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Forum Post: What Happened In The Boston Marathon Explosions? 6 Different Vantage Points

Posted 1 year ago on April 16, 2013, 3:19 a.m. EST by jeremylin56 (23)
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6 different vantage points of the Boston Marathon Bombing. What really happened?

http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/what-happened-in-the-boston-marathon-explosion-6-different-vantage-points-118342/

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[-] 2 points by OccNoVi (415) 1 year ago

OWS on Facebook has a horrible item up that presents a conspiracy theory that at least one of the amputation injuries in Boston was faked.

That is madness.

Please delete --- what else ???.

Complaints that this injury is a fake cannot be accepted as in any way reliable. Multiple angles are depicted in different images. There is no question that the injury happened as originally described.

http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/boston-5.jpg

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

when we fail to address an issue like this, it grows.

It festers.

It mutates.

Assertions of fraud and of conspiracy of this nature are but one consequence. We cannot allow people to inquire into the nature and the shape of reality by engaging in the distortion of that reality on unsuspecting persons and not expect to reap consequences.

do something about it

or shut the fuk up

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

that targeted a very specific area

and the nations flags were together

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

Additionally, President Obama said, “We will find out who did this and we will hold them accountable," earlier tonight in a national address, and law enforcement officials have been told to act as if the event is a “terrorist attack.”

Drone on

[-] 2 points by MrMeee (2) 1 year ago

Sure is interesting that the House of Reps is now working to pass HR1162 right now in the aftermath of this. This resolution further tightens up the government's ability to gather cyber information. Read about this bill, then consider the timing of the attack and timing of this bill - sure is suspicious.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3160) 1 year ago

Interesting indeed.

[-] 4 points by Renneye (3160) 1 year ago

F#ck off...coward. Hiding behind another name. AND, Zen has far more strength in his mental constitution, than you could even begin to hope for in the mettle you carry inside your sorry bag of bones. Leave him and this forum alone. You're contributing "0" here. You piece of shit!!!!

[-] -3 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

I'm sorry. I thought you were concerned about the government spying on us electronically. I guess you think it's ok for the prez to do it. I may have to move some people of off Zen's squad and have them take a look at you. Just to be safe.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

you should go pick on someone your own size -

o wait

sorry

you can't find anyone with a pecker that small . . .

[-] -2 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Having seen the footage of the camera we have in your bathroom, I'm gonna have to concede defeat to you on this one.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Intimidated and jealous. Too bad. No need to be really. Just turn off the camera

I mean, stop fantasizing and get a life

[-] 1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 12 months ago

Obfuscation:

While Blood Pours from the Wounds... Obama, speaks of "recovery." And chooses the purlieu of ministry, rather than the quarterdeck, to deliver a polemic inclusive of minor tag-lines on, for example, the prolongation of liberal immigration and student visas, while completely ignoring the failure of our FBI, Homeland Security, and Immigration Services. Americans should be outraged; they should be angry. And they should hold these people accountable.

Be that as it may, furthermore, & etc:

"It does not follow that alien race and allegiance may not bear in some instances such a relation to a legitimate object of legislation as to be made the basis of a permanent classification." (Clark v. Deckenbach, Supreme Court, 1927)

And whether people realize it or not this is the direction; - eventually we must emerge from the obfuscation introduced by the need to discard habeas corpus in time of war, to introduce a separate classification of "Terrorist!," which fully defines their rights as aliens and permits us to try them, not for "hostilities," or the emotionally adverse or even hostile thoughts that precipitate, but for premeditated acts of violence.

Tribunals - historically created by commission to adjudicate final accountability [to war] - have no place here.

And so, we shall proceed... to "recover."

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy2 (3) 1 year ago

Follow the motive who has the most to gain, without evidence I would guess it was an Obama plant, as each time a bomb goes off, our government takes away more of our rights, and ignores the fact that all powerful governments today kill more people than terrorists ever did.

[-] 1 points by securityguy (4) 1 year ago

Laws Being Written To Screw You

Message at //i.imgur.com/g7leBHW.png

WARNING:

I work on a security commission and I’ve just received word to start on a campaign we’ve been working on for the last two months and now it all makes sense.

I’ll keep it as short can I can

They’re going to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20s and say he did it because he’s unstable.

They are going to find firearms and a NRA book in his home. They are going to to say he used reloading powder for the explosion and that reloading powder shouldn’t be for sale to the public. They are then going to say that because the powder in ammunition can be used for explosions that the number of rounds you can buy should be limited and taxed to help pay for these events.

I can’t do anything or I’ll lose my job and possibly face criminals charges. Please don’t let them get away with it. They won’t find the suspect till later this week and the raid is issued to occur on Friday. This was a staged event. The people hurt are real but the event was planned. Don’t let them hurt our rights.

