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Forum Post: What Does Organize - Unite - Resist mean to me

Posted 7 years ago on Nov. 11, 2016, 2:11 p.m. EST by stoothman (18) from Des Moines, IA
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Organize

Greed, envy, fear, hate, the competition has to stop When you see someone down, now's the time to pick them up Set our differences aside and never look back, again Right now if you don't know the person standing next to you Turn to them extend your hand, shake their hand, make a new friend This is our family, this is our community! - 911 for peace – Anti-Flag

There was a beautiful rally last night to resist the coming storm. Unfortunately, I found out about it too late to participate. But in the spirit of these lyrics, I reached out to the organizer and made a new friend and ally. We all need to do more of this. The more of us there are, the harder it will be to break us. We must commit to reaching out to our community, to social networks, to neighbors.

For far too long ordinary people have felt excluded from power. We must reach out to them and show them the power that they have. If this election showed anything, it is that people are desperate. We can change that. As activists, we must help them learn to try out their voice. We pick everyone up and march forward together out of the darkness and into the new dawn.

Unite

These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. – American Crisis – Thomas Paine

For far too long the American Left has suffered from a rotting disease I call balkanization. Blinded by an unwavering ideological purity, groups dismiss any one else that does not believe exactly like they. It leads to groups not coordinating and working together. And since they do not work together, none ever achieve a critical mass necessary to affect real and lasting change.

Now is a time of crisis and the world has changed seemly overnight. No longer can we allow ourselves to be divided by our own short sightedness. We can no longer allow our differences to keep us apart. The atheist and religious person must stand arm in arm. The union worker and the LGBT rights activist must raise their voices together. The "Black Lives Matter" activist and the gender equality activist must march together. The anarchist and the political party activist must resist together. Only together will we make real change and ensure something like Trump never happens again. And from this darkest of times, we can bring a new dawn.

Resist

We are committed to the proposition that principles of morality and considerations for our own security will never permit us to acquiesce in a peace dictated by aggressors and sponsored by appeasers. We know that enduring peace cannot be bought at the cost of other people's freedom. - State of the Union Address (January 6, 1941) - Franklin D. Roosevelt

The new American Crisis presents a unique challenge and an unprecedented opportunity for those who believe in peace, justice, and equality. For 50 years, the playbook of the American Left revolved around direct action, like protests and rallies. And in the meantime, we have largely abdicated our direct role in politics. But that can no longer be the case. We must resist on every front, from the streets to the union hall to the political party meeting to the halls of power. We must be as vigorous in finding candidates for office that reflect our values, as we are in organizing our resistance in the streets.

Make no mistake, these dark times call for total "political warfare". It is only by organizing and uniting and taking back the levers of power from the corporations and their political puppets, that we can affect long lasting change in this country. And while we fight them in politics, we must resist them in the streets with rallies and direct actions. We must make sure the people most vulnerable to the new regime are protected by us as we stand together shielding them with hearts, minds, and bodies. We will beat back the darkness and emerge victorious in a new dawn.

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[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

A very well written, informed & to be honest, much needed - shot in the arm post in the end of year darkness before dawn! Many Thanx and in compliment - re. where much of our current shit started:

Educate; Agitate; Organize!

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 7 years ago

What are you really rallyling against?

Who do you think are organizing these protests?

Did you ever think it might be the evil oligarchy who was ready to start war with Russia; start world war III, who have been making wars in the MiddleEast, who have been ruining the economy of the world for all regular people, whose plans for world domination have just been shattered by a simple flim flam man.

Are you so agianst that flim flam man who just took the world away from utter destruction? ...just 'cause he said some things that were misconstrued and twisted by a malicious media?

What are you rallying for? Are you going to rally for the evil oligarchy who did not get their Hag into the White House and is now pissed thus knowing not what else to do is ready to trash America like they trashed the Middle East?

These rallies are a set up! Watch for the false flag, and then the crud will really start to fly; that is if people don't start seeing through this bull smoke being conjured up by the 1% psycho' oligarchs.

Come on. Think a little bit. please.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 7 years ago

Very nice post. Thanks, Stoothman.

We must join together with everyone and anyone that is willing to fight against racism, sexism, xenophobia, misogyny, economic tyranny, corporatism, neoliberalism, etc., the list goes on.

We absolutely must face all of these things wherever and whenever we encounter them. Don't be shy to say "I'm a democratic socialist." "I'm an atheist." "I believe in gay rights." "I think black lives matter." "I believe we need a basic income to meet up with the new realities of globalism and technology." "I'm for universal healthcare and free education." "I believe workers rights should be restored."

We need to get in the faces of those who want to erode our rights. Period.

Do not shy away from those who will ridicule you. Face them. Be ready for them.

Pandora's box of ugly hatred has been unleashed on America. Let's make the most of it. We now have middle school children chanting. "White Power. White Power." Maybe we can finally fight the devil if it is right there in front of us. Never give up! Solidarity!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

''The Issue Is Not Trump, It's Us'', by John Pilger:

OUCH!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 7 years ago

Truth. Trump is just a symptom of a much bigger problem. NEOLIBERALISM and it's good friend, CAPITALISM. They must go down together.

They go down, people like Trump go down. We need an economy and a social structure and ideologies that work for all of us, not just the 1% greedy creeps.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

''Councilmember Sawant's Socialist Response to Trump (FULL)'':

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 7 years ago

"Neoliberalism, The Zombie Doctrine at the Root of all our Problems"

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/15/neoliberalism-zombie-doctrine-root-all-our-problems

"Perhaps the most dangerous impact of neoliberalism is not the economic crises it has caused, but the political crisis. As the domain of the state is reduced, our ability to change the course of our lives through voting also contracts. Instead, neoliberal theory asserts, people can exercise choice through spending. But some have more to spend than others: in the great consumer or shareholder democracy, votes are not equally distributed. The result is a disempowerment of the poor and middle. As parties of the right and former left adopt similar neoliberal policies, disempowerment turns to disenfranchisement. Large numbers of people have been shed from politics."

