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Posted 11 years ago on Aug. 5, 2012, 7:21 p.m. EST by Iwonderwhy (19)
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West Setting Stage For Syria Invasion

By Ismail Salami

August 05, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- The sudden resignation of UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan from the peace efforts circle in Syria, which evidently materialized under duress from the US government, has caused extreme joy for Washington officials, who now see this as a sign that the international community is ready accept that Syrian President Bashar Assad has to go and that the peace efforts would eventually reach a cul-de-sac.

Likewise, the move has caused frustration in those who had pinned their hopes on the possible fruition of these efforts and those who had been resistant to see Syria as another potential Iraq for US military expeditions.

The Syrian foreign ministry expressed “regrets” at Annan’s announcement, saying, “The countries seeking to destabilize Syria are the ones that impeded and continue to impede the mission.”

Russia expressed sorrow over Annan’s departure. Russia's Ambassador to the United Nations Vitaly Churkin said on Thursday his country regrets Annan's decision to step down.

"We understand that it's his decision," Churkin told reporters. "We regret that he chose to do so. We have supported very strongly Kofi Annan's efforts. He has another month to go, and I hope this month is going to be used as effectively as possible under these very difficult circumstances."

Besides, Annan’s resignation has afforded Washington and its western allies the latitude to heap blame on China and Russia for what they claim to be an obstruction of democracy in Syria.

The United States on Thursday blamed China and Russia for the resignation of UN peace envoy Kofi Annan on the refusal of the two countries to back resolutions targeting Syrian President Bashar Assad.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said, “His resignation highlights the failure in the United Nations Security Council of Russia and China to support meaningful resolutions against Assad that would have held Assad accountable for his failure to abide by the Annan plan."

"Those vetoes... were highly regrettable and placed both Russia and China on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of the Syrian people."

For its part, Germany said on Thursday that Kofi Annan's resignation was partly due to China and Russia's opposition to sanctions on the Damascus regime. German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle also said President Bashar Assad had not lived up to his vows to implement Annan's peace plan.

"It is clear that Kofi Annan relinquished his mandate in part because of the deadlock in the UN Security Council, of which Russia and China" are permanent members, a statement said.

"It is high time that Russia and China stop shielding" Assad, it said.

Annan’s words upon his abrupt resignation are fraught with secret fear, "When the Syrian people desperately need action, there continues to be finger pointing and name calling in the Security Council," Annan said. "It is impossible for me or anyone to compel the Syrian government and also the opposition to take the steps to bring about the political process. As an envoy, I can't want peace more than the protagonists, more than Security Council or the international community, for that matter."

Now with Annan’s resignation and the emerging void to be filled by a third party in order to resolve the crisis in Syria, Washington seems to be gaining firm foothold in the Security Council to push for a military invasion.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague has said the UK will increase the assistance it is giving to Syrian opposition forces in the coming weeks. In other words, the UK has already been giving out financial and military help to the insurgents in Syria.

British media confirm that military chiefs in London are already drawing up contingency plans if the UK ever decides to deploy troops to Syria and that the former Special Air Service (SAS) soldiers are training the insurgents in Syria in military tactics from weapon handling, leadership and the use of communications systems to tackle the Syrian government.

Colonel Richard Kemp, who led UK forces in Afghanistan, says the escalating civil war makes it very likely that the West would step in. It is estimated by military analysts that at least 300,000 troops would be needed to engage in a military intervention in Syria.

Col. Kemp said, “We do not always choose which wars to fight - sometimes wars choose us. Up to the point of Assad’s collapse, we are most likely to see a continuation or intensification of the under-the-radar options of financial support, arming and advising the rebels, clandestine operations and perhaps cyber warfare from the West.”

In another development, US President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing US support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar Assad and his government.

Known as an intelligence finding, Obama's order, which was approved earlier this year, allows the CIA and other US agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.

The White House has reportedly set aside USD 25 million for aid to Syrian insurgents, the State Department said on Wednesday.

The Obama administration initially allocated USD 15 million to help the Syrian rebels. However, some time ago, it added another USD 10 million to the amount available, department spokesman Patrick Ventrell said.

"The 25 million dollar number actually is the number we're working from," Ventrell told a regular daily news briefing.

A US government source acknowledged that in the light of the presidential finding, Washington was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.

Interestingly, the West has undergone a mystical experience in defining who the rebels really were. Until a few weeks or months ago, they described them as “a disorganized, almost chaotic, rabble” but now that they have entered into an unbreakable alliance with their pseudo-enemy al-Qaeda, they have fallen to confessing that the rebels have made “noticeable improvements in terms of coherence and effectiveness in the past few weeks”.

On July 27, 2012, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had built a secret nerve center in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles from the Syrian border to “help direct vital military and communications support to Assad’s opponents.”

The Turkish city is also home to Incirlik, a US air base where US military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.

In alliance with the West and Israel, the Saudi-led al-Qaeda elements have already started an all-out proxy war in Syria in the high hopes that the government of Bashar Assad will meet its doom soon. However, this is a figment of their imagination which they have nursed over years and the fire they have blazed will certainly engulf the entire region including Israel the US love child.

Dr. Ismail Salami is an Iranian author, Shakespearean, political writer, Iranologist and lexicographer.