I’m at work so I used a copy of a picture from another thread. Also please don’t mention me. It will seriously hurt me.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Tea Party pol uses Bombing to fight immigration reform

http://www.nationofchange.org/tea-party-congressman-uses-boston-marathon-bombing-justify-opposing-immigration-reform-1366212876

"In the end sir, have you no decency left"

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

So you compare Barnie Frank to the racist anti immigrant tea partier why??

He isn't even a politician anymore.

Peter King was just doing the fear/war mongering 2 step of exploiting events as always.

Alex Jones? LMFAO. His extremism goes without saying. Really!

Sirota: Do you think if a muslim bombed boston the repubs will force an escalation in the phoney 'war on terror'? And if it ain't a muslim, will it beeasier to declare the phoney 'war on terror' over, and repeal the AUMF?

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

anti " ILLEGAL" immigrant. the guys are muslims.

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I think they were legal, but I didn't hear they were Muslims.

Do you think neo cons will force an escalation in the phoney 'war on terror'?

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

if you didnt hear that they are muslim, you have selective hearing.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I'm just not listening to the news so much today.

I have heard they were Muslim, but I haven't heard conclusively they committed the crime in the name of Islam.

Do you think neo cons will force an escalation in the phoney 'war on terror'?

We must declare it over, repeal AUMF, and correct the rights violations we've been subjected to.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

How difficult it must be for you and yours that they're not tea party people. they're muslim. one of them was an obama supporter in the 2012 election.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

LOL. So?

[-] 2 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

people murdered legs blown off, , terrorism , done by muslims . in liberal boston. in the usa.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

no need to use the muslims,......they're doing fine instilling fear without your help. boldface type,...how impressive, you really must be pissed this wasnt done by a right winger.

the history of xenophobia is replete with the detritus of whole nations and I'll be honest - you fukers really piss me off

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

you're angry because the boston marathon bombing that resulted in murder and dismemberment was not done by a tea party type .

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

what did I just say? did I stutter?

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

if you dont know what you said , maybe you should read it again. and no, you did not stutter.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

And how does your suggestion that one of them supported Pres Obama matter?

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

the left so wanted the terrorists to be on the right,.........turns out they are muslims , and was a supporter of obama. if the terrorsts were right wingers,......the press would and ows would have been taling non stop about that. muslims,.............silence.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

If you say so.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

that's right you fukin punk because the left has no intention of using the Muslim community to instill fear among the public and so secure the public mind in your sic gambit of population control and management

you sick fuks are so far from what it is to be AMERICAN that it is DISGUSTING.

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

no need for the left to use the muslims,......they're doing fine all by themselves instilling fear without help. boldface type,...how impressive, you really must be pissed this wasnt done by a right winger.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I'm hearing quite a lot today about their Muslim/Chechen roots, so I guess you're wrong about the supposed silence huh?

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

the msm and the left in general are truly dissapointed that the terrorists are not right wing tea party people. axelrod, salon, top of the list.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

You don't speak for anyone but yourself.

YOU are the only talkin about the desire to have the bombers be rightwings.

You are just so relieved and extatic that they AREN'T right wing wacko bombers you won't shut up about.

I think YOU knew it could easily be right wing nuts, and YOU were so afraid it might be right wingers you are just beside youself with glee.

A bit obvious, and self centered, You might have lost sight of the fact that people are dead.

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

i never had any doubt as to who perpetrated the bombing. it goes on israel all the time,.......done by muslims. it was the left that wanted the perp(s) to be tea party people,,...........axelrod and salon said as much.

[-] 0 points by shooz (26709) 1 year ago

And then there's the conse(R)vative response to the HUGE piles of bullshit folks on the "right" tell.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/19/1896921/muslim-woman-attacked-after-conservatives-repeat-false-speculation-about-dark-skinned-suspects/

[-] -1 points by shooz (26709) 1 year ago

FLAKESnews certainly didn't spare the bullshit.

In fact, bullshit mountain just got a lot higher.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/20/fox-news-viewers-weigh-in-on-connecticut-massachusetts-and-texas-tragedies/

[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Was that before or after Sirota laid the Boston bombings at the feet of the right? My guess is after....and you quote his backpedalling

http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2013/04/19/that-was-the-week-that-was-3/

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Beats me. Now that we know they were Muslim go you think the neocons will force an escalation in the phoney 'war on terror'?

[-] -2 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Hard for me to guess how Obama will ensure this crisis doesn't go to waste

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Well if you come up with something, I'd be interested to hear.

Now that we know they were Muslim go you think the neocons will force an escalation in the phoney 'war on terror'?

[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Again, hard for me to guess how Obama will ensure this crisis doesn't go to waste.

I see you've asked this question at least a half dozen times in this thread.....what do YOU think?

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 12 months ago

I think of course they will try to escalate the phoney war on terror. They squeal like stuck pigs if we delay using the word "terrorist" they want the kid held as an enemy combatant.

