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Forum Post: What Do You Do When Your Government Strips You Naked and Calls It Legal?

Posted 2 years ago on April 3, 2012, 3:50 p.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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I really can't stress enough how important this is. Your 4th amendment right is gone.

"The Supreme Court ruled in Florence v. Burlington that any person arrested can be subject to a strip search — even for a minor offense or traffic violation — without any reason to suspect that they may be carrying a weapon or contraband."

"As disturbing as the practice of subjecting people accused of minor offenses to degrading strip searches is, it wouldn’t be a problem if those people weren’t thrown behind bars in the first place. Unfortunately, U.S. jails are full of people accused of minor, nonviolent crimes. One such person was Albert Florence, a 35-year-old Black man erroneously arrested in 2005 for failing to pay a traffic fine he had already paid — and whose experience is the center of the case decided by the Court.

A New Jersey state trooper pulled over Florence’s pregnant wife as she was driving Florence and their 4-year-old son to dinner to celebrate their purchase of a home. Because Florence owned the vehicle, the officer ran his license and discovered a warrant for an outstanding noncriminal traffic fine. Despite the fact that Florence had already paid the fine and carried an official letter proving it, the police handcuffed and arrested him and dragged him off to jail. He was incarcerated for six days and subjected to two invasive strip searches. As Florence recounts, "I was just told, 'Do as you're told.' Wash in this disgusting soap and obey the directions of the officer who was instructing me to turn around, lift my genitals up, turn around, and squat." The next day a judge freed Florence, confirming that he had in fact paid his fine. (You can hear more from Florence in an ACS podcast interview. )

In a 5-4 opinion, the Court held that two New Jersey county jails had not violated the Fourth Amendment by routinely strip searching all new detainees including those, like Albert Florence, who had been arrested for minor offenses and were unlikely to spend more than one night in jail. With 13 million Americans jailed each year, the decision could have far-reaching consequences."

http://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/supreme-court-says-jails-can-strip-search-you-even-traffic-violations

THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU and there's nothing you can do about it now - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-xtddgL_s

http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-upholds-jail-strip-searches-194134556.html

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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (17667) 2 years ago

An article that speaks to the gist of this important post :

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (17667) 2 years ago

Further to the above, interested readers may also wish to consider :

e tenebris ...

[-] 3 points by Anti385 (58) 2 years ago

What do I do? I'd RAISE HELL. Complacency is not an option.

[-] 3 points by shooz (26665) 2 years ago

In this case, you will likely be locked in a jail cell.

Welcome to the Plutocratic States of the Military Industrial Complex!

[+] -5 points by OWSJesus (20) 2 years ago

You and epa are indeed aware this is a victory claimed by Obama and his SCOTUS......... of course you are!

You see nothing wrong with this at all, a victory for you too?

[-] 3 points by shooz (26665) 2 years ago

How did you come to that assumptive conclusion?

I just answered the question.

[+] -4 points by OWSJesus (20) 2 years ago

You answered nothing.

This is indeed a victory for Obama as he was indeed pushing for this and more.

Furthermore, your cohort constantly claims that SCOTUS is what is wrong with the United States today, they sure had no problem swinging with your boy and it sure looks like this also means they will uphold NDAA and much more.

[-] 4 points by shooz (26665) 2 years ago

Still assuming and presuming?

I stated a fact, in answer to the question asked.

You provide unsubstantiated opinion.

Welcome to the Plutocratic States of the Military Industrial Complex.

You have been assimilated.

[+] -4 points by OWSJesus (20) 2 years ago

Isn't it interesting how most all of your posts arrive with a +2 score?

Now go lick the jack boots of your revered complex's general, Obama.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26665) 2 years ago

You can't even get the nomenclature correct for your insults.

Some holy man you turned out to be.

Is that why you came back? To ask stupid questions and insult people?

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.

The Dude: Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy...

Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you...?

The Dude: Walter, he peed on my rug!

Donny: He peed on the Dude's rug.

Walter Sobchak: Donny you're out of your element! Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!

[-] 1 points by shooz (26665) 2 years ago

He's not the general. He's the Commander and Chief.

I always wondered, where did they ever get Chief from?

Commander I get, even though the generals do all real deciding.

But Chief? As in Geronimo?

Oh well, it's a bitch talking to the assimilated anyway...........:)

[-] -3 points by OWSJesus (20) 2 years ago

If OWS awards a trophy for the Most Trite and Lame Post Whore, you'll win by a landslide.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26665) 2 years ago

You must be a troll, as you are incapable of answering the simplest of questions, and follow with attempts at insult.

There's nothing lamer than that.................:)

In a World of lame, you are the lamest.

[-] -2 points by OWSJesus (20) 2 years ago

Eat it Fascist Liar!

The Republican Masters made them do it.

http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-upholds-jail-strip-searches-194134556.html

"The decision was a victory for the jails and for the Obama administration, which argued for strip searches of all those entering the general jail population, even those arrested on minor offenses."

[-] 0 points by shooz (26665) 2 years ago

My my, another insult?

One that's still has no basis in what I actually posted, in answer to the question.

They've been strip searching and or touchie feeling around here for years.

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[-] 1 points by Truth4Life (43) 2 years ago

This has been going on for decades and nobody has objected up to now.

[+] -4 points by OWSJesus (20) 2 years ago

The Republican Masters made them do it.

http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-upholds-jail-strip-searches-194134556.html

"The decision was a victory for the jails and for the Obama administration, which argued for strip searches of all those entering the general jail population, even those arrested on minor offenses."