Forum Post: What happens if the 1% does not reform? Revolution?
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 20, 2011, 4:13 a.m. EST by MASCEL
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I had to research what a revolution would be like if the 1% does not reform. Scary I do have to say but if it is what it takes to get our country back so be it we are doing for the future generations since we fouled this one up so bad. The two links and each one are different watch both of them.
The Revolution is already underway. The 1% will never abdicate their power. We will take it from them, nonviolently, throwing ourselves on the gears of the machine and breaking it with our own bodies. Until they give us what is ours (our power)
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. -- John F. Kennedy
I have no doubt that there are those among the hard right, who have labored long and hard to achieve their grip on power through their repelican minions in Congress.
I have no doubt that they would rather burn this nation to the ground than see an end of all they have achieved.
Yet I say, this is an international movement, one that has just begun. Those who have trillions of American dollars stashed overseas and are content to let the nation burn will not easily escape.
We leave it to their friends and allies to decide for themselves - how far will this go.
Without Justice
THERE WILL BE NO PEACE.
simply put, we vote them out of power in government and then make new laws.
There is enough democracy in our system for us to take the power back.
We just have to get lucid on how thats done inside the system legally.
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.followthemoney.org/?gclid=CMbY87bB-qsCFUPt7Qod9HE8mQ
http://maplight.org/us-congress/guide/data/money?9gtype=search&9gkw=list%20of%20campaign%20donations&9gad=6213192521.1&9gag=1786513361&gclid=CP61oYbB-qsCFQFZ7AodcTF0jw
http://www.opensecrets.org/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/our-new-wiki/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/non-violence-evolution-by-paradigm-shift/
I saw a video where the voting machines can be rig with software to put in who they want to.
obviously true that the elections are rigged. but how do you lie at that game when a coalition of 70- 90 percent all vote for a new third party? The public would see transparently through such a rigging, and so that would simply end the game the other direction. You can only rig an election and hide that when the real numbers are within 10 percent or so of each other... 40-60 or so. Further stretch than that, and its obvious its been rigged to everyone.
Esp if the 99 percent make a habit of otherwise declaring and recording their vote.
ALso... something to consider- the real reason why they try to talk us into a "secret ballot." that way only the secret vote counters know the real numbers or can audit the count.
What if we all vote both in the system and on a wiki or etc?
How can they tell us its some other numbers if we keep our own count?
I told them to do that back in 2000, but the dems had me deleted from site after site for pointing out HOW to combat rigging the vote... just another proof- BOTH parties are COMPLICIT in the rigging.
Its simple, easy as pie- to rememdy as i have explained... all that has to happen is for you all to LISTEN to me which.. would be a welcome change...sigh...
While discussing a large scale use of write in ballots, I realized, the significance of the missing voters, would far outweigh the candidates voted for. It seemed very functional.
If enough people are united, then change will happen. It doesn't matter that the 1% wont reform. Because without the support of the people, they will cease to have power.
Looks like it is headed towards war with the way the cops have been acting The time has come to remove the politacl process and rewrite history and the constitution. I can see protesters abandoning cars on bridges to disrupt traffic. I see all kinds of visions in my mind about what is to come.
Are you serious that the 1% are going to run. If the 1% were to leave and all we had a wellfare state like greece, italy, portugual, boy would we not be a great country. Poverty, worse off, and less jobs.
Let the 1% take thier stuff and go and see how well you are at that point and time? You really feel that taking thier wealth, that they worked for and developed and created is your right? Wrong. Many of the wealthy came from nothing and said I don't need a handout like you are asking for.
They leave, take thier wealth, their jobs, their ideas, where will this country be? Very interested to know your opinion.
True reform is almost impossible. The 1% are strongly tied to the politicians, no matter which party you vote for. US is gradually losing the spirit of democracy established by its founding fathers. Democracy can not ward off corruption as you can see in many of the developing countries. US evolved to to be the leader of the world because it was dynamic, innovative and diversified in a moral way. Without a moral supported democracy, we are no difference than the developing countries.
OWS said they spoke for me, the 99%.
They were doing it wrong. So I came to speak for myself.
Dont you dare to presume that a revolution is what the people want or need. OWS wants it. And ONLY OWS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
I really liked the link you sent me and your name says dontwatchthis, I would call the new world heaven, thanks for sending it to me. I am all for it.
Okay I am downloading and will watch it, thanks for the link almost 3 hours long but I will watch it.
The notion of revolution is at the top of this page right under Occupy Wall Street. My problem with that notion is what does it mean? I'm not talking about violence vs. nonviolence, which are after all mere tactics, process, a means to an end but not an end in itself. The notion of revolution remains totally ill defined by OWS except to the extent that the rectification of all the grievances presented in the Declaration of the Occupation might be meaningfully understood as a revolution.
Give no quarter to the Jews.
Bloomberg is a Jew, how the hell did this Jew get elected??????????????
Why did you vote for him????????????
You seem to forget that it is the Jews that are leading the 1%.
And it is the Jews that control America foreign policy.
And it is the Jews that is causing all this trouble in Egypt.
OWS would need to get much more support from the real 99% if it hopes for a revolution. Right now, with its marxist talking points and large amount of 9/11 truthers on board, it is only alienating many of those not on the far left. If OWS, in its current form, were to try for a revolution, it would be shut down extremely quickly.
Have you seen the movie DALLAS ?! Do you want to get rid of cunning people (J.R.)!? Vote petition on the Internet : http://wh.gov/jkl
Not voting on anything till OWS Leaders come out and tells me too.... There are alot of petitions going around and on articles bills to sign and I know nothing about them. Only thing I am going to do is make myself available to be a pain in the 1% ass right now.
The 1% will turn on each other, as the 99% join each other. They will likely feed each other to the mob, to save their own. It is the nature of the greedy few as it is the strength of benevolent many.
It's the other way around my friend.
Stalinist Collectivism, created incredible distrust and fear, amongst all those, who had anything to lose. For those, with little to nothing to lose, the effect was not often perceptable. Results may vary.
Are you working on any new posts? I enjoy your unbiased assessments.
i have a big post coming up.
You should start a blog.
I agree with you, did you see that video of Newt Gringrich about the OWS it will crack you up, the idiot just admitted in plain site that he is standing behind Corporate Americas corruption LOL by bad taste of telling OWS to take a bath and get a job. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJN56XPldms
Aloof, mocking, elitist and disparaging of the citizen, are not qualities of a statesman, yet it is repeatedly acceptable, in American politics.