Hence, the importance of Kshama Sawant's response to Trump's speech and to the real root of the problem, the capitalism that is embedded in neoliberalism.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 6 years ago

UK Election - Vote Labour - Monbiot piece

"If ever there was a time to vote Labour, it is now" by George Monbiot

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/25/vote-labour-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may

"The choice today is between brutal efficiency in pursuit of a disastrous agenda, and gentle inefficiency in pursuit of a better world. I know which I favour."

"The choice before us is as follows: a party that, through strong leadership and iron discipline, allows three million children to go hungry while hedge fund bosses stash their money in the Caribbean and a party that hopes, however untidily, to make this a kinder, more equal, more inclusive nation. I will vote Labour on 8 June, and I will not hold my nose. I urge you to do the same."

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

''Neoliberalism's Disaster Capitalism in USA/UK, has been given a turbo boost by 08 Banking Crisis but GOP & Tories don't give a fk!'' from here, where others truth are expressed:

Further to your excellent link above, by the ever readable George Monbiot:

fiat lux et fiat justitia, ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 6 years ago

"How Do We Get Out of This Mess?" A must read, uplifiting, article by George Monbiot on how we can overcome the nightmare of neoliberalism

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/sep/09/george-monbiot-how-de-we-get-out-of-this-mess

This article brought tears to my eyes, because it gave me hope.....

"Those who want a kinder politics know we have, in theory at least, the numbers on our side. Most people are socially minded, empathetic and altruistic. Most people would prefer to live in a world in which everyone is treated with respect and decency, and in which we do not squander either our own lives or the natural gifts on which we and the rest of the living world depend. But a small handful, using lies and distractions and confusion, stifle this latent desire for change.

We know that if we can mobilise such silent majorities, there is nothing this small minority can do to stop us. But because we have failed to understand what is possible, and above all failed to replace our tired political stories with a compelling narrative of transformation and restoration, we have failed to realise this potential. As we rekindle our imagination, we discover our power to act. And that is the point at which we become unstoppable.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

''Jeremy Corbyn’s Speech to Labour Conference'' .. in UK:

That Guardian link is excellent and re.''hope'' bw , watch above!

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 6 years ago

The Labour Manifesto. A thing of beauty:

https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/

In summary: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-39933116

If Jeremy Corbyn can become prime minister of the UK we can begin to see the return of humanity. And, just maybe it would be contagious and other nation's, including the USA, could follow. That is my hope. That is one way we may actually get out of this mess. Keep fighting.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

Jeremy Corbyn is and will continue to be an absolute inspiration to all Left and Progressive elements in politics worldwide & please consider ...

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 6 years ago

"Ohh, Jer-e-my Cor-byn." For those who haven't heard the chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_Yrwb4rh8

This man can change the world.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

And in regard to that manipulative, mendacious, mean-minded monster - Mrs. Mayhem ... the mental midget doesn't fool the kids, who per your video love Jeremy Corbyn and can see through her bullshit:

verum ex absurdo...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 6 years ago

Jeremy Corbyn. Some recent tweets that I thought were very profound:

"We must end impunity for corporations that violate human rights or wreck our environment. The next Labour government will work to create a legally binding treaty to regulate global corporations, their subsidiaries and suppliers under international human rights law."

"We must tackle the growing concentration of unaccountable wealth and power in the hands of a tiny corporate elite, climate change and the refugee crisis, and end the “bomb first, think later” approach to conflict resolution."

"Today, at the United Nations in Geneva, I outlined how, together, we can build a social and economic system with human rights and justice at its core, and work for peace, security and understanding."

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/with_replies

That is the kind of leader the world needs right now.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

"We must end impunity for corporations that violate human rights or wreck our environment. The next Labour government will work to create a legally binding treaty to regulate global corporations, their subsidiaries and suppliers under international human rights law."

"We must tackle the growing concentration of unaccountable wealth and power in the hands of a tiny corporate elite, climate change and the refugee crisis, and end the “bomb first, think later” approach to conflict resolution." Also ...

Jeremy Corbyn is indeed ''the kind of leader the world needs right now.'' In 2022 he'll become UK's PM! I hope that he'll influence that other ''Bernard'' - Sanders, into realizing that US Dems are NOT like the UK Labour Party,ie. with mass popular support & with a good degree of internal democracy! Ergo, 3rd Party!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 6 years ago

Theresa May apologizes for NHS winter crisis, a clear result of failed Tory policies.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-nhs-crisis-winter-apology-patients-cancelled-operations-latest-updates-a8141591.html

Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn declares he's a government in waiting.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyns-2018-new-year-11775543

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

UK's Tory PM Mrs. Mayhem & USA's GOP Psycho-POTUS tRUMP share some very similar ideologies, which denigrates the Public but extols the Private and pushes Profit over People ... because Neoliberal Psycho-Economics of Bankster Ordained Austerity & Privatization, is their modus operandi in their own countries, further compounded by Neocon, NeoColonialism abroad. So - Corbyn can't come soon enuf!

Eg. consider who in society Tory austerity targets: The Weakest! The two child limit on UK child benefit; the bedroom tax that hits disabled people and part-time parents as well as the reductions in UK mobility allowances etc. The list is endless & eugenics is Tory Party philosophy & the same applies in U$A too...

spero meliora...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 5 years ago

Austerity kills.

https://www.salon.com/2015/08/09/austerity_kills_the_sad_sick_truth_about_right_wing_economics_body_count/

“Today many people face the stark reality of severe financial pressures – be it through employment worries, benefit cuts, increased cost of living, or a lethal combination of all three.”

