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Forum Post: What are you trying to do?

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 29, 2011, 10:34 p.m. EST by clucas (1)
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I have seen nothing but messing with the everyday lives of the "99" percent that doesnt have time or doesnt argee with your protest. I personaly have been attacked by members of your "movement" in the DC protest and called a fat ass greedy capitalist for trying to do my job during the protest/camping. I am just trying to find out if your "protest" is just a way to bully people who are making a way for them selfs or do you have a real reason to screw with people

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[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

I can only speak for myself in Tampa.

I work for myself. I want campaign finance reform and reinstate Steagall. I want my fellow Americans to get more involved in organically developing candidates.

Thats it. I work a lot, and try to help when I can.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

Obviously you have a rather myopic view of the movement. Let me provide a small slice of perspective:

  • On Nov. 17, 2011, Friends of the Earth released a statement of solidarity with the Occupy Movement. You can follow the link to find out who they are and why they have chosen to support us.

There are perhaps hundreds of reasons to protest. The nature of the movement at this time is such that you are welcome to define those reasons for yourself, and bring them to your local GA.

If your view of the state of this nation, today, is such that you don't see anything worthy of protest, then clearly, either you are simply not paying attention, or

  • you are a part of the problem.

I have a list of my own:

  • No downsizing the Postal Service

  • No KeyStone Pipeline

  • two step approach to the issue of national debt:

    • short term: end bushite tax breaks and corporate welfare

      • long term: restructure / simplify the tax code so that it is competitive for businesses to do business and keep their money here; and pays down the debt, and keeps social security solvent
  • end debate over entitlements I'm sick of hearing about it as if it were dirty. Forget privatization of social security and just shoot the next bastard who suggests otherwise [speaking for myself of course.]

  • public health care - forget the option part.

  • We need an energy policy uninfluenced by fossil fuel industry, one that takes into account the fact of global warming, and institutes a NASA like approach to solving both our need for energy and the need to reduce atmospheric carbon

  • No to internet censorship in any form

  • If they engaged in fraud - they see the judge, and the sentencing better be in line with the crime, and had better include serious restitution

  • End the foreclosures.

  • End the philosophy of a deregulated economic system - from the Universities to the policy makers

  • End corporate personhood

  • campaign finance reform - Sanders Amendment:

  • end the two party political system

  • quit fucking around with the issue of terrorism - it's a crime, unless you happen to catch them on an actual battlefield - and if it is a crime, treat them in accordance with our criminal laws. No more indefinite detention

  • Close Gitmo - we've got large pens practically empty in the mid west. I'm sure they can handle it. Stop fucking around.

  • Amended: I would like to see energy production, telecommunications, and the economic infrastructure, all secured in public, rather than private, hands.

  • Amended: we need to provide stiff and compelling sanction to corporations that engage in disinformation - as with the tobacco industry before and the fossil fuel industry now [and for the past 10-20 years]

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Thats a pretty nice list ZenDog!

[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

well thanks

[-] 1 points by necropaulis (491) 12 years ago

No, they don't have a reason. They don't even know who they are mad at. If you ask them who the "enemy" is, they will give you broad answers. "the banks", "the government", blah, blah, blah. When you ask them to name names, they can't do it. When you rebut with names of people who would fit in this imaginary "1%", they will tell you that you don't know what you're talking about or that they aren't the ones to be mad at. And yes, the bulk of them are assholes who just want to get in the way of people who, unlike them, are actually getting shit done.

In the end the all just want stuff handed to them and don't understand that you gotta work to get rich.

[-] 1 points by clucas (1) 12 years ago

does any body on this site have an idea or are you protesting because its the cool thing to do?