Forum Post: What do you call it when someone steals someone else's money secretly? Theft.
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 29, 2011, 8 p.m. EST by aries
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What do you call it when someone takes someone else's money openly by force? Robbery.
What do you call it when a politician takes someone else's money in taxes and gives it to someone who is more likely to vote for him? Social Justice.
Ben Shalom Brenanke taxed you more in the past few years than any single politician ever will.
agreed - I dont know where the "shalom" comes from though.
His mother, I guess. She meant well, at least.
If you ever speak poorly about Uncle Ben, ever again, you will be instantly banned from this forum.
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Truth be told, Bernanke doesn't creep me out as much as Greedspan, but I'm really sick and tired of having Israeli-first Zionist running my country.
You're banned. Good bye.
Babyface Brenanke is dangerous in his actions, regardless of national loyalty. I didn't intend to suggest that he should be measured completely by his affinity to Zionist Israel. He should be measured, first and foremost, by his actions as Fed Chairman, and there is more than enough there to denounce him. These zillion dollar bailouts are insane!
I'll try to find Spitzer's critique of this.
I said you were banned, stop posting or I'll show you some keyboard karate and your mommy will be sorry.
"Geithner, Bernanke Complicit in Financial Crisis" ~ Eliot Spitzer
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/4/eliot_spitzer_geithner_bernanke_complicit_in
Stop it! You'll make me cry! I hate you!
Babyface Bernanke is you hero?
I'm tri-polar and my welfare has run out. I swear I'm going to flip whoppers and scratch up enough coin to get more.
There are people who actually do need help. Unfortunately the system is often abused. Often people who actually do need help aren't able to focus their efforts sufficiently to get the help, while those who want to game the system are able to follow through on the paperwork.
What do you call it when Reagan takes someone else's money (the 99%) in taxes and gave it to someone who is more likely to vote for him (the 1%)??
So Reagan is the only one who did this? God bless his soul. No other president promised to take from one group & give to another? What do you think is happening now lol! I guess it's ok if you are the beneficiary lol!
Who said "Reagan is the only one who did this"??
Not me.
That's just a desperate straw man you constructed out of frustration you felt while reading my post.
" I guess it's ok if you are the beneficiary lol!"
I'm willing to see my taxes increase rather than live in a society of permanent classes that leaves no incentive at all to work hard for those in any class.
Those who are the real winners are the ones that realize these politicians are all screwing us, and just try to stay one step ahead of them.
who brought up Reagan as the problem TLydon007 ? joke argument
"who brought up Reagan as the problem"
Seems you did.
I'm just asking what you'd call a massive redistribution of wealth from the 99% to the top 1%? That's what he did. Don't get angry with me for laying down the facts.
from your original post : "What do you call it when Reagan takes someone else's money (the 99%) in taxes and gave it to someone who is more likely to vote for him (the 1%)??"
When did I say it was a problem??
I asked what you would call it...
Are you offended that I brought up a historical fact that you'd rather ignore?? If so, I apologize that you're so ashamed of your own convictions.
Perhaps one day you can believe in something that you don't feel so ashamed of??
When you rob Peter to pay paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.
hahahaha! hysterical
Q : "What do you call it when someone steals someone else's money secretly ?"
A : PARASITISM !!!
ad iudicium ...
Glad you learned what distinguished the two parties from one another. What is your point?
What do you call it when people put country first and pay their fair share? Patriotism.
here we go again - define fair share?
There is no absolute definition. What kind of silly question is that?
exactly - so what are ou talking about?
The ethos of patriots putting country first - what r u talkin' bout?
yea ok - it's always the other guy who is greedy.. what have you done that is so patriotic?
I pay more taxes than a millionaire. how's that for a start.
it's just not true thats all
check the story about the 200 millionaires going to congress demanding their taxes be raised. you can accept whatever truth you like.
they dont have to go to congress they can not take deductions, or write a check if they want. nothing says they cant pay more to the government if they want to. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703849204576303040425833126.html
you miss my point entirely, I feel there is nothing that will make you understand my point of view.
yea - because you make no sense lol! happy new year !
I make perfect sense to a great number of people I have known, many tell me I am very wise. I think you just don't want to make an effort to hear me.
hahaha! well I am sure the people to whom you make sense are of the same pretzel logic as you so that does make perfect sense lol! Happy New Year !!! : )
You make my point even clearer. You didn't come here to listen, you came here to denounce any point of view that doesn't conform to your sensibilities. That is sad and narrow-minded on your part.
No you don't. Don't show your ass!
Aren't you late for your 'men in tights' rehearsal?
I'm here to hear how you think you pay more than a millionaire. Please tell.....
Please leave...
Ha. Knew it. Your full of shit and you know it. Damn, I really wanted to hear what you would have come up with.
Still haven't figured out percentages, eh?