Every time we suggest "Al Qaeda is decimated" they start whining about how the threat is worse than before 9/11!

So definitely the neocons will try! They've already been out in full force to push this interrogation towards a wartime like process.

I saw one Boston congressperson state "it is absolutely wrong to withhold reading Miranda rights"

So we the people must must support any pol who actually stands up for freedom & liberty, and pressure those that would fear/war monger in a despicable effort to expand the phoney war on terror.

We the people must agitate ALL pols to repeal AUMF, & all resulting rights violation laws that the people have been subjected to.!

That wasn't hard. No need to bash one particular politician, The issues are greater, even greater than the parties which I also did not need to bash.

War mongers always seek to escalate these type of tragedies, why is so difficult for you to be honest, & why is it all about Obama for you.? Kinda discounts your opinion when your goal is obviously only to bash one particular politician.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I don't get it, that ppl who claim to disbelieve the MSM, and the admin, are taking their word once again on this bombing incident.

Trial by media, and that's good enough for everyone?

Just being on this forum is enough to have you all locked up for dissidence. No charges, and no evidence required. And you're siding with information given out by your erstwhile jailers?

Within minutes of the blasts, the perps had been identified?

Really? And you bought that line?

[-] 1 points by gsw (2727) 1 year ago

on tv, the gun battles and police chases, over several days, we witnessed quite a bit of the running gun battles on tv, and on news channels.

It took a couple days to identify perps.

haven't seen anything too unbelievable in this, people have been focused on it.

Do you have other theory?

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

On the MSM tv, you saw exactly what they wanted you to see.

There's a set of photos of two agents carrying backpacks, and then they are seen running from the bomb site without their backpacks. Seen those?

Ever heard the term, casus belli? The nation was convinced that going into Iraq to "liberate" the Iraqis from that evil tyrant with the WMD's was the correct course of action the govt had to take. How did that all work out for ya?

[-] 3 points by gsw (2727) 1 year ago

Coincidentally I've been reading chomsky's Understanding Power, first chapter on propoganda.

I haven't seen the photos you imply are in existence.

I was against Iraq, as we're most citizens I know

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Australians were against Iraq as well, but it seems that democracy is a cute descriptor that applies to niether your nation, nor mine.

On the propaganda theme, the first casualty in any war is the truth, and be aware, this might only be a class war, but a war it most certainly is. You probably realise that we aren't winning the battle at this point in time.

But we have the numbers, and we have the time. I'm just waiting for the pandemics to start, and the water supply to become poisoned with more than just flouride.

I consider those photos of the agents to be no more, nor less, convincing than our suspects' photos. They were wearing coats? Had backpacks? Looked smug? I'd best remember those three things when next I head to the airport.

[-] -2 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

It's 03:30 here and I am starting to wind down. I just saw on another site that Glenn Beck has given Obama til Monday to come clean about that Saudi that was supposed to be deported. That should be interesting,. I can't imagine making the claims he made with nothing to back it up, but you never know. Could be some sort of publicity stunt.

Yes, conspiracy theory has become an insult to throw at anyone that is not buying your bull;.

Glenn's msg if you are interested

http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3..._ptKjAcsQM&s=1

[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

In reply to your comment below about Infowars. My favorite conspiracy (or should I say investigative blogger?) says Alex is a govt tool. He mixes some truth with fiction and comes off like a jerk to both misdirect and cast anyone that questions the party line as a nut. My guy (willyloman wordpress) also says that Anonymous is the NSA. LOL I make myself crazy reading all sides of stories!

[-] 1 points by gsw (2727) 1 year ago

I never saw that site, infowars till today, which that LT Colonel referenced, too dark for me, and won't have need to revisit neither site, too much unproved conspiracy.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Yeah, I get that vibe watching that alex tool.

Someone is cranking his dials.

On anonymous, I've been a bit suss for a while. Hacking into China and North Korea's databases to spread propaganda? And blaming it on a faceless org that claims no national nor political status? Very clever, really.

[-] -2 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

dang, we have run out of replies. Yes, these things are all 'unproved conspiracy' and I certainly don't buy them blindly....however, I do find them thought provoking. It's not like we are getting the truth on the nightly news. In the end, I know I can never find out the truth (and probably don;'t want to) but it provides fodder for an insomniac!

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I'm not keeping you up am I? It's just on sunset here.

The whole "conspiracy theory" meaning has been twisted around, for mine.

A conspiracy is simply a plan by one or more people, designed to either hide the truth, or create a cover for an untruth. It happens all the time. Particularly in political circles. Seems to be par for the course, if anything.

A theory based on some kind of evidence that there is a conspiracy happening, (there's always one, at the least), is not a truther issue, or a tinfoil hat issue. It is a suspicion, based upon some kind of evidence, or "where there's smoke, there's fire" kind of suspicion of misdeeds.

And in these times, with so many corporate dollars buying off our decision-makers, conspiracies will, quite literally, be everywhere.

