Forum Post: What It Takes
Posted 9 years ago on June 27, 2014, 12:44 p.m. EST by turbocharger
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I have used this man as an example since he did this.
This is what it takes. Until many many more of us realize this and starting actually doing this, expect more of the same.
Until more of us do what?
[ EDIT ] Volunteer more of our personal resources and time I guess. To - what ? - ummm - OH !!! - take employment away from others and so reduce the cost of government? Heeeheeheeeee
EDIT-> And also allow a fucked up government to continue in a staged shutdown - with fewer unsightly results to prod the public and entertain foreign news services.
I think the union folk used to call them "scabs".
No - scabs - don't volunteer their time or personal resources to take away an others job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikebreaker While the lawnkeepers may not be on strike, it's close enough for the reference. Lighten up :P
[ EDIT ] The idiot volunteering to cut the lawn "is" a strike breaker - but a scab is a victim of an unhealthy economy just as are the rightfully striking workers. The scab needs a job to have a roof over their head and food in their stomach. The striking worker was forced to strike because of poor working conditions = a bad employer. The scab is abused by that same employer - because the scab is in even worse shape than the workers on strike. The guy volunteering to mow the lawn is just a douche and much worse than a scab.
EDIT-> My bad - the idiot ( volunteer lawn mower ) was not a strike breaker - as the usual work force was not on strike - nope - they were put out of work by the fucked up congress. The Fucked up Congress that the volunteer lawn mower was helping by making things look better than they were.
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Gee, that's what I came up with.......
I figured I better let him 'splain it.
luck with that. {:-])
Stop talkin and start actin
[ edit ] You can reply to me - when I wasn't even talking to you - but - you can't explain yourself ( your post ) to GF. Typical.
edit- > BTW - just what exactly did lawnmower man do that others should emulate? I do not see where he was helpful to anyone other than the fucked up congress and their shutdown of government and so the shutdown of peoples jobs among other things.
The same reason we cleaned the parks we occupied, because its not the governments job to do eveything, and people leading by actions is what we need.
If congress is too incompetent to operate, and the parks are public- as in ours (allegedly, although Occupy proved that to be a crock of crap), then for someone to say "Im not going to watch this thing go hell, I'll do what it takes" - thats the type of person who makes things happen.
I'm very surprised to hear you not only think that type of attitude is an asset, but to be openly stating this individual was actually doing harm, calling him a douche.
With everything going on in the world, occupy says the guy decides he's going to mow the lawn at the park is a douche. Wow.
Assuming we were still in the parks, would you suggest everyone leave if the gov shut down? Was occupy keeping the parks cleaner than they were before something you would be ashamed of?
I fail to see how anyone could see someone stepping up to the plate to take care of a national memorial while Congress has their heads up their butt as a "douche".
Took ya a whole day to come up with that load of crap - Hey? Is your brain cell all achy now?
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Yes, an entire 24 hrs! Would you care to entertain it, or is today an insult day?
I think calling the guy a douche because he's not going to watch a public park go to crap is a bit strange.
I think it odd that a protestor would want things to look artificially good - as if nothing is wrong - hiding reality the travesty which is congress.
Have you never mowed your neighbor's yard? Have you never picked up trash at a park simply because it was there? Never went on a trash collection?
Its not about hiding it, or whatever, its about doing what needs to be done and just doing it.
Everyone sitting around pointing fingers and doing nothing is what Congress does, we should expect more from ourselves.
One could say that with public parks, if we truly value them as our own, that when Congress is down, or even having a hard time paying bills, whatever, we have a duty to step up and help.
I mean, the guy is mowing the yard at the Lincoln memorial. I think that sent a stronger message to the poltiicians than people just sitting around and watching it go to hell would.
They dont like people taking action. It makes them irrelevant.
Yes - I "have" mowed my neighbors lawn before and cleared snow off of their sidewalk - none of which was hiding the fact of a dysfunctional government.
I find it disingenuous. Not because he actually mowed the lawn but in the way the action was and, as this thread shows, is manipulated. Your friend must be a small government activist. There seems to be some very awkward dancing that it is engaging in.
Ick ( visions of a leach or tick ) ick I say ick
My friend? Now GF - "that" hurts. {:-]) Yes it's dance is strange - here - on this stupid post as most everywhere it posts comments - strange.
My apologies. It seemed to latch on to you.
Im not understanding how you see someone mowing a park when the government as shut down as part of the problem.
Its pretty obvious to everyone that the government is dysfunctional. Its also pretty obvious we the people have no desire to step up and lead ourselves. So with those two glaring truths in mind, I thought this was a great example to set.
Plan for the worst and hope for the best. At the rate its going, we are all going to be taking care of the parks soon enough. And I can guarantee I know which group will be leading the charge to take care of them.
(FYI snow removal of sidewalks is part of government job in many municipalities. But Im glad you helped out :)
I didn't say sitting on the sidelines - You did - in your comment above.
Well its not like the people are allowed into Congress, so while it may sound exciting, its actually going to your local representative with petitions and then hoping the lazy bastard does something with it, at which point he/she decides their job is pretty cush and therefore the petitions get servd and thats that, end of story.
Or we tell them all to screw off and show them how its done. Occupy was about creating the platform- GAs, working groups, libraries, events, potlucks, etc. At no time did I ever look at this as stealing someone elses job that technically on the same idea but through government.
I bet you never considered removing the snow from the sidewalk as stealing from the guy whose job it is to drive that little snow machine, no?
You saw that it needed to be done, so you did it. Street sweepers suppose to clean the garbage off the streets, but I just do it, not sure if that means Im stealing someone's job.
Government shutdown or not, the people will be stuck taking care of the parks soon enough. Are you going to call them scabs, or are you going to grab a garbage bag and pitch in?
When its all said and done, we will be happy that lawnmowerman is there in your park, making sure its taken care of while Congress decides between lobster or steak, and which African country to bomb next.
I am not understanding how you see scabbing for a dysfunctional government is a good thing.
The park belongs to the people, not the government. The government works for us, if they are proven to be incapable, then they need to go.
Like I said, with the way things are going, we are going to be taking care of our parks without the need for government approval. I hope you extend a bit more courtesy to the (most likely) occupiers who will be volunteering time to work in their communities when the time comes.
Its coming, and this whole "its not my job" mentality is going to get it here even quicker.
Your government is shot. Its done. Its a total disaster, incapable of even the simplest aspects of government like maintaining roads and parks.
We will be cleaning and mowing the parks to preserve them. Count on it.
The government belongs to the people. Instead of promoting people taking someone else's job = parks employees. Why not promote people to go onto the floor of congress and pass legislation ? Legislation that would put people to work - work for a living wage.
Your lawnmowerman exemplar SUCKS. By promoting such you try to take the public pressure off of the dysfunctional government.
If you think people sitting on the sidelines and hoping to pass legislation is the answer to societies problems at this point...
They wouldnt even let a commoner like lawnmowerman into the halls to begin with. People like him, you or me are not allowed. We are the peasants.
But lawnmowerman doesnt care. He doesnt care what dumb shit they are doing. He sees something that needs to be done, and just does it, no questions asked.
Congress could learn a thing or two from lawnmowerman. The last thing we need is more people talking about pandering to the pathetic politicians.
I'm not seeing where you called the guy a douche.
https://occupywallst.org/forum/what-it-takes/#comment-1036801
Ah. Ok.
Admittedly harsh on a misguided individual - but .......
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