"If austerity were tested like a medication in a clinical trial, it would have been stopped long ago, given its deadly side effects.... One need not be an economic ideologue – we certainly aren’t – to recognize that the price of austerity can be calculated in human lives."

And, "How Austerity Kills":

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/opinion/how-austerity-kills.html

"The correlation between unemployment and suicide has been observed since the 19th century. People looking for work are about twice as likely to end their lives as those who have jobs."

"Countries that slashed health and social protection budgets, like Greece, Italy and Spain, have seen starkly worse health outcomes than nations like Germany, Iceland and Sweden, which maintained their social safety nets and opted for stimulus over austerity."

In the "United States. Initially, the 2009 stimulus package shored up the safety net. But there are warning signs — beyond the higher suicide rate — that health trends are worsening. Prescriptions for antidepressants have soared. Three-quarters of a million people (particularly out-of-work young men) have turned to binge drinking. Over five million Americans lost access to health care in the recession because they lost their jobs (and either could not afford to extend their insurance under the Cobra law or exhausted their eligibility). Preventive medical visits dropped as people delayed medical care and ended up in emergency rooms."

Austerity needs to end all over the world. It's a scourge on humanity, especially since those who dole it out to others do not live under it themselves.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

So ''Austerity needs to end all over the world. It's a scourge on humanity, especially since those who dole it out to others do not live under it themselves.''

Sad Sigh & Then Maximum Indignation!!! The Profit Before People Ethos, Is Psychopathic & Needs To Go!! It's ''Disaster Capitalism" that Naomi Klein described being visited on the Developing World by the IMF and World Bank et al, is now here in US/UK and Europe but this oppression .. just can NOT abide!

spero meliora ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23767) 5 years ago

"Misleading Unemployment Numbers and the Neoliberal Ruse of “Labor Flexibility”

https://truthout.org/articles/misleading-unemployment-numbers-and-the-neoliberal-ruse-of-labor-flexibility/

I've been feeling this is what is going on for quite a while and perhaps it's even worse now.

In addition, wages are eroding due to increasing inflation making the crappy low paying jobs even crappier and lower paying!

Even if Unemployment was actually as low as they say, what good is it if crappy jobs rule the day?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-06-12/u-s-inflation-reaches-six-year-high-at-2-8-video

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/09/news/economy/wage-growth-inflation/index.html

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

"Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it." (Donald Trump on Tuesday, June 16th, 2015 in his presidential announcement speech) & consider:

As your links attest, REAL WAGES (adjusted for inflation) in U$A, have not changed significantly since 1979. People are working 2 & 3 minimum wage jobs & wracking up debt just to survive but tRUMP and US' 0.01% have NO fkn idea how the 99% are living, as they consider mere millionaires as The 1%! + :

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 5 years ago

Wages are falling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/15/for-the-biggest-group-of-american-workers-wages-arent-just-flat-theyre-falling/?utm_term=.96afa2e5a6e0

From the article: "The falling wages promise to exacerbate historic levels of U.S. inequality. "

When even the Washington Post is concerned you know the problem is bigger than the establishment is letting on.

Lower wages means people have less disposable income to buy stuff. Yes, Americans live on debt to make up for that lack of cash, but how long can that continue? It's an unsustainable and cruel model.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

''House candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talks to Glenn Greenwald about the need for Democratic Party reform, her views on immigration and criminal justice reform, her approach to “identity politics,” why she has taken such unusually blunt positions on Israel and Palestine, and the challenges of running against a machine boss politician.

''Her Democratic opponent, Rep. Joseph Crowley, has been in the U.S. House of Representatives since 1999. It has been 14 years since Crowley has faced a primary challenge, thus receiving the Democratic Party nomination automatically every two years since 2004.

''Crowley has become the classic New York machine boss, having obtained both his 1990s seat on the New York City Council and his seat in Congress through a combination of dynastic politics and machine favors. But for the people of the 14th Congressional District that Crowley represents — which covers parts of Queens and the Bronx and is 70 percent nonwhite — it means they have had no Democratic Party alternative in this Democratic safe district for more than a decade.

''All of that changed this year as a result of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, whose primary challenge against Crowley has sparked substantial excitement within her district and, then, media attention throughout the country.

''Can a 28-year-old Democratic Socialist pull of one of the rarest feats in U.S. politics: beating an entrenched incumbent in a Democratic Party primary?'' ... YES SHE CAN & SHE DID!

TY for your link & as U say .. ''Lower wages means people have less disposable income to buy stuff. Yes, Americans live on debt to make up for that lack of cash, but how long can that continue? It's an unsustainable and cruel model." Yes bw & now with Ocasio-Cortez, there's someone who'll speak up!

dum spiro, spero...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23767) 5 years ago

Democratic Socialism in Kansas today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/ocasio-cortez-bernie-sanders.html

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders team up to take on Kansas.

Her platform:

Medicare for All

Fully funded schools and universities

Universal Jobs Guarantee

Housing as a Human Right

Justice System Reform

Immigration System Reform

New Greed Deal to Combat Climate Change

Campaign Finance Reform

An Economy of Peace

http://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-platform-on-the-issues-2018-6

So, yes, actually, she talks about economics all the time and has a degree in economics.