It's a given that complete tosswads like Alex Jones will be tossed in the mix to give legitimate conspiracy theorists the tinfoil hat theme or meme.

[-] 1 points by gsw (2727) 1 year ago

The thursday night (here, Friday there) gun fight along populated streetswith many housing units, multiple witnesses, many with cameras.

Just reported by citizen witness, the little bro ran over older bro with the suv, as cops were handcuffing, which killed the elder bro. CNN Newsroom 10 pm PT.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I'm a skeptic. Many of the "citizen witnesses" after 9-11 have been exposed for the actors they really are. I want to see this "little bro ran over older bro" for myself.

If this was all a staged play, all kinds of contingency plans would have been worked out in advance.

[-] 2 points by gsw (2727) 1 year ago

Witness said was dragged 20 feet by suv on newscast

"We're trying to get him handcuffed. There's two or three police officers handcuffing him in the street -- the older brother. At the same time, at the last minute -- they obviously have tunnel vision, it's a very, very stressful situation -- one of them yells out, 'Look out!' and here comes the black SUV, the carjacked car, directly at them. They dive out of the way, and he (the younger brother) drives over his brother and drags him a short distance down the street."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/20/us/boston-details/index.html

But smart to keep an open mind and question....I did view Arturo's LT COLONEL And !infowars site, didn't find those believable, though they might believe

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Has anyone considered it was a favor for Putin? Or part of some deal? I read an interesting theory that Russia is still a pro at intel and would have thoroughly investigated Barry before he ran for Prez. The theory says they have blackmail matl since he didn't destroy all the records of his past til he started his run. He would have popped up on the Russians radar after that 04 dnc speach.

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

I didn't believe any of it to begin with. And I doubt I will believe all the stuff they are going to find on their computers, etc. BUT, the fact they engaged the cops Thur nite and allegedly threw a pressure cooker bomb and some pipe bombs does make me wonder. I am assuming there are enough other witnesses to that part of the story.

What still bothers me is the failure to release the supposed pics they have of the younger one leaving a backpack. That REALLY bothers me. You'd think they would have released that with all the other pics on Thur, Must be harder to photoshop or something. I would also like to see some pics after the blast and they are backpackless, tho reports that day said there were lots of backpacks abandoned when every one ran, so that would not be conclusive.

I am not following the story til tptb decide on their final version and then I will probably not really buy it.

BTW, I am not sure why you posed that question to me during my duel with MultiMan about how our govt is gonna make use of this situation? Good ole Rahm famously said that they should never let a good crisis go to waste, in case you missed that downunder.

I should add if they are indeed patsies, it's pretty scary to think how they got them to do the shit they did Thurs/Fri

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I don't do tv at all.

Sorry if I took your eye off the ball in your game with multi-man.

Every cloud has a silver lining, and I guess the CISPA law got through on the back of this military action within suburbia.

Hurling a packed six litre pressure cooker any further than ten feet would be something I'd like to personally see. As for the pipe bombs, one tale I've perused on this topic is that these lads were in on a planned attack, not realising that they'd be eventually framed and used as patsies. Perhaps when they realised their predicament, they got rather irate. Wouldn't you?

It's all conjecture, at this stage. I'd still like to hear some more info about that massive explosion at the fertiliser factory in Texas, but that seems to be on the back burner, news-wise.

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Yes, it knocked several items away from the public eye. I think CISPA just passed the House, the democratic controlled senate should be able to stop it. They are spinning TX as an OSHA nightmare. It also knocked the 5th wk of the trial of abortion dr that ran a racist house of horrors in Philly off the radar too. It seemed that on the day of the bombing the state run media (cbs,abc,nbc,) might finally have been shamed over the wknd into covering it. It's especially embarrassing for Barry since as an IL senator he 2 or 3 times voted against a law that would have provided aid to babies that survived a late term abortion. Tho illegal it apparently happens more than we are being (mis) led to believe. Most of the people I know haven't even heard about it. It should be sparking a debate that liberals do not want to have. Plus, it's got blood and mistreatment of poor women to boot.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Lots of issues there for sure.

Still no mention of the twelve tiny children killed in an airstrike in Afghanistan on the seventh of this month. It would appear that American children are fifty times more important and news-worthy than children from other nations.

[-] -2 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

I know. Between the children we are killing overseas and the infanticide happening here, I can puke everytime Obama says gutting the 2nd amd is 'for the children'. No wonder the world hates us. The endless talking about Newtown by the media and the WH has got to have the rest of the world shaking their heads at us. And sadly, he's making a fool of us for the wrong reasons.

[-] -2 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

You know, I read that they had some bomb drill thing that very morning,. Maybe the bros thought they were participating in a drill and were duped into it that way.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

The same thing happened on 9-11, which the VP was controlling, and NORAD was stood down on his orders.

