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Forum Post: What is the most effective way to help OWS from online?

Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 12, 2011, 6:56 p.m. EST by yoss33 (269)
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because i live far away from any city with an Occupy event, and am unable (at least for now) to attend one in person.

So what are some ideas or suggestions anyone would have about how to contribute to the positive growth of this movement?

And i ask this, already knowing and doing certain things, circulating information among people etc. but i'm more asking just for a some new good ideas i hadn't thought of, or some creative brainstorming in general.





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[-] 3 points by Publius1981 (22) 11 years ago

This should be the lead item in the GA. For every person camped out, there's 1000 that are wanting to know how they can be a part but for whatever reason, can't be there.

For starters, it would be helpful if we could have a clear, well-reasoned statement about what OWS is about that doesn't sound like it's plagiarized from Foucault or Marx. I'm frequently asked by friends and colleagues what OWS stands for. I know you're against "neoliberalism" and corporate greed. I have nothing I can cite or quote, and I have to come up with my own explanation.

[-] 1 points by yoss33 (269) 11 years ago

I'm going to start a website called anti-occupy, and slam the occupy community for awhile, then when everyone feels good about hating on OWS, i'll make a surprise announcement that anti-occupy is actually pro-occupy, then i will officially change the name of the website to pro-occupy and post useful occupy information, but keep the web address to anti-occupy to trick as many non believers as possible into coming. An ambush!

lol no, i probably won't. Not sure if that would be too productive. Might be fun though.

Or i'll start a rumour that Occupy Wall Street is really under control of alien overlords. If that rumour isn't already around, that is.

Or what hasn't been occupied yet? I'll go camping and call it 'Occupy wilderness' and get some media out there lol

or a more serious suggestion, occupy near big banks, that way people will have something to think about each time they go to the bank, hence a greater potential for people switching banks?

[-] 1 points by OWSNewPartyTakeNY2012 (195) 11 years ago

make a more organized site or donate money.

[-] 1 points by yoss33 (269) 11 years ago

thanks everyone. Pretty much what i've been doing. Another thing is whenever watching OWS or Occupy related youtube vids, thumbs up and leave a comment, it helps boost the results or whathaveyou.

I'll check out that petition and blog as well.

I think part of the real power of this movement is when people come up with creative ways to keep it moving and growing. The occupy concept itself is highly creative and surprised everyone. That's part of the power of it, it needs keep on surprising people, and getting their attention, dispelling so much of the smear campaign and all the shady subversivness going on.

Not to say it is all squeaky clean and fault free itself, but I really believe in the heart of Occupy, and the people who's hearts occupy... occupy and if we can stay true to that overall, i love our chances.

[-] 1 points by TakingBackAmerica78 (94) 11 years ago

You can go to my blog and sign a petition calling for the resignation of a corrupt politician.


[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 11 years ago

Keep informed - not by the corporate media, but by OWS directly and alternative media.

Share your concerns and information with family, friends and community. You may very well find people with similar concerns. The more OWS grows, the more powerful we become.

Undertake positive personal action. Opt out of corporate gods and services. Support your local economy. Start an occupation wherever you find injustice.

[-] 1 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 11 years ago

The best thing you can do is to keep on educating yourself and others with the truth.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 11 years ago

yoss33, Occupy does not have functional strategy to see demands met. Period. I've not seen the kind of accountability you exhibit, just by them showing up and debating stategy that stands a chance of making a real change. You will, they won't I don't know where they are. Maybe you can find them.-----

With the demands Occupy has, like corporate money out of politics, corporate personhood, at this late date, the nwo mentality is running an end game manuever and depends on ineffective, disorganized non strategic activism to succeed. By default Occupy is providing it whereas with a little adjustment towards recognizing that working with the law, article 5 of the constitution, huge capacity to meet demand can be gained. Not to mention greater protection from law enforcement as they seek to defend the constitution.

Why is Occupy stuck? Social structure dominates the unconscious existence that is run by image and cognitive distortion while academia deprived of education into official structures of US gov and methods to impel true change by teaching the truth about behavioral potentials of the unconscious mind in group behavior.

[-] 1 points by yoss33 (269) 11 years ago

no doubt. Occupy is a state of mind almost? I just like to think creatively, bring some freshness to it always, but stay true to the heart of the Occupy, economic equality, accountability of banks/corporations/govt. and stand strong if nothing else on principles/ethics with this actively. Constantly circulating discussion in the broader areas of society, meaning everywhere, not just at camps, though those are important obviously as well, but at church, school, work, socially, etc.

I think it is almost like a shift in collective awareness and even consciousness that if we can keep it peacefully non violent though active/"militant", akin to Gandhi and what he called the 'truth force' that progress can really be made, history has proven that it can be done.

The amazing thing is how broad the implications are of pretty much every level of society with what Occupy has taken itself to go at. And all the better, in my opinion, not to say it will be so nice and neat and easy to figure out.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 11 years ago

Constitutional principle could be the "western civilization" that Gandhi thought was a "good idea". With practice I believe it will be. Article 5 NOW!

[-] 1 points by yoss33 (269) 11 years ago

what is article 5?

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 11 years ago

Article 5 of the constitution is Americans first and last constitutional right. It is democratic control over amendments to the constitution if 3/4 of the states are ratifying.

Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.-------

[-] 1 points by yoss33 (269) 11 years ago

ok, in that case, i'm with you.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 11 years ago

Very important to understand that Americans must embrace natural law and dissolve as many differences as possible. When Americans do this, they do something that corporations and corrupt politicians cannot do, which is conform to constitutional intent.----

Americans need to begin a contest of reason between government and their assemblies. Who can reasonably define the greater constitutional intent with regard to a given issue? Everytime the officials fail to show how their proposals provide greater constitutional intent, they lose and must change their way.-----

With amendments to the constitution, citizens using state powers to ratify can "alter and abolish" aspects of the constitution under article v amendment just like the Declaration of Independence before the constitution grants.


[-] -1 points by DudleyE (94) 11 years ago

Yeah it helps to know what the hell the group is about. Not even the die hards in the park can tell you...other than spouting some half baked socialist drivel about fairness!