[-] 1 points by DavidJameson (-186) 5 years ago

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[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

See, here comes the justification for why the trillions of dollars of taxcut had to be pushed through to enrich the rich folks before the Medicare/Social Security shit hits the turbofans of trumpery. Mitt Romney would have foreseen the potential consequences and be less reckless. ( This probably riles up people here but even vultures a.k.a. hedge funds play a role in the ecosystem { if China had declassified its data on its Great Famine earlier--but China had no First Amendment of ours nor our Freedom of Information Act, perhaps Zimbabwe/Rhodesia could have avoided the disaster resulting from the heavy-handed economic/ecosystemic interference }; I'm hoping for a pootinium vacuum cleaner for the Levant; let's face it, Russia and China hacked the U.S. successfully--as we in the U.S. have the most poultry in the World, unlike France, which was resistant to the hacking; most people here can probably afford chicken at every meal; although my Dad fulfilled his promise to provide food in the form of chickens galore, I'd long grown wary of making any simpleminded extreme wish akin to that of King Midas come true--so we must pay the price to make one dream come true ) It's much easier to tear things down than to do surgeries or build. Babies do that very well. Geoduck was less destructive than beany Baby by letting things slip to destruction slowly through timidity and neglect.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trustees-warn-medicares-financial-problems-181705087.html

The Retards even had the foresight to put in the automatic expiration of the measly taxcut for the working folks despite the permanent taxcuts for the leisure class!

Yeah, I told y'all so, didn't I? Austerity is coming. I smell turkey, roasted turkey, Benjamin Franklin's favorite "All-American!" birds. Don't worry because the opposition party hasn't been voted in yet to take the blame from the myopians. Breathe away, if only for today. Tailhook scandal is deferred to another day.

Strictly speaking according to the definition of trust funds, the budget deficits will not affect the solvency of Medicare/Social Security. However, they surely will because Medicare/Social Security revenues are invested in U.S. Government securities so how hard-pressed by budget deficits the U.S. Government is affects its ability to pay Medicare/Social Security benefits.

In the olden days, the Government didn't even have printed versions of U.S. Government securities owned by the Social Security trust fund. It was understood to be rather pointless to do that. The trust fund's revenue has already been spent to cover general revenue shortfall. Printing fancy pieces of high-quality paper was just an accounting gimmick.

My young kid figured out how we got colorful pieces of paper by filling in a bank withdrawal slip with some characters and numbers and we exchanged them for goodies. Then our kid took a bank withdrawal slip home, filled it in with astronomical numbers and what appeared to be "Greek? alphabetic chicken scratch," and handed it to us to get goodies. We were very impressed by our kid's smartness and dumbness at the same time!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

With ref. to AUSTERITY - note the following by Prof. Mark Blyth:

Consider, poverty exists not because we can't feed the poor but

because we can NEVER, satisfy the endless avarice of the rich!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Yeah, that's what the UK needs, more regulation. Because they did such as good job before regulating energy and the financial system and Syria. Where is the accountability.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

U know as little about the UK, as U do of "Construction" or "Workers"! Your use of the word "regulation" is particularly revealing though!! Is your ass-hat wearing, RW opinion of UK "regulating energy and the financial system" .. that the privatization of UK's energy generation and distribution AND the actual DE-Regulation of Banking & Fin.Markets has NOT worked?!!! If so - U'd be right - but ironically that is NOT an argument for less regulation .. it is an argument For More Effective And Wide Ranging Regulation!!!

Re."Syria", what's your point here?! That UK joined USA & France & Turkey & Israel & Jordan & Saudi Arabia & Gulf Monarchies & ISIS & Al Qaeda .. in trying to effect regime change & the balkanisation of Syria?!! IF that was your real point - it'd be a Fkn Great Point!!!

US/UK demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy is a fkn shamocracy and sick joke, that constantly reinforces the Military Industrial Complex and Imperial Resource Wars - where "accountability" is a fkn joke & That Is Why We Need A Political Revolution To Reclaim Democracy!!!

D'u think the last 2 older but still very relevant links have any bearing on the taxes that U allegedly pay?

ad iudicium...

[+] -4 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

So the government has lost paper. Yep, my point exactly. I don't trust any of these bureaucrats to run my business. Get them out of my business. Bernie Sanders has never worked a hard day in his life and he is going to tell me how to run my construction business. That's a laugh.

[-] 4 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

Get them out of my business. Bernie Sanders has never worked a hard day in his life and he is going to tell me how to run my construction business.

You, who take from the community for personal gain and deny all accountability for your exploitation are a greater threat to the survival of the human race than all the tyrants and terrorists since the beginning of civilization.

[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

You, who take from the community for personal gain and deny all accountability for your exploitation are a greater threat to the survival of the human race than all the tyrants and terrorists since the beginning of civilization.

Actually - I don't think there is a difference - they are monsters ALL and antithetical to a healthy society and world.

[-] 3 points by howitworks (34) from Tucson, AZ 6 years ago

Actually - I don't think there is a difference - they are monsters ALL and antithetical to a healthy society and world.

Yes, they're all monsters but there are many more busyness parasites and they're less reckoned with than the tyrants and terrorists. Therefore the former are the greater threat.

[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

there are many more busyness parasites and they're less reckoned with than the tyrants and terrorists.

They have been the worst pretty much since the dawn of time. They used to hide behind the curtain better - but now for whatever reason have decided to come out into the open. Yes they run governments, they run the arms business, they run the investment business, they finance as well as inspire & direct the terrorists and tyrants. They always have - it's only now in this day and age that they are becoming visible in their actions to the general population.

[-] 3 points by howitworks (34) from Tucson, AZ 6 years ago

write on! they aren't generally enough recognized for what they are ... YET!!!

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Yeah, the blinders are coming off.

The Manbaby-n-Cheif is (seemingly) trying to do his best (with support from t republicans in office) to completely remove the curtain. 1/3rd of t Manbaby's time in office so far has been spent ON VACATION and worse, all that secret service vacation protection money has gone to his own properties (into his own pocket).

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

what do I take?

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

you confess to being an employer. you take by having others in the community work for you. that is: do your work for you. you take the profit from the work of others. that's stealing. you are a criminal employer thief. your kind are a greater threat to human survival than all the tyrants and terrorists since the original sin of controlling communities for personal gain. i.e. civilization

And yes, I'm fuckin' with you. Idiot!

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

They don't have to work for me. They choose to. Big words from a coward. Show yourself

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

They choose to. Big words from a coward.

where do want to meet? you've let your mouth overload your ass, idiot!