The same thing happened in London on 7-7, and a private film-maker deconstructed all the "evidence" and uploaded it to u-toob. He was charged with treason, and after the jury watched his video, he was released without charge.

Video evidence is pretty easy to dodge to suit an agenda. That 7-7 stuff, people were inserted into footage, rather convincingly. Only freeze-framing and lots of patience reveals the ruse.

[-] -1 points by Margey (-33) 1 year ago

Who cares? Your rationalizations are shit.

So, the verdict is: Pink-Olive Chechen Muslim Tea Party with NRA tendencies???

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

you must work for the msm

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Are they Muslim? Haven't heard that yet.

Do you think if a Muslim bombed boston the repubs will force an escalation in the phoney 'war on terror'? And if it ain't a Muslim, will it be easier to declare the phoney 'war on terror' over, and repeal the AUMF?

[-] -1 points by Margey (-33) 1 year ago

Well, according to the Tsarnaev's own Facebook page claiming he's a Chechan Muslim...

Strike your second paragraph.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Why should I strike the last para.

Will this make it more difficult to declare the phoney war on terror over, and repeal AUMF?

[-] -1 points by Margey (-33) 1 year ago

Cuz what does this have to do with Republicans? Last I remember, Democrat ObaMAO was bombing the crap outta MUSLIM Libya.

Suggest you look at little more critical at YOUR SIDE, since you've quite obviously declared a side in your 50000 idiot posts on these forums. How very "inclusive" of you, jackass.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

The party isn't real relevant.

Do you think if a muslim bombed boston, there will be an escalation in the phoney 'war on terror'? And if it ain't a muslim, will it be easier to declare the phoney 'war on terror' over, and repeal the AUMF?

[-] -1 points by Margey (-33) 1 year ago

If it isn't relevant, then why do you keep mentioning party in your posts? The war on terror isn't phoney. The only phoniness is your political correctness because you don't want anyone's feeling hurt.

They're mooslim, so that's been covered.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

The war on terror IS absolutely phoney, designed to perpetrate otherwise illegal military acts, and to abridge the rights of American citizens.

How can you have a war against a tactic?.

How about a war against carpet bombing.?

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

What would you say all of these people have in common?

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

They're in your comment.

But non are using the bombing to further their racist agenda like Steve King.

His extremism is like few others. Here's another bit.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/27/hey-steve-king-in-the-name-of-christ-lay-off-malia-and-sasha.html

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

why is king a racist? yes i read the link,....why is king a racist?

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Probably the way he was raised, and usually related to an underlying insecurity and fear.

But that is for his psychologist (a team from Austria would berequired) to answer not us.

We only need to acknowledge that he is.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

please give specific instances.

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

As I said his psychologists are best prepared to give specific instances of his racist upbringing.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

HIS psychologists? there aren't any .you have no argument.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

There aren't any what?

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

king has no psychologists. what makes king a racist? commenting the the 2 vacations ( paid for by taxpayers) that the obama offspring went on in one week? that has nothing to with race,..cant you eve get beyond your agenda?..............it about spending . white house tours shut down but the daughters go on 2 vacations in one week.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I know which order I labeled that low life racist Steve King I just wasn't sure which one you were questioning.

And you must know that a rant is not characterized by short singled comments/responses right?

Anyway, racist Steve King:

Heres one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/steve-king-racism

How is that?

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

the huffpo? very funny site.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Which label? Racist or low life?

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

you started off with " racist". please give specific examples. if you wont/dont , you're just off on one of your rants, you're just blowing smoke.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

How do you know he ain't a racist? Did you talk to his Dr's? Cause their not allowed to say.

And however you and that racist fuck King qualifies the criticism of the kids vacation, it is a low life, low class, poor form, bad karma thing to do.!

He is a low life piece of shit to do so, and anyone who defends him can join in that assessment.

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

because he hasnt done or said anything that would give credence to that label.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I disagree. I believe King does have psychologists, and I'm sure they would be working feverishly on your question as to what makes him the racist we all acknowledge he is.

And Kings criticism of the kids just makes him a lowlife motherfucker. Right?

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 1 year ago

he wasnt criticizing the kids,.he was criticizing the vacation ( paid for by taxpayers) that thier parents sent them on,............2 different locations in one week , while somehow there is not enough money to have the white house open for tours. king isnt a racist except in your wildly off base imagination.

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

"the racist we all acknowledge he is"

WE? You are so setting yourself up when you say "we".

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Oh yeah very funny, and excellent honest reporting. Do you question the story? What about the story do you question?

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Whew. What a relief to learn they aren't all jumping on a tragedy to spread their crap. Not like that one guy is doing.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

That "one guy" that you are providing cover for is also the only one in power trying to hurt (non white) immigrants.

So the others may be wrong but they ain't in power, & ain't trying to delay immigration reform.

NEXT!

