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Forum Post: What is anarchism?

Posted 8 years ago on Nov. 20, 2011, 11:24 p.m. EST by ronimacarroni (1089)
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From what I understand anarchism is having the work place managed democratically by the workers who would ensure you fulfill your working quota then you'd be given a voucher that would grant you access to getting anything for free.

Is that it?



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[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago

Well so it seems that every political system can describe how a society would function except anarchism. Seems like a hard sales pitch, but maybe that's just me.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"Is that it ?" : Decide For Yourself ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism .

Re. a True American 99% Heroine who espoused these ideas : http://www.lucyparsonsproject.org/ .

per ardua ad astra ...

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago

I don't want to decide for myself.

I want a short video showing how an anarchist society would work. Or heck just something showing how the Anarchist Spanish society worked. But information seems hard to find.

[-] 1 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 8 years ago

if you are looking for a bunch of pre-digested information all tied up neatly so it does not offend your sensibilities. I doubt highly you will find it crawling around the likes of this forum.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago

Its not so it doesn't "offend my sensibilities" its so it makes logical sense.

[-] 1 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 8 years ago

ah, I see. You know when I asked my grandmother, at 86, if she had some wisdom of life to pass down to me, she said "Don't try to figure it out". I was kinda pissed. Because I like to try and figure it out. But maybe this is good advice for you.. it worked for my grandmother, and she is still alive today.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

You "don't want to decide for yourself" ? Really ?!

Do you therefore seek to find information to confirm or conform to an existing notion / idea / theory , that you may have ? Or are you trying to 'blag' some help with an essay / paper which you're writing ?!

In any case, try the following 'short animated films' :

a) "The Crisis Of Capitalism" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0 , where renowned academic David Harvey asks if it is time to look beyond capitalism towards a new social order that would allow us to live within a system that really could be responsible, just, and humane ?

b) "Language as a Window into Human Nature" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-son3EJTrU , where Steven Pinker shows us how the mind turns the finite building blocks of language into infinite meanings.

c) "The Empathic Civilisation" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g , where author, political adviser and social and ethical prophet Jeremy Rifkin investigates the evolution of empathy and the profound ways that it has shaped our development and our society.

etC. eTC. ETC. ...

ad iudicium.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago

Well I just think that you can't advocate a political theory if it has no foundation. That's why "deciding for myself" doesn't really appeal to me.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

For you to claim "no foundation" for a body of thought, which is actually very deeply concerned with ideas re. "Freedom, Liberty and an Individual's Place IN Society" is seriously off the mark and obviously a result of your admitted prejudice. Do try to at least give 'The Wiki' Piece a cursory read.

Ho-hum & ad iudicium ...

[-] 0 points by Glaucon (296) 8 years ago

There are many types of anarchies in practice, and it would be impossible to predict how an anarchy would work in a new socio-political context. America has never been run with an anarchy, so we have no idea how it would turn out in practice. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. There is no crystal ball in this game. It's about taking a chance. Remember, there is always a gap between theory and practice.

Look at republics throughout the world and you will realize there are many variations. The culture of the people as well as their history places a large part on how a political system gets implemented and eventually works out.

[-] 1 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 8 years ago

.. you can always look it up. Better to figure it out for yourself. I hope you don't believe everything you are told. Try wikipedia, let me know what you find out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

By the way Jimmy wales is asking for money again. It was at $5 the other day and just went up to $10. If I were you I would pay it right away before it goes up again.

[-] 0 points by golum (46) 8 years ago

Emma Goldman the GOD-MOTHER of anarchism said it best in 1914 or there-abouts.


She knew that the communism of RUSSIA or CHINA would become TOTALITARIAN just like you saw with Mao or Stalin, or for that matter Bush or Obama's fascism.

PURE COMMUNISM is PURE communal-ism, or community-ism, its about people helping each other.

Today the USA is about PEOPLE stealing from each other, thus USA is a kleptocracy ( government ran by common criminals ), but held together by the glue of Fascism (corporate power).

The problem of course to understand the definition of anarchism you have to understand "PURE COMMUNISM", ...

Many books were written at the turn of the century about "NATIVE AMERICAN ANARCHISM", essentially free people living without a government.

Those that want government are always asking for MORE totalitarianism, government has always and always will be about Killing, beating, and Imprisoning, which is why TODAY USA is the worlds #1 Government.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago

Well I guess I've been looking more into anarcho-syndicalism.

Pure communism doesn't seem as practical I think.

[-] 1 points by tonybaldwin (235) from New Haven, CT 8 years ago

You might want to look at Libertarian-Socialism or social-libertarianism. According to Noam Chomsky, these are equivalent to anarchism, and/or arose out of the first anarchist movement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_libertarianism Read anything by Chomsky. He's brilliant.



[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

"ronimacarroni" = TROLL

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago


How is this trolling?

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

"Denial is not just a river in Egypt". .... :o)

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago

and uranus is... ur anus

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

Ah! what have we here? Another ANAL-FIXATED little troll....

[-] 0 points by Glaucon (296) 8 years ago

The only troll in this posting is you. Ronimacaroni did nothing but post a question which is extremely pertinent to Occupy.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

Glaucon = Thrasymaque = long-outed TROLL

[-] -1 points by Glaucon (296) 8 years ago

In theory, anarchy only means one thing: A structure without a leaders or leaders, without hierarchy. A horizontal or flat structure where every element is of equal strength or importance. Here is the etymology of the word: ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: via medieval Latin from Greek anarkhia, from anarkhos, from an- ‘without’ + arkhos ‘chief, ruler.’

In vernacular speech, the idea of anarchy is often associated with chaos and violence. However, this is not a staple of anarchy. There have been anarchies that were not violent. Just like hierarchies, in practice there have been all sorts of anarchies.