They do your work for you is what I hear, you're a petty tyrant, lazy and a fool!

[-] 4 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

Corner of California and 19th Street in San Francisco. When can you be there?

I need $1000 in travel money. As soon as I cash your check or money order I'll be on my way. Send the $1000 to A. G. Kaiser; c/o General Delivery; Fredericksburg, TX 78624. Let me know through OWS message or tell me when you can come to the Marktplatz in FBurg'

I actually live near Fredericksburg. Your anonymous profile here at OWS indicates that you were projecting when you said I was cowering in hiding. No one actually knows if you've ever been or intend to be near San Francisco in your worthless life. You're just a chickenshit conservative after all.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

where do want to meet?

You know that that is not gonna happen - he (it?) just likes 2 run it's mouth.

[-] -1 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Corner of California and 19th Street in San Francisco. When can you be there?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

They don't have to work for me. They choose to.

Sure they don't as long as there is another employer that has an opening for them.

Big words from a coward. Show yourself

Stupid comment from an idiot right wing shill - I know as well as everyone else knows - that you would never show up to an agreed upon meeting place!

[-] -1 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Why don't you hire them?

I would love nothing better than to meet you .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

what do I take?

I don't know - U volunteering information? or should U face a Judicial Probe Like Drumpf.

[-] -1 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Can't answer. What do I take. I provide a lot of jobs for people so tell me what I take.

[-] 4 points by howitworks (34) from Tucson, AZ 6 years ago

How many hard working members of the community are you extracting profits from to build your wealth? Your business could not exist without a community to do the work but you want us to have no say in what you take from us. American conservatism was born in the ante bellum South. The freedom to exploit people may be a subtle form of slavery but it is abomination non the less!

[+] -5 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Why should you have a say in my business? How are you qualified. The people that I employee are free to go work for someone else or start their own business. Why don't you start a business or why don't they?

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 6 years ago

The minute you determine you need another human being to work for you that is a social contract and everyone in society has a "say" if you can really do it on your own, ie NO employees then i don't care what you do. You might ask "What gives society the right?" Money does. Money has no value unless WE agree that it does, by doing that WE take on a responsibility and a right,. if you are going to use something created by society, ie money, to control the behavior of others then we have a responsibility that the thing we created, ie money, is used responsibility.

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

I don't determine that another human being has to work for me, the human being asks me can they work for me. They don't have to. It is their free will. Society does not agree on the value of money, The value of anything is what is agreed upon by the buyer and the seller. The government nor society can dictate what value money is. Why do you think there is bitcoin. Because people do not trust the US Government. According to your logic if I pay someone in bitcoin, then society has no responsibility.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 6 years ago

It doesn't matter if they "have to" or not simply that they do once you employ others you enter into a social contract and we all have a "say". Money only has value because society says so, how MUCH money is determined by buyer and seller, not really up on your ecominics are you? and bitcoin also has a society that writes the rules and creates the "value" you really don't know how anything works do you? but sure the purpose of bitcoin is to avoid the society controls, go ahead spend your bitcoin i don't care, I do care if you employ others though, then you gotta follow the rules...

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

What, where does it say once you hire somebody that a fat slob who lives in the desert who can't get out of his chair, has a say in my business. When I hire somebody, that is between me and that person. Society has nothing to say about money. Money is a vehicle for transaction and is between the buyer and seller. Where did you go to school, public?

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 6 years ago

look if you can do it on your own fine do it, but if you want to hire somebody to do it for you because your're too fat and lazy to work, then you got to pay a fair wage, and if you don't want to pay a fair wage get your fat lazy ass out there and do it yourself, are you saying if you want to give a 13 year old a 100 bucks to suck your cock society got no say in the matter?

[-] -3 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Now you are getting grotesque, just like you buddies Weinstein, Rose, and Lauer. You have sexual problems. Do it in your own bedroom. Just because you can't get a job don't take it out on the rest of us. Angry and poor is no way to go through life.

[-] 2 points by howitworks (34) from Tucson, AZ 6 years ago

I know that the real inspiration of conservatism to be the preservation of their predatory and parasitic affliction of the majority of human beings. When I consider that conservatives aren't truly human that becomes preying upon and predation of the entire human race.

  • agkaiser's comment was on the mark but too weak for my taste.

Your business couldn't exist without a community to do your work for you and buy the services of your workers. You are the one that's superfluous. You are the parasite ... the owner who takes from the community of human beings and preys upon it. You and all conservatives are abomination. You are a parasitic disease that needs to be eliminated from the gene pool of the planet Earth.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 6 years ago

i think you guys are not being helpful here. we live in a capitalist society. we all must survive somehow and starting your own small business and employing people is a good way to do it. in a prefect world maybe we can all work for employee owned business but this is not a prefect world.

i teach tennis - in the past i have hired people to work for and with me. it is my knowledge that my students want and i am responsible if something goes wrong. i do not think the helpers i hire are being exploited.

we also have a small solar business that we started with our savings. it took years to save the money with which we funded the purchase of machinery. should those who work for us get the same pay as we do??

these are somewhat tricky questions but small grassroots capitalism is not such a bad thing. the corner store of my youth - the local hardware store and shoe repair shop are not exploiting people in any really way - certainly not like walmart.

i think you are doing a disservice to the ideals of occupy if you trash every small family owned business. most of them are hard working people who are solidly middle class - if they are lucky. remember the slogan is 99% - who the fuck knows about the brent man but i am part of the 99%.

[+] -4 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

There would be no community with out my skill set and my work. We would all be without housing.