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

No cover, they are all a-holes, your guy included. Throw in Michael Moore and his twitter. This is about decency, not protecting immigration reform

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Tea party stupidity on Bpston Bombing

Heres a non politician (but political) asshole that sorta (but not much) compares to your examples.

http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17919-tea-party-nation-s-toxic-response-to-the-boston-marathon-bombing

What the fuck is wrong with these republicans.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

My original comment was about a despicable republican congressman whose racism has motivated him to stoop so low he would attempt to exploit the tragic Boston bombing to hurt immigrants.

No person you offered up to distract from that rises to that level of someone in power, exploiting tragedy to hurt another race.

None, You are simply trying to cover for the racist republican piece of shit with unrelated distractions.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

"setting myself up"? how so?

[-] 1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

In this case WE is inclusionman, VQ, Wsmith, etc..." and however many other id's you have. You need a new one, called "Legion"

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Please. Your like a fuckin 12 year old. I use only 1 ID. . Stick to the honest facts, of the issue. Resorting to unfounded personal attacks simply betray the weakness of your position.

[-] 1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Are "we" all in agreement on this? Hope so, since "we" are family. But don't forget that "we" are not gonna take it and "we" will rock you, and, in the end, "we" are the champions.

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

But YOU are a child without enough brains, or maturity to discuss the important issues that confront the 99%.

LOL

[-] 2 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

"We" all support you, Multiple Man!

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

If you watch closely, you'll see him creating arguments with himself.

Fascinating subject matter.

[-] -2 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

He he...MultiMan, Good One!!!

[-] -2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Time for your nap, mommy is calling little boy

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

White House official said, "Any event with multiple explosive devices — as this appears to be — is clearly an act of terror, and will be approached as an act of terror,"

are non-terror massacres approached differently ?

as long as the government can keep their "secrets" our of terrorist and the public hands

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

are you advertising hedge funds?

[-] 0 points by jeremylin56 (23) 1 year ago

Clearly. That's why a headline article reads "Dump Your Hedge Funds and Buy This Stock

I'd say they're doing the opposite.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago
[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 1 year ago

I'm looking at the number of threads that were devoted to this topic and the time that they were posted. Not as many as some other topics but enough to really tick me off.

It is mind blowing how quick that it was politicized. You're a fucking sociopath.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

the news is covering the details non-stop

Afghan children 'killed by Nato air strike in Shigal'

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (21783) 1 year ago

No, you couldn't wait to break out the Alex Jones. You saw a shot and you took it.

You talk a lot about humanity, people, the devastation of war but you don't really give a shit.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

don't know alex jones but I appreciate the accusation ?

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (21783) 1 year ago

Bullshit. You can bullshit some of the people some of the time. But, not all of the people all of the time.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

Now you're attacking Matt? You're attacking Matt???

Matt has done nothing - absolutely NOTHING but advocate for PEACE on this forum! You are the sneakiest little closet TROLL we have here! Take that little high powered degree, and all of your competitive 1% wananabee crap and shove it right up your ass GF!

You are the lowest of the low, just a contemptable little douchbag!

Of all the people I have encountered here you are the most sick!

You got NO standing here AT ALL after going after Matt - NONE!

Just FUCK YOURSELF GF!!!!

[-] 2 points by friescokeandaburger (2) 1 year ago

GF suffers from chronic PMS syndrome. It's not her fault. She's constantly angry at the world, and likes to come here to vent and call people names she learned in primary school.

Anyhow, strange to see the Twinkle Team fighting amongst each other.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

GF ain't part of "the twinkle team." (In other words people aligned with this movement). She is the very most clever of the opposition. Her bag is Psychological Intimidation, and she can go Fuck Herself.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (21783) 1 year ago

No, you can go fuck yourself.

Nope. Wait. Guess your heads so far up your ass that you already have fucked yourself.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

and you suffer from a diarrhetic epiphany

which means when that lightbulb goes off in your head? It will soon be time to wipe . . .

you shitbag

[-] 1 points by shooz (26709) 1 year ago

What's a twinkle team??

Are you making up meme's?

If so why did you come here, just to do that?

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (21783) 1 year ago

Anytime your ready, douchebag. Or you can run and hide----like you do. I have come to expect that from the cockroaches.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (21783) 1 year ago

Well, if it isn't the number one cockroach GypsyKing/Ancient Mariner. It figures that your trolling ass would pop right up. keep talking you lying fucking douchebag. You are the same piece of slimeball shit as you have always been. I'm just glad it's finally out in the open. You vile little multiple ID fuck.

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

can we get eyes on in here? RwOrn insists he can't post, that his comments are being removed - if that is so can we get arbitration to review this process? Is it automatic? If so, do his comments merit removal?

If he has something to say, some new facts to present, please, by all means . . .

if he simply has nothing but more deflection, denial, and ad hominem, well, just never mind . . .

[-] -2 points by RwOrn (-290) from Berkeley, CA 1 year ago

muslim terrorist attcks.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

You sound like a terrified repelican - afraid one of the flock stepped off the reservation?

