Forum Post: Please keep commenting/bumping for Admin to take notice!! What can be done to make this forum better??? Have your say!
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 25, 2011, 10:17 a.m. EST by blazefire
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Please leave any ideas here for admin. Also anyone that has the necessary skill sets to help would probably be a bonus. p.s. I'm not from admin... but figure they will get this!! lol.... and it can't hurt... we need a suggestion box!
-Edit- Just so everyone know admin is working on everything! Please be patient, as they are volunteers, and currently have various things to occupy (lol), and please give your thanks on this page for all admin and their fellow heroes! Woop! And again a call to any online helpers, or anyone that knows of such helpers, to aid these forums would, I'm certain, be muchly appreciated!
Search for posts : by name, by date, by topic.
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Ability to search is one feature I would definitely like to see!
Also, a list of all user-posts on their profile pages.
This would make it a lot easier to spot trolls and their crypto-troll cousins.
I agree.
Absolutely, I second this idea.
By the way, excellent post Blazefire! This is first of this kind of thread I have seen. It's a positive idea for a thread and certainly can help immensely.
Thanks puzzlin!
My Pleasure!
A view under 'best' and 'recent' comments of the single worst rated comment of the day.
One of the best formats for an internet forum I've seem Is oddly enough an investors forum. http://investorshub.advfn.com/ it has organized categories and sub categories and moderators. While I like the open forum here to a point I think some subjects should be accessible in moderated forums to keep out trolls --------- trolls should be allowed to post in the open forum (one mans troll is another mans mentor) but could be edited on the moderated forums.
And it shall be bumped.
Edit: No problem!
Thnx! Keeps it up the top!
This site could have a file ( for easy access ) of useful educational posts that have been submitted. It could also have a file for easy access, of posts deemed worthy that are asking for participation.
There are a lot of good ideas here, but nothing will happen unless users contribute some code. The forum is open-source and anybody can provide some pull requests to the Github account. It's fine to give ideas, but you need to be active if you want to see some change. The main programmer, jart, is no longer actively working on the code. The last update was on November 27th. Nobody has offered to help. Nobody has provided pull requests. Community projects don't go very far unless the community participates actively.
Thank you for this.
Also myself and others are still working on this! We just haven't had a chance to commit much over the past couple weeks because we've been working out some other non-tech related things. Expect to see some serious traffic on the github in a few days.
Oh....and I must mention this thread also....may have some interesting things for you, re security/trolls.....
http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-to-defeat-trolls-and-the-establishment-in-this/
Btw....thnx again....None of this would be happening without your efforts...
Thanks....again....
That's good to know. I can't wait to see your new additions. Keep up the good work.
Hey, guys --
It's not a question of the code but of implementing security procedures.
I'll email you.
↥like ↧dislike for topics.
And more people to actually click on them.
Best Topics of the Day
a search, to find related posts.
add a third column with a list of the last 200 topics, along with links to older topics
We need sections in the forums!!! Maybe a social one, political one, events one... etc, etc.... so as to organise our thoughts a little better!!!
Buuuurrrrmp!
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Please keep voting and commenting!
buuurmp!
Fix the forums, and fix em here!
Booomp!
buuuurmpo!
bumpity, shmumpity!
Buuuuummmpy!
Fix the forums! Fix them here!
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Bump
Aw, it specifically asks not to bump this. Well, we would benefit from having sub forums at least.
Sign this while you wait for another bump.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/fb/petition/petition/force-industry-implementing-hydrogen-fuel-technology/Pqd8bP9q
Hey! Just emailed Admin, and they're checking it all out!
They have to get backpages sometimes I can't even find posts that I posted an hour ago it goes off the page. There should be a tab when all posts go off into "posting limbo" so that you can find old posts.
On my computer, if I keep pulling the side slider down to the bottom of the page, the older posts get listed at the bottom. Then I can search by a key word that will be unique to the post I want, and I can get to it.
There should be an alert button on posts in the reply section. Ideally 1%ers and their trolls should be identified and excluded from being able to use the alert button.
The alert button should be used as a notification to all of us on the web-site who are taking part to make positive change, that an important or useful post has been made. This alert would contain the link to the post so that all who are alerted can open it and act on it.
Anyone with obvious connections to Campaign for Liberty, FreedomWorks, the Cato Institute, the von Mises Institute, the Mercatus Center, or other pro-elite libertarian think tanks should be banned. this includes Peter Schiff followers and members of We Are Change.
The "END THE FED" libertarians have connections to violent racists and present several serious dangers to OWS.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/end-the-fed-movement-has-ties-to-domestic-terroris/
buuurrrrmp!
I was just wondering if anyone from admin has received this particular thread of info? could you pm me if you have!
Or reply here.... or something?
I was just wondering if anyone from admin has received this particular thread of info? could you pm me if you have!
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Why?
Forget the ordering by ratings. It makes it impossible to follow threads over time.