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

False...this is the biggest lie going today. Stop stealing all our land and we can build our own. Industrial landlording is the most putrid vile form of corruption the world has always known. When a conglomerate of pooled funds or old aristocratic monied classes begins to compete with the citizenry for housing...what we have is Feudalism. The powers that be begin to set laws that favor the landowners that actually prevent the citizenry from ownership of housing or land as well of course those ptb also landlord at over inflated rates far above what you pay your employees you charge in rent. What does a developer or landlord do? Take opportunity away from citizens to be a part of the very society they fund with their labor. It is all wrong. You know it too. You feel it deep down don't you? You aren't working very hard. Somewhere along the line you said yeah it really isn't fair but I'm getting mine. And those immigrants working for developers sucking in asbestos...getting injured with no insurance...those poor people you evict with your power and money. You can't possibly deep down feel you have created a thing. Ownership over something for which you had or now have an unfair advantage...isn't smart or clever nor creative. It is opportunistic at best...it is destructive ...and like a shark biting at any thing you prey on those weaker and broker. You do not create. Stop fooling yourself. You aren't fooling anyone else either by the way...even landlords and developers hate themselves and eachother. It brings nothing lasting and says nothing good about you...I pitty you. Take care of your character for it becomes you.

The slice of American pie was supposed to be a modest single family home with a picket fence and a decent yard. Now we have apartment complexes and condo substations where we reside in our 12 by 12 pods until we return to work as if from stasis to labor all day to pay for the pod. It is a bizarre kind of system. living to work...what is next actual home stasis pods extra fee for air and water?

Someone stole.the American dream...and I'm betting it was a developer. Housing industry expert. Housing industrial complex shark.

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

Well Brent it seems by your response I hit the nail on the head because you did what all personality disordered narcs do and instead of mustering up an intelligent response you attacked...which is probably how you treat your poor tennants and employees when they try implore you for some rational empathy. Control does not represent happiness. And I think if you began to use your skills for something good real and equitable...you would begin to feel whole again. The definitiin of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Try lifting people up instead of standing on their heads. having money and power doesn't mean you are better...it means maybe others didn't get the same chance or perhaps their conscience stopped them from going as far as you have because they were not willing to sacrifice their character as you have. It is the wrong road...but it is never too late to back up.

I'm broke but I'm happy, I'm poor but I'm kind and on my grave I hope it says here lies someone who never hurt someone else to get ahead. I don't want what you have. And I dont want what you want. I can't be happy in a room full of unhappy people. Some people can they thrive on that...but it is because something is very wrong in their psyches.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

The slice of American pie was supposed to be a modest single family home with a picket fence and a decent yard. Now we have apartment complexes and condo substations where we reside in our 12 by 12 pods until we return to work as if from stasis to labor all day to pay for the pod. It is a bizarre kind of system. living to work...what is next actual home stasis pods extra fee for air and water?

I don't know about you - but I pay extra for water. Economics has changed from when I was growing up in grade school. Back then economists were teaching (yes as early as grade school) that no one should pay more than 25% of their income for housing - if they wanted to be able to have a proper budget that allowed savings for times of need or retirement. The Market Place couldn't have that - and so we find ourselves here, where many are paying 3/4s of their income for just a roof over their heads or are living in their car.

GREED must be regulated or Society Fails!

We need to see a movement for affordable housing that takes no more than say 25 to 30% of a single individual's or a married couple's income. & not just in SOME areas (as that leads to ghettos) but in every market place across this country.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

The only people who didn't show up to the revolution Brent was the corporate media

Another valid point - though 2 b absolutely truthful - they did show-up & continue 2 show-up = in support of t status quo = in support of t wealthy few

& face it - in reality even the lowest paid Head in National Media - IS - of t wealthy few - even if they barely make t bottom of t scale.

I go at this a little more on twitter. https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/952567180046094336

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

The only people who didn't show up to the revolution Brent was the corporate media...which is why protest is futile nowadays and a large reason democracy doesn't work. The first thing that goes in these situations is a free press. Everyone but the one percents are going to get vaccumed up in this economy...especially with the end of Net Neutrality. The problem is people are being told told the poison is good for them by Fox News aka Wall Street and if you don't dig any deeper...before you know it you will be laying on the ground next to your Kool Aid realizing the mothership was a lie and everything you worked to build is taken and sacrificed for the "greater good" of the Communist Leader Wall Street.

Agree with the comment though I am not Brenty & I doubt He would (blind as a Bat in Direct sunlight & selfserving stupid as well) agree.

In this instance I can c a comparison 2 a communist wallstreet (Russia being t home of traitors of the people) still corpoRatist might be better.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

We need to see a movement for affordable housing that takes no more than say 25 to 30% of a single individual's or a married couple's income.

If absentee landlord ownership and rental streams are banned and rental streams of interest are also banned, affordable housing will move towards reality. Public ownership of land, mass housing and non profit lending are the only way affordable housing and sustainable economy will come to pass.

[+] -4 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Yeah, you really did a good job in the Soviet Union. Just because you have no skills, don't be angry with me. I would be willing to hire you...to pick up the trash. Maybe put the computer down and get out an work. Bernie

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

You really live in a place called Coon Rapids. Just because you have never won at anything and are overweight, don't push it on me.

Eeyore! It is You. The sad sack roofer(?) from Florida! I had my suspicions but You just erased all doubt. Utsa matter U get tired of ur old character name hchc?

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

The only people who didn't show up to the revolution Brent was the corporate media...which is why protest is futile nowadays and a large reason democracy doesn't work. The first thing that goes in these situations is a free press. Everyone but the one percents are going to get vaccumed up in this economy...especially with the end of Net Neutrality. The problem is people are being told told the poison is good for them by Fox News aka Wall Street and if you don't dig any deeper...before you know it you will be laying on the ground next to your Kool Aid realizing the mothership was a lie and everything you worked to build is taken and sacrificed for the "greater good" of the Communist Leader Wall Street. Mom and Pops are on the list of sacrificial lambs ...enjoy swimming past the corporate sharks and red tape they lobby for on you as they cut themselves a clear path. If you are small enough? you won't need to worry about taxes because you won't even have a business after the big vultures pick your bones dry and make it impossible for you to compete.