I don't blame ya - here's a short list, 50% of the violence and the majority of the victims may be laid to rest at the feet of right wing conservative paranoia and ranting

then there are the assassinations - and a few mass murderers, should I compile another list?

It's likely homegrown - and if you want the history which demonstrates that probability I'll go get it. It's out there. From Kopp the abortion doctor assassin to a variety of other right wing extremists.

[-] -1 points by odinson (-10) 1 year ago

This is coming from someone who is clearly not dealing with a full deck and is most likely a paranoid,manic depressive,bi-polar,suicidal Obsessive–compulsive ranting about the hoax of "Climate Change".

Everyone here knows you're a whack job,but then that's why you seem to fit so well with the rest of the Occutards.

The Left is well stocked with these kind of murderous thugs. They even get elected to some of the highest offices in the country.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Everyone here knows you're a whack job,

really? I'm a whack job . . . . and here you are . . . tryin' to piss me off

Shall we poll the audience to see who they think is crazier?

WAIT! Never mind.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Would you be able to see who said what in the poll? I guarantee that would make a difference in the results.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

why would I care to see precisely who thinks I'm a nut and who does not? I know who I am.

Who the fuk are you?

n.o.b.o.d.y.

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

actually it's U.N.C.L.E., but shhhhhhhh

[-] -3 points by odinson (-10) 1 year ago

You talk shit and make asinine allegations just like the rest of the maniac Left on MSLSD. Thought I'd give you taste of some of the shit your shoveling. Nobody knows who is responsible for this bombing but don't let that stop you from making asshole allegations. Don't let reality influence your Leftist rants.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

nervous, hc?

I mean . . . odinson?

I didn't make any allegations - I said the probability is. Has al Qaeda made any claims of responsibility? Because last I had heard they had not. That usually means they didn't do it.

They aren't shy about that sort of thing.

Unlike the right wing of the American political spectrum who feel tremendous shame when one of their members acts out the rhetoric so prevalent among the dark corners of the right wing blogosphere.

Some times I echo that shit just to freak you fukers out - and why?

cuz you know . . .

the worm is gonna turn

it's inevitable.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

That aint me dude.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I don't really care if it is or not. I'm going to lump all of you into the same little box in my mind, put the lid on it, tape it up tight, and park that box next to my truck exhaust as I warm up the engine.

Then I'm gonna walk away for a bit - just because I can

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Thats nice. Do you use that truck for work, or are you just needlessly polluting the air?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

just the air in your box

[-] 2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

So you are one of those guys with a truck that only has it because they like trucks? I love those guys.

[+] -4 points by odinson (-10) 1 year ago

Hmmm,sounds more like deflection. You do understand the history of Bill Ayers,Dorn and how the Left (meaning you) embrace and revere people who bomb,protest,destroy for their ideology. This bombing should prove to inspire you I'm sure and soon you'll be singing the praise of whomever perpetrated this act of terrorism.

The Left always sides with enemies of America as Obama your Messiah has demonstrated so well. These are just the facts,something you obviously don't have much need for.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

You won't see me praising this act of violence. You won't see me praising this act of violence because it will serve only the interests of the elite at the expense - paid in blood - by the innocent.

What are those interests?

Here's one:

While I haven't researched Ayers history, I have heard some of the allegations, and I would bet that he has already served his time for whatever he did. Since it is history, it might be interesting, other than that, I don't much care, beyond noting that it does indeed wind you fukers up.

I am a sick bastard, no doubt, and I don't deny it. If someone shoots boner I'm not gonna cry. There are at least a hundred others just like him. I would be quite happy to kill them all - in a very bloody and extremely heinous manner. One by One. Given my circumstances I couldn't afford such a . . . . campaign . . . . much less have any realistic hope of taking it anywhere.

I am - I'm a sick fuker. I do admit it.

I'm a product of my environment.

I wasn't always like this.

[-] -1 points by odinson (-10) 1 year ago

"whatever he did"?? Get up to speed Zenboy.

I'm sorry for assuming you were informed and contemporary.

Perhaps I should discount your opinions as merely an uneducated and propagandized low information voter. After all you do believe in "Climate Change" as even some of the staunch supporters are now running out of hot air and doubting the "science" as the CO2 increases and temps decrease......the bottom is falling out of the Hoax of MMGW.

I appologise for assuming you mean malice when you most probably are just speaking from ignorance.

Just wait for the truth before you jump on the "blame" train.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Another Global Warming Denier

thanks - now we know where to put you. In with that minority of fools who see the ice melting and just don't know what it means

As for the events of yesterday, I gave my estimate based on the facts I had found - and presented my estimate as just that. One subject to revision on the basis of new information.

Has al Qaeda claimed responsibility?

Is Patriots Day not a day traditionally reserved for . . . home grown right wing violence?

