, no, I was wrong about that, it's the right to free assembly. /s

I think you should get used to being around your fellow citizens if you consider yourself such a patriotic defender of parks. Sounds like some of them might need some food in these troubled times? (hint: not cake)

[-] 1 points by occupiedwallstreet (105) 12 years ago

Your snarky jabs are so cute, even if a little sad.

Those staying in the park overnight are the ones breaking the law, but that's probably ok, right? You can pick and choose which pieces of law you'd like to follow. Cool. Keep it real, MO.

[-] 1 points by mindhawk (175) from Jefferson City, MO 12 years ago

It is called civil disobedience. In times of great injustice the only place for a just man is in jail. (Thoreau? MLK Jr? I think they both said that)

It is funny to me that you care so much about enforcing park statutes yet the war crimes of our presidents, the international law violations of our military, the international fraud of Goldman Sachs et. al., the disappearance of billions of cash in Iraq and Afganistan, the disappearance fraudulent signings of millions of mortgage documents, the constant lies and distortions of propaganda news channels, the utter loss of privacy(and dozens of other rights) under the patriot act and the NSA's ubiquitous internet dragnet, I could go on and I think you know I could.

But let's make sure the park laws are enforced 110%! Especially the one about evil sleeping bags! And bad smells!

See how you look? That is why I have to be snarky, because without humor I would just get too angry at my fellow citizens who apparently have the self-awareness and introspective capacity of woodland creatures.

I can't be there in person because I am afraid of losing my job, although I'll be out today in my city because it is my day off. You should have seen the looks on peoples' faces where I work when I called bloomberg's office and started talking about the constitution and park rules. Apparently something about that worked, pretty thrilling to me. I do get a kick out of mocking bad ideas and brainwashed people, you are by no means the least reasonable person I have had to criticize severely.

[-] 1 points by Idaltu (662) 12 years ago

Contact email to Bloomberg and the White House

Bloomberg http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mayor.html

White House http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

I tried the suggested phone number an got no where.

Send EMAILS NOW! Flood the damn thing....

[-] 1 points by anonrez (237) 12 years ago

This is a GREAT idea and should be floated at the NYC GA!!

Although I have to say that sooner or later, we WILL have to confront the power structure - head on.

We should try to prolong that moment as long as possible and make our peaceful tactics abundantly clear.

[-] 1 points by redteddy (263) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Now THIS is a good an doable idea, but it needs a great deal of participation and cooperation not to mention a way of keeping the cops from blocking access to the park.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 12 years ago
[-] 1 points by singlemom99 (57) from Bethlehem, PA 12 years ago

u guys can do it!! where is everyone gonna sleep? jw

[-] 1 points by rmc (8) 12 years ago

Big lofts in Tribeca and downtown; also in Bklyn, in DUMBO and Williamsburg. You can set up dorms-- like hostels. Start making phone calls today; you need to set up a committee, post on your board requests for space, etc. You need to organize shifts, so you'll need sign-up committees, too.

[-] 1 points by singlemom99 (57) from Bethlehem, PA 12 years ago

I love how the media is calling u guys lazy and stupid.......far from it! Good luck wish I could be down there.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

excellent, take shifts, if they run you out, circle around and flank them.

[-] 1 points by rmc (8) 12 years ago

They can't run you out; they have to keep the park open 24 hours per day. What they can do is keep you from lying down. So don't lie down.

[-] 0 points by oceanweed (521) 12 years ago

ows from start has been democratic and all republicans do nothing but demonize the movement read the signs listen to the people and see tax rich get money out of politics end wars have never been backed by republicans tax cuts for middle class modernize roads and bridges invest in middle class not banking class by raising minimum wage thats the occupy wall street message