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

take the cookie out of your mouth, fatso. Your site really us hurting. What happened, had a revolution and nobody showed up HAAAAAAAHAAAA

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Society would be just fine without you Brent(?). You sound to me to be one of thoses types who feels that what is your's is your's and what is everyone else's should be your's as well. You don't want fairness or equality in the market place - Because you are as happy as a Bloated Tick sucking the blood out of the dog (society) you live on.

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

You really live in a place called Coon Rapids. Just because you have never won at anything and are overweight, don't push it on me.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

Before you were even a spermatozoon, people had been housed. Learn empathy. Imagine how you would feel if you suddenly find yourself in the other person's situation. A semblance of justice can be achieved if you can honestly say that your swapping places with that person doesn't diminish the happiness of either one.

[-] 0 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Get off the couch and work, fatty.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

U sound like Drumpf = everything is about U

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

Your business affects the community. By the supreme law of the universe, the community must affect your business. The community may very well be totally unqualified in some cases, such as the 2010 Macondo-well BP oil blow-out in the Gulf of Mexico had proven to the World. Of course, we have our Commando-in-Mischief erasing and recreating our memories so the U.S. has gone commando in Macondo. It's NO accident that our Commando-in-Mischief got into power because of the U.S. history of slavery (through the legacy of counting "men" and "sub-humans" and the Electoral College of Trumpanzia). ONLY human blood can atone for Sins, as billions of Christians worldwide believe. Erythrobaptism works. Qualifuckation also works for business as our Commando-in-Ma-Con-do demand of "bird ser-tit-fuck-ate" has proven for such a long time.

Generally speaking, humanity has grown less inclined towards violence as our cultures evolved to have better means of satisfying our burning desires "God also made me fast!" Kriege (wars) are NO longer the matter-of-fact "grocery shopping" of the act of kriegen (getting/obtaining). Most of the civilized world no longer condones grabbing women and girls off of the streets to enslave and rape them. The Western World tried to build that safeguard into the upbringing of the men and boys to some incomplete success. The rest of the world still tries to uphold the millennia-old customs and traditions that worked. A male (males in general ARE INDEED physically stronger than females) escort for female relatives is absolutely required to protect them if the patriarchal autocratic/machismo culture allows the males to abduct, rape the females, and then stone them afterwards for having committed adultery or fornication. In the U.S. for a long time, females were counted as ZERO "men" and the African slaves as three-fifths of a "man" in the representation through the House of Representatives so the females were even less "men" than slave "chattel." We the Americans frankly understand very well in our Collective Unconscious (as with King David) the Islamic and Hindu practices regarding women and girls.

The ancient Greeks' (and later on the copycat Romans') glorification and reverence of the human body (and the Humanism that had created the "Glory that was Greece!" - oh Yes, "testify!") will clash terribly with the Islamic and Hindu cultures. As far as the material comfort and well-being of the common people are concerned, the Western World, having gone through the Renaissance inheriting the ancient Greeks' obsession of and reverence for the human body, is definitely superior. I AM American because my father had his Enlightenment in a PUBLIC (gloriously belonged to the People!) toilet of the U.S.A. with "running Hot water!"

We must regulate businesses because evolution for better human ends is possible. Our ancient ancestors were probably violent slave-holding women-raping cannibals at one time or another but we have evolved legal mechanisms to resolve conflicts, abolished slavery mostly in favor of machine enslavement, locked up rapists and pedophiles, and banned head-hunting and eating human flesh and organs. Picturesque castles (many in nowadays Germany) bespoke of the barbaric horrors of the Past (wars, sieges, diseases, starvation, rapes, arsons, massacres, and deaths).

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

The real purpose of socialism is precisely to overcome and advance beyond the predatory phase of human development.

  • Albert Einstein on human progress

I know that the real inspiration of conservatism to be the preservation of their predatory and parasitic affliction of the majority of human beings. When I consider that conservatives aren't truly human that becomes preying upon and predation of the entire human race.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 6 years ago

expecting people to work for 8 bucks an hour is grotesque, just because you can't do shit, don't expect to hire a slave to do it for you, like I said in the beginning if you can do it do it, if you want to hire somebody to do it for you, follow the rules and WE have every right to have rules to keep your sick ass from that 13 year old...oh and when you were listing your heros you forgot the pussy-grabber -in-chief

[-] -2 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

first of all, you are the one defending the men going after all of these women. weinberg is part of your group. people work for me because they like it and they want to provide for their families, they want freedom not the governmental controls you want, by the way, nice apple news, oops, you are losing the argument

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 6 years ago

Your distraction is worthless, and your arguments non existent, as I've said people have not only the right but the moral obligation to ensure a fair wage for all.

[-] -1 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 5 years ago

Keep defending Harvey Weinstein. Trump is taking it to China. You are full of hot air, fair wage. Trump is the only one defending the working man.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Why should you have a say in my business?

Or in anyone's business? So that You and/or they do not become abusive to your employees or to the community in which you run your business or to the environment upon which EVERYONE depends upon for health and yes for life itself!

How are you qualified.

I too live in this world and have the same rights as ALL who live in this world and yes that includes you as well.

The people that I employee are free to go work for someone else or start their own business. Why don't you start a business or why don't they?

Sure they are free to work for someone else - that is - if there is another employer (and if u r an asshole of an employer - I am sure those who work for you find another employer as soon as possible) - many do start their own business - many don't want to start their own business, they just want to go to work for a LIVING WAGE do the best that they can for their employer their employer's customer and so for themselves and their family. None of this says that an employer can do whatever the hell they want.

BTW - from your comments - you remind me of a guy who used to make comments here under another name - he claimed 2 b a roofer in Florida - but reading his comments and then yours - well hell - you could be twins!