I know money. Show me how jadedprick paid more in taxes than a millionaire. Even jadedprick knows when to run and hide!
I know enough not to argue with a dumb ass. It's a complete waste of time.
Percentages.
It's not that hard to figure out.
His percentage is higher. Plus he doesn't get the free lunches. We pay for them instead..
If I throw a stick, will you leave?
Prove your not a dumbass and tell me how you pay more money. It's that simple.
That's why your losers and you'll never be millionaires....your dumbasses.
I call both "theft" -- only a confused mind makes the distinction.
Yes, I know that is your point; but through sarcasm you missed the mark.
lets not forget that banks still exist today, (at our bailout expense) who took 10% portions of our homes gambled with 2nd mortgages that were hidden to us, and should be illegal, called (cdo's) formed by CITIBANK, (this is why their stock fell to 1 dollar in 2008) and then got bailed out. Banks shouldnt have gotten bailed out thru those closed door meetings in congress oversite commitees called by execs from... (forgot their names) If we would have let those banks fail, then the true dark works they were up to would be evident to us today, but instead another brainwashing is in effect.
Investment banks and commercial banks need to be seperated. It aleviates all of the problems.
Return Glass Steagall, problem solved.
who defaulted on their mortgage payments?
BTW, just WHO were selling Fraudulent Ponzi / Pyramid Mortgages And Then slicing and splicing these "Loans & Debt Contracts" with Others, into "AAA+++ Innovative Financial Investment Products" (CDOs ; CDSs etc.) All of which will now collapse back in on itself back to its source where it will ...
Once Again be revealed that The Trading of Compound Interest Bearing, Usurious Generational Debt = THE Single Biggest EVIL On EARTH, our amazing, beautiful and fragile Only HOmmme ~{:-)
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why did those so called "fraudulent" negotiable instruments default? Not so fraudulent because they are still being used, nothing illegal. You may not like it but credit default swaps are perfectly legal.
Please Do NOT confuse "legal" with ... 'Bona Fide' ; Ethical ; Fair ; Moral or Reasonable and do NOT confuse "perfectly" WiTH "Technically" !!!
ad iudicium ...
so you are the authority on morality I take it?
For U "Nutley" ; Yes u can take it thus. ;-) !!
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you may not like it but it is true.
when we have data mining and demographic tools designed to analyze a given community to determine how much a specific demographic can pay for a service - or energy, like gasoline - and where such tools are used - as they have been in California - the consequence is that significant portion of the economy as a whole become siphoned off into a very select number of bank accounts, rather than circulating.
It is no longer capitalism, but rather monopolism.
once upon a time we had created laws to prevent this kind of thing.
chaos is coming
shit head
what is your solution?
understand the nature of the social discontent that is growing and address it in concrete and specific ways -
level the playing field - we can either do that figuratively, by instituting legislative measures that translate into access to legal redress in a timely manner when property owners have their wells poisoned, or their loans foreclosed on within an environment of widespread fraud - these are only two issues -
then there is the conduct of politics in the country today - the practice of the Art of War on Capitol Hill - campaign finance reform is one measure that will address a portion of that process that is completely broken.
We can institute practical measures that bring a greater measure of fairness to the public as a whole -
or the playing field will be leveled by the public.
We are Americans after all. That state of conditioned helplessness is not one that is natural to us, we are right now like a moth, emerging from a cocoon.
I have a list if you like - it is only partial:
No downsizing the Postal Service
No KeyStone Pipeline
two step approach to the issue of national debt:
short term: end bushite tax breaks and corporate welfare
end debate over entitlements I'm sick of hearing about it as if it were dirty. Forget privatization of social security and just shoot the next bastard who suggests otherwise [speaking for myself of course.]
public health care - forget the option part.
We need an energy policy uninfluenced by fossil fuel industry, one that takes into account the fact of global warming, and institutes a NASA like approach to solving both our need for energy and the need to reduce atmospheric carbon
No to internet censorship in any form
If they engaged in fraud - they see the judge, and the sentencing better be in line with the crime, and had better include serious restitution
End the foreclosures.
End the philosophy of a deregulated economic system - from the Universities to the policy makers
End corporate personhood
campaign finance reform - Sanders Amendment:
Sanders Proposed Constitutional Amendment:
Sanders Petition here:
Full amendment PDF:
end the two party political system
quit fucking around with the issue of terrorism - it's a crime, unless you happen to catch them on an actual battlefield - and if it is a crime, treat them in accordance with our criminal laws. No more indefinite detention
Close Gitmo - we've got large pens practically empty in the mid west. I'm sure they can handle it. Stop fucking around.
Amended: I would like to see energy production, telecommunications, and the economic infrastructure, all secured in public, rather than private, hands.
Amended: we need to provide stiff and compelling sanction to corporations that engage in disinformation - as with the tobacco industry before and the fossil fuel industry now [and for the past 10-20 years]
tower of babble - you have too much time on your hands.