Is there any fact or facts you can present as of right now, that should cause me to revise my estimate?

If you have any you are tight lipped about them. All you have is a diversion to another topic, and attacks on the messenger. I don't mind. It is revealing.

Your stomach - it's tense and queasy. I know. I know.

Just wait till they catch these bastards.

You know they will.

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[-] -1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

well you know what they say - you hear what you want to hear - and I'm not hearing any new facts - so must be you concede:

  • Has al Qaeda claimed responsibility? - - - No

  • Is Patriots Day not a day traditionally reserved for . . . home grown right wing violence? - - - Yes

Since it is apparent you concede these two points - in the absence of evidence that refutes them you have no choice - and since you leave that issue and turn to the question of denial . . . .

What was your point again?

O

Right.

You are in denial.

I get it. Get over it - or don't. I don't much care.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

as long as the government can keep their "secrets" our of terrorist hands

[-] 0 points by shooz (26709) 1 year ago

Says who??

Exxon?

BP?

Koch Industries??

Big whoop.

You must like it when they piss on you.

[-] 0 points by shooz (26709) 1 year ago

Such a wonderfully fact free comment.

FLAKESnews viewer?

You definitely have an anal fixation too.

Have you considered professional help?

You must certainly be responsible enough to afford it. "Right"?

[-] -1 points by shooz (26709) 1 year ago

You do of course understand, that you are completely full of shit??

Who is your master, puppet?

[-] 2 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Wait one sec. Let me go get some popcorn.

[-] -1 points by shooz (26709) 1 year ago

Just open up your skull.

I can wait.

http://www.one.org/us/

[-] -1 points by RwOrn (-290) from Berkeley, CA 1 year ago

do you believe the govt was responsible for 9/11?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

of course not - that's just plain silly

  • it was right wing religious fumdamentalists
[+] -4 points by RwOrn (-290) from Berkeley, CA 1 year ago

muslims

[-] 7 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

right wing religious fumdamentalists I said. Which of course, may be found among any major religion worldwide. They make such wonderful tools. Obedient, strict adherence to dogma, relieved of any burden requiring analytical thought and the only responsibility - to do what one is told.

That they were muslims in that incident is certainly no indication that they must be muslims now and in fact the history of violence of this scale in the U.S. bears that out - further, the evidence in this case is beginning to point elsewhere.

that is the hallmark of the minions of rabid, right wing, fanatical fundamentalists who in one way or the other have been zombified by conservative Christendom subservient to the repelican choir of ravens who hover about the carcass of Koch suckers bleeding this nation dry.

I'm sorry . . . do you find that upsetting?

Perhaps you should simply find some other clique.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

RwOrn: -- :vaprosvyeh

Do you have something you wish to share? Don't send me a pm - I don't give a shit about the history of pressure cookers. I've lived in one.

If you have something to say, say it. Don't be shy . . .

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[-] 1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Wasn't the Unabomber a Liberal? They found a copy of Al Gore's book in his cabin.

[-] 3 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Loughner and James Holmes campaigned for Obama and Lanza was a registered Dem. All the mass shooterz this yr were leftists.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago
[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

sad to say - but I am afraid you are exactly correct

do you remember "The Prime of Miss Jean Brody" ?
"Give me a girl at an impressionable age, and she is mine for life!"

the similarities between the WORLD'S fundamentalists are TERRIFYING

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[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Fire Fox Anti muslim hater

http://site.pfaw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ErikRush&autologin=true

Please sign & spread

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[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

You are asking the wrong guy. He believes the govt is trying to make him miss a left turn.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I don'T believe for a minute that the government gives a shit one way or the other whether I turn right, left, or not at all.

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

BTW, my team wanted me to ask you if you wouldn't mind driving at the speed limit. That blue pickup they use doesn't get the best gas mileage and with the sequester and all...you understand. Your errands yesterday alone cost me an hour of paperwork. Thanks for your cooperation.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

What is it like to wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and know deep in your bones, what a lyin, deceitful, slimey piece of scum you really are? And what do you get out of it?

I mean, It's not like you are somebody

YOu are just another right wing hack so afraid on the basis of all that propaganda spewing from THE PARTY that you feel compelled to spend all your time here.

And what - tell such grandiose lies?

You don't even rate half as high as mediocre

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

....but my mom says I'm cool.

On a personal note, I was going through the garbage you left at the sandwich shop and there was an awful lot of mayo on that wrapper. You should keep an eye on your cholesterol.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

too bad for you, wrong wrapper you got your hands dirty for nothing - or should I say, you would have - if you had the sack to step out of your elaborate fantasy for a minute or two - but never mind.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Wrong wrapper? I am so gonna chew out Tiger Squad the next time they check in.

You should update your anti-virus and Adobe Flash. Just saying.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20529) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

and you should try and get a life, hc, cuz whatever you are doin now, it just ain't workin