Considering the traffic of this site, why is it remaining as it is? Why is there very little in terms of organised discourse in these pages? It is a disjointed mix of truth and lies that serves no purpose other than to distract from purpose itself. 'We' seem to be lost amongst those that would repeat the same tyring rubbish as yesterday, or, fragmented by the chaos of repeated ideas. Admin! Harken, without some sense of order this is naught but chaos!
Great!
categories and moderates to organize threads
Search This Website
This is a tread to organize forum Topics by category
Please do not respond to posts here. Follow the link to the thread and post there.
I've been collecting and organizing thread heads. Each thread head post has a link to thread on this forum so some threads have been ordered and can be brought back up.
The Protest
The Issues
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general catch all
detractors
markdown
I think the ows site is fine the way it is. :)
Being able to search by poster, topic, etc., would be helpful. There is a fair amount of thoughtful content here, but it is hard to find in all the, ah, you-know-what-I-mean.
Here's something worth your while.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/
Enjoy. :)
more great ideas!
Together... We will occupy!! Somewhere.... on this forum..... this top spot, is high price property!!! lol..... Bump!
"Ignored", "troll", "injustice".... hehehhehe, I got ur attention! bump!
I keep telling people - use the H20 rotisserie software to get the best ideas to the top. This forum will never do what the H2O software does. occupy can even write its own version. The Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School provides it for free.
Admin.... Yooohoooo.....Bumpo shmumpo!
Fix the spell checker, it keeps doing this: Ron Lawl
See post calling for visual-python developers. In that a project is mentioned that can organizing all this in a social manner while generating real currency for people to accomplish tasks for the movement.
In the interim:
Bump!!! HELLLOOOOO!!!!! lol.... Can admin hear us???? lol
Bump!!! HELLLOOOOO!!!!! lol.... Can admin hear us???? lol
I just posted this today before I saw yours, I also emailed it to the organizers.
Forum Post: Suggestions to Improve this Discussion Forum Posted 3 hours ago on Nov. 26, 2011, 5 a.m. EST by Evolution001 (Vancouver, BC) | edit | delete This content is user submitted and not an official statement
I am new to this website. There is some very useful content here but it is hardly organized. I have been to another site (occupytogether.org) which is much better organized but does not get anything close to the web traffic and even the number and variety of the content here. So I would really love to see this site improved. I wish I could volunteer for such an action but unfortunately I don't know anything about computer programming. I hope to see it so improved that it could even be used for more serious "educational" purposes. For now I offer some suggestions and hope others do the same and bring this to the attention of the organizers or other volunteers.
1- Provide Categories and even Subcategories (e.g., occupytogether.org for a start)
2- Search Capability (e.g., applied to key words in the title of of posts)
3- Organize the comments in the discussion threads chronologically, and / or provide a better means of finding the latest comments
4- Provide a larger content window when the user posts a thread or a comment, and a preview option
5- Consider an ignore option to remove potential spammers by individual reader's option, and / or easy way of reporting abusers
6- Provide a way of following a contributer (i.e., following his / her other discussion threads and comments including inbox messaging)
7- Consider establishing an OccupyWorld site for discussion and exchange of ideas on an international level with global participation e.g., categorized by the world itself, continents, countries - facilitating the flow of information and sharing the experience of the global movement (i.e., at least trying to keep up with the global 1%)
Equality, Solidarity
Those are good ideas, but nothing will happen unless users contribute some code. The forum is open-source and anybody can provide some pull requests to the Github account. It's fine to give ideas, but you need to be active if you want to see some change. The main programmer, jart, is no longer actively working on the code. The last update was on November 27th. Nobody has offered to help. Nobody has provided pull requests. Community projects don't go very far unless the community participates actively.
great ideas! bump
bumping!
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Charge a membership fee.
How about free gift cards to Starbucks for best Posts of the Day? Oh fuck, no, not Starbucks, I forgot, we don't like them. Okay, make that Walmart ... Crap! What the fuck? (I just want free stuff.) Can't we have, like an Occupy Scratch Lotto or something? Endorsements! Action figures? No, wait, I got it! STOCK. Let's go public. Beat them at their own game. I am totally fucking serious. Bump that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNO_QJzaQ8
Wow! I have an answer....http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50500650/yourtopia-your%20official%20final%20beginning.pdf
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Start a new one and have it closely moderated? Also, even require genuine movement supporters to have spent at least one hour at some occupation somewhere.
How would you verify this?
Why would you potentially risk excluding a housebound genius from participation?
Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but I have seen people in wheel chairs at OWS, so very, very few disabled people are truly and absolutely housebound.
I don't disagree... simply saying that being overly restrictive might be an unwise policy.
The 99% encompasses a broad spectrum (obviously), and some folks - while unable to participate in person - might nonetheless bring a tasty dish to the table.
I know that everybody has a busy life. People have to work. But nearly everyone has two days off a week. Nearly everyone could afford to take one day off out of their entire lives to visit the occupation nearest them for 24 hours or at least long enough to sit through one GA, For most people that experience would entirely change their lives and for nearly everyone it would make their participation on this forum infinitely better informed.
The problem with 'nearly everyone' has the potential to remove potential advantageous persons from participating.
Even the trolls have their place on forums, they are the ones who often bump meaningful threads consistently even if it means weeding through their replies.