I just barely posted that.
Is that what you really think?
Or are you a computer generated script?
In any case, I believe the answers here are indeed, out of our hands. The only question before each of us, is
as we've always done - adapt. what do you suggest? specifically.
here are a few to start...skip down to the content http://www.the99declaration.org/
sounds great. so why are you occupying the 1% then? You should be occupying congress & giving them a heads up lol!
short answer... this is like addictive...I was actually occupying my old computer, to get news, on what was happening in my state capital one day on the budget, and I took some online poll, do I align with ows beliefs, I answered affirmative, but was not actually sure besides seeing them on the news marching on a bridge, or getting pepper sprayed, what it was, so I wound up discussing ows right to exist, and the came to this site to see what is their purpose and cause, to be an educated voter, is is my personal responsiblility. and it's a bit entertaining and informative to see people's opinions and evidence. some of what ows is about, in my opinion is a reflection of the issues surrounding our current time historically,socially and economically in 2011. but it is hard to pin down ows on actual issues.. I really didn't know what they're about. As i didn't know what they were about, but I like politics,history,...I want to be open to an exploration of the philosophical issues with similar and differing views, in the process of getting informed, in the spirit of democracy. and its kind of addictive, sorry to say, Too, I think there is a huge wealth divide, and when it is increasing, it is not sustainable and hurts everyone. Henry Ford wanted his workers to be able to afford his product. Neither political party can compromise and get their job done--reducing the debt, yes, too, I think when student loan debt is a $trillion and the economy has not enough jobs, thats a failure. I don't like to fail. personally i think ows should go to dc more, and inform congress of this. the only reason i see as they have not, is they are still processing the answer that meets the problem, which ideas may be in the above. you have a good point. think i'll mail my congressmen this 99 document proposal. some of us kind of get it by writing about it, and seeing similar and dissimilar viewpoints. that's maybe how i learn and process information.. others, they may be visual, and need to see or participate in a ows, or those who feel disenfranchised, they need support to, cause that is a human need, and I don't want anyone getting more alienated than necessary.
Geez - this is the short answer lol!
I was specific.
Social stability is requisite to doing business, to owning property, fostering social stability is a proper function of government.
You can get behind that,
or off yourself.
the choice is entirely up to you.
That is correct. However - the only ones I see trying to "destabalise" society is OWS LOL!
then you are a fool
Sit on my face after drinking a PBR and chocolate ice cream shake. Hit the trampoline for 5 minutes first and bring a hefty sack so I don't miss a drop. This is the secret to my stinky hair doo.
From what I hear, you should not be allowed to own a German Shepard, you sick fuck.
Hey Cybil, what are you hearing from all those voices in your head today? I'm sure several of them are encouraging you to take a nap on the subway tracks, don't forget the zannie bars!
It was a terrible mistake for me to allow you to tongue Fido's poopshoot with you insisting he not wear socks. Dumb bitch.
Know why you have rabies? Because you're a buttfucking cuntrag.
You insisted and even paid me to sodomize you. Next time, remove all the dead carp and bring some baby wipes, you rancid herpes infested anorexic needle junkie.
Once upon a time there was a chicken fucking fuckpuppet.
Surprise, it was you.
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You're the most dog fucking dingleberry eating poo sniffer I know.
So we'll meet at the Humane Society tomorrow at noon, as usual? With or without the ski masks? If we are going to do the cats as planned, I'm saying yeah to the ski masks.
Go pound yourself, you douche-drinking, retarded, retarded, cock mauling, cock mauling aunt-riding paramedic-sucking cattle raper.
hahahahaha! happy new year to you too !!!
Teehee, how many hours have you been a cockstain?
What do you call it when an employer takes from employees?
A voluntary agreement between employer & employee.
Hmmmmm.
What do you call it when someone steals your money to buy your own government out from under you?
Good business?
Where is the money I need to live? I'll go get it from someone who is poorer than me. Don't bother looking for it with an uber investor, bank or Giga corporation. Billionaires don't have it. Liberal politicians have taxed them all to death and given the money to the poor.
Get your heads out of your asses and go get the money back from the poor who have it all!
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I guess you cant reply with thoughts of your own - all you can do is post a link. Sheep like drone behavior.
I call it another form of someone admitting to the world that they have no concern for what may happen in to themselves or offspring.
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This is why we are here this is why you are needed.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/
Share, circulate, educate, inspire.
See also people from all walks of life, from all over the political map "not" supporting a party or leader or group of leaders but "supporting an Ideal".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Bgqt1YYko
Check this out could be real good fun. (petition inside)
http://occupywallst.org/forum/irs-could-resellrent-foreclosed-properties/
yada yada yada - what s your point?
It is obvious if you take the time to look. Don't depend on others telling you things, that is marching blindly.
A voluntary agreement between employer & employee.