[-] -3 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

If you have a say in my business, then i should have a say in yours? That is only fair, right. So I will pick your trade for you and who you marry and whether you smoke or where you live,

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

If you have a say in my business, then i should have a say in yours? That is only fair, right. So I will pick your trade for you and who you marry and whether you smoke or where you live,

Idiot

When I say I have a say in what your business does - it is obvious that I mean Society as a Whole has the right. Your reply is like you = insane!

[-] -3 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

So do I have a right to say what society as a whole does? Should it be up for a vote. Society as a whole says what... Maybe no internet?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

Hey! A great construction business opportunity has just opened up in the "Americanized" Macondo near Santa Barbara. Rain (as well as lahars from Mt. Rainier's volcanic melting of the accumulated ice and snow) can indeed collapse buildings in our proprietary Americanized-for-the-affluent-folk mud-wrestling style as the Yellow Aryan Professor had predicted.

Another great business opportunity for flip (who loves inflation) and you at least is in Venezuela. Those supermarkets with empty shelves have just made tons of money selling groceries. Don't you want to earn some quick and easy bolivares, too? "Drill, baby, Drill!" Awww, yeah!!!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

The BIG "laugh" is you thinking that ... ''Bernie Sanders has never worked a hard day in his life and he is going to tell (you) how to run (your) construction business"!!! Reactionary Libertopian Horse$H!T ... is so easy to deconstruct, that it's barely worth the effort!! Either show your 'thinking' OR put up a link,alluding to it or fk off! Alternatively deal with the following and revert for another slap...

quid pro quo?

[-] -3 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

So he has gone to a bunch of colleges. Where has he worked? He was a documentary film maker? Oh boy, as I said, he has never worked a hard day in his life. He doesn't represent us blue collar workers. He is an ivory tower guy who wants to tell me how to live my life. No thanks.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

You are as deep & clear as a muddy puddle in a parking lot!!! The issue is NOT Bernie - or what he has done (other than Fight For USA's 99% his whole adult life) but it is the policies that he proposes for The Betterment of ALL Americans, that are key: https://berniesanders.com/issues/ !! Who do U propose has "represent(ed) us blue collar workers" in U$A?! IF ONLY, you & your "workers" would say .. "No thanks" to Oligarchy, Kleptocracy and Plutocracy & Stockholm Syndrome in The U$A! Now maybe consider the following:

U are not here to analyse, consider or propose better ideas for the improvement of lives in USA ... U are here to make reactionary RW brainfarts & regurgitate some RW, Randian Crapburger, that U ingested in your youth but sTill haven'T quiTe digesTed! U are a shill for the status quo .. et ergo ...

temet nosce!

[-] -3 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

I provide for my family and offer great job for my employees, their families, and provide a great product that people buy. I don't ask to take from other people and don't try to instill my beliefs on others. Bernie Sanders has not worked a day in his life and wants to control me. He has no right. That is what the US was founded on. If he wants to do that, he should move to another country. Pretty simple. The US was founded on freedom.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

WhaT "producT" are U providing & To who?! WTF d'U mean U "don't try to instill .. beliefs on others?!! It's called 'debating', dick and U can't handle it but sTill like to Try To mix iT here,righT?! Where should Bernie "move to"? Bali? Canada? lol! Finally consider, there is ''freedom'' TO DO X, Y, Z & there's also ''freedom'' FROM .. poverty, debt, servitude, ignorance, disease etc. Eg. Universal Healthcare .. would liberate U - from providing your "employees" with health insurance (U do that, right?) or them from the de facto taxes of premiums. Now fk off, read & watch the links below and have the lasT word .. iT'll be horse$H!T, guaranTeed! The US btw, "was founded" on colonization, imperialism and genocide.

e tenebris, lux ...


Re.below: Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn :-/

http://occupywallst.org/users/Thrasymaque/

a https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll /

anguis in herba; temet nosce; hic et nunc :-/

[+] -4 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

Nice, can't write so you have to start calling me names. back away from the computer and try reading. It will help you and help you control your anger.

Bernie can move where ever he wants. Since he doesn't put anything inot the system and just takes from the system, he is a parasite, so doesn't matter to me where he moves.

There you go again with your tough words. My guess is you never worked a hard day in your life and probably were a wimp growing up.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

I don't ask to take from other people and don't try to instill my beliefs on others

No? You don't try to instill your beliefs on others? What the hell is the following then:

Bernie Sanders has not worked a day in his life and wants to control me. He has no right.

I call you LIAR - all you do here is spew your right wing(nut) positions!

[-] -3 points by BrentWeirick81 (-85) 6 years ago

I don't want to come into your home and instill my beliefs on you. I don't try to push my regulations and my taxes on you. Bernie Sanders does. He would love nothing better for he and the government to control my work place and my efforts to provide for my family.

Do you ever wonder why this web site is dead. No one believes your arguments. Bernie lost. Hillary lost. Maybe you have Oprah. There you go. Oops, the only problem is your boy Weinstein is a sexual predator. As is Charlie Rose and Matt Lauer. All of your leaders said one thing and did another. Yep, love the integrity.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

The Yellow Aryans do superior constructions. You must be a member of the Noble Race (die Edelrasse) destined to conquer the World (with the greatest GDP through the Tao of creative destruction and destructive creation). The U.S. has much to learn from the Yellow Aryans as we rebuild under deregulation our soufflé infrastructure. Just like Kwajalein Rico, Macondo can certainly be "Americanized" from Santa Barbara to the East Coast as well.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

who's straw man are you?!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

who's straw man are you?!

Good question.

I mean the right wing shill is supposed to be quite ignorant (his it's? own assertion on other posts - doesn't know about citizens united? Sure) of politics.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

My question is:

How do you do blockquotes at the top of your comment and have them not appear as the link?

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 years ago

How do you do

very well thank you