Trolls also give the advantage of counterpoints to arguments.
Someone mentioned a search feature, I asked a moderator or programer (my fault I forget which) about possibly making the forum easier to navigate, and was told (this was a week or two ago) that a search feature was 'in the works' and this is a beta forum so it'll take some time to work things out, but I'd imagine a few suggestions for improvement would not be amiss.
I'm not sure what a troll is, but there are people on this forum whose values are so fundamentally contrary to those of OWS that regardless of their specific criticisms, they are not especially helpful.
Regarding people who have never been to an occupation or GA, regardless of their sincerity, they very often derail the conversation because of there innocence regarding what OWS is really all about. I have seen dozens of ideas here, but virtually nothing about how to go about actually getting them implemented.
It would probably be a good idea for people who really are incapable of ever attending an occupation or GA because of disability, a very heavy work schedule, very long distance from the closest occupation or some other reason to have a genuine on line GA to get them into the spirit of the movement OccupyInternet or something like that. But I suspect that those people who a really incapable of ever attending an occupation or GA anywhere are few and far between and I truly believe that it would be most helpful (to the forum) if people made an effort to refrain from posting ideas until they had attended at least one live GA to see how it works live or at the very least had really concrete ideas as to how to actually get any GA anywhere to actually adopt their ideas.
Again, your original premise was to physically attend. There are people who have previous responsibilities, children, elderly, livestock among other things who simply can not spend 24 hours else where unless it's dire circumstances, such as a hospital stay.
You have noted in your reply that distance is an issue, which would be correct, yet 'very long distance' is relative to a person's circumstance. Some do not own automobiles, some have automobiles that they can trust to get to the nearest town but correctly do not trust to take them farther than a few miles.
You presume that no one other than those who have attended a GA understand what a direct democracy looks like, yet millions have participated in direct democracy long before OWS ever existed.
There are few things in this world that are not open to interpretation, that each person understands based on his/her own experiences.
Lastly, every word spoken or written is an idea. Presuming that OWS and the GAs are the only possible avenue to change is an incorrect presumption and that presumption cancels out other potential avenues to effect change at the level change needs to occur.
OWS is but one avenue and by creating this avenue others are opening. When presented with an advantage, one should take advantage of it.
I fully understand that there are people who literally are, for various reasons, genuinely unable to attend an occupation or a GA, but I suspect that demographic is considerably smaller than you seem to imply.
I also think that there are many many people who contribute to this forum who do in fact have the time to take just one day out of their lives to attend an occupation and if they did so I believe that their contributions would be considerably enriched.
Personally I don't own an automobile and there is currently no occupation in my home town, though there are several available within 4 hours or less by public transportation. Ironically the occupation closest to me is the one that is least convenient by public transportation. I work and I also have medical conditions which prevent me from being at occupations as often as I'd like. That said, I have been to several occupations, several times over night and several more GAs. I'm not suggesting that everyone can do this. What I am suggesting is that a lot more people who claim to be sympathetic to OWS could do it at least once than are doing it and even one visit to an occupation and especially to a GA would considerably enrich the discussion here.
It is not just about the process of a GA which is important, but it is also about the sense of community which are developed in the occupations which really are unique and which constantly reinforce to the participants that the occupations are not just about pitching a bunch of tents and sleeping over night with the threat of police harrassment, but really are models for the new kind of society they would like to create. That can only really be experienced by being there, though some moral equivalent of it might be approximated by actually trying to construct an on line occupation.
I would just leave it alone because the way OWS is dissolving so quickly, so will this lame site
ummmmm....I strongly disagree. Can you prove it?
The protest going from 10,000 to 1,000 proves it. The movement is hosed. You folks will never be like the honest "for America" like the Tea Party is
Ahhhh....what makes you think there are only 1000 of us? Thats in one city, in one nation....thats it.
And the tea party? Just so you are aware, I'm Aussie, so, I wa not counted in that 1000, and, I know plenty of people who know what occupy is (whether they understand it or not), but no-one knows who the tea party is, and certainly don't know about the reference to a long forgotten piece of American political history. Occupy is global, and growing. The tea party? Is not.
So what brings you to these forums anyway? You sound almost hopeful that occupy will fail?
No I do not want to see if fail but I do not believe in the violence displayed by OWS either
I'm glad you support OWS! Thankyou! Without people like you we would be less! As to the violence......Who says they represent anyone but themselves?
Omnia vincit amor. Carpe diem.
I thought OWS was about peaceful protest?
It most certainly is! Non-violence is the key! As I said to danmi, who says they were representing anyone but themselves? Do you also support OWS?
I support anyone who fights against the fraud, corruption and criminal elements in the government and corporations.
And that's good to hear! So what brings you here? What is your take, your 'piece of the puzzle'?
Mundus vult decipi.
I thought so to but the media is painting a different picture of them. I do support some of their causes but have zero support for the violence. I am afraid that the way our Country is currently heading that there will be chaos in the streets soon.
im afraid the infotainment media that is inflicted on USA cannot be trusted...