This article was originally published at Press TV




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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

US will invade if the koch/norquist/haliburton/AFP/alec/tp puppet is elected

[-] 3 points by Iwonderwhy (19) 11 years ago

US will invade no matter what. Invasion of the middle-east was decided years ago. Just ask General Wesley Clark.


[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

So - what is your time estimate?
I would bet almost anything - if WE are not attacked by Iran & we don't have a
koch/norquist/halliburton puppet in the Whitehouse, we will not.

[-] 0 points by timirninja (263) 11 years ago

wrong submission people. War starts with provocation

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Doesnt matter who attacks us. It could be the Russians or the Canadians, its geting blamed on Iran.

Dems and Reps, these idiot politicians, dont make the deicisions to go to war. It based on money, follow the money.

[-] -2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Look at Obama. I dont believe for one second that Ghadafi allegedly threatened his people, so Obama sends in the jets, yet Assad is murdering thousands but he's fine with it.

Its all about money. Thats it. And the presidents have absolutely zero to do with money. They are there to manage public opinion.

[-] 2 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 11 years ago

It is amazing to me that the masses are unable to fit the pieces of the puzzle together. This country thrives on war, it is the machine that keeps this economy moving, businesses booming, and corporates rich.. Oil, land and resources....by any means necessary! So, why would anyone think things will be different now? There are always ways to create wars and people sit in the war-rooms and do just that.

I for one think your post is timely, and on point. I saw this coming but most believe whatever they want themselves to believe....illusions of peace.

We forget, this chess game between the most powerful of nations can be played by ways of any manipulative excuse or at any place (country) they see fit or come up with. Thanks for the info.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

Exactly. Which is why it boggles me to see otherwise intelligent people say it's about dethroning 'tyrants' and spreading 'democracy.' Ditto Libya and the rest of Africa.

[-] 2 points by Iwonderwhy (19) 11 years ago

Not only are we on the same page gn, but in the same sentence.

I think for "otherwise intelligent" people who can't admit to themselves that their own government would do harm to them or place them perilously close to retaliation by other countries, firstly, don't know their history... "for people who don't know their history are bound to repeat it"...and boy if we're not repeating history right now! Or, its just too hard for them to wrap their minds around it. A clear case of "Normalcy Bias". But Democide has been inflicted many times through history, by the elite, and we shouldn't think we're any exception just because we feel we are living in modern times.

I know, when I figured it out, I was devastated for weeks. But when you get through it, to the other side, life becomes somehow....more honest. I take nothing for granted any more.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

I think you're right, it's a form of denial. We're raised to trust the government and not question their motives, assuming they'll do what's 'right.'

Are you happier now that you know certain truths?

[-] 3 points by Iwonderwhy (19) 11 years ago

What a question! That's why you're more aware than most gn, because you're not afraid of asking the difficult questions.

For the most part, yes. For me, the sun shines brighter than it used to, the universe has a more wondrous intrigue, I see the inherent good in a peaceful humanity. I believe that most people want to live a peaceful healthy life away from a meddling government, and will help their fellow human being during hard times. That's not to say I don't see the negative characters when they appear. My already very intuitive nature became more-so, after 'the awakening'. One more tool to navigate through the subterfuge that disguises truth.

The only time I get down is when I think of my children. I look at them and just shake my head worrying about their future. ALWAYS my children.

They have one heck of a fight ahead of them to keep their freedom. What they have going in their favor is that I'm teaching them (within reason) the things I know. That they must always be politically aware, and never assume that their government is looking out for them...and so on. Makes for interesting dinner conversations. They're so smart. They never cease to amaze me.

Life is the polar opposite of what it used to be, but knowing the truth and dealing with life in its most fundamental reality is always the best. At least for me it is. So, on the whole, its all good.

You ??

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

I'm not sure I've ever been in the dark about what's really been going on. I'm not saying I've always known the facts, of course, as children we start off knowing very little about the world. I guess I had two small advantages. One, is that nonconformity, contrarianism, bucking the status-quo is in our DNA. If the crowd lines up to do something, we don't, just because they did. That's been good and bad, obviously, but I'd like to think mostly good. And my dad, well. See, he wasn't a very good dad, but the one gift he did give me was an analytical mind. I was an inquisitive kid and would ask my dad questions constantly. Instead of giving me the answers or some b.s. to blow me off, he's say, "Well, think about it." When I wasn't coming up with anything, which of course I couldn't, he wouldn't flat-out tell me, he'd help me along until I 'got it' all on my own. Many a 'lightbulb' moment, which was great. I can 'read between the lines' with the best of 'em, once my head has a little time to process what it's seen. And yes, I'm generally happy even if most the world is in a terrible mess and the end appears nigh. I still stop and smell the occasional rose.

How old are the girls?

[-] 2 points by Iwonderwhy (19) 11 years ago

One boy who's 11 and labelled 'gifted', and one girl who's 9 and smart as a whip. Don't get me going on my kids, I could talk about them for hours !!

One thing I'm a little worried about, and I should have listened to that inner voice years ago that said 'don't do it' when the school wanted to declare my son gifted and put him in a gifted class. They told me that no matter what, I could never get him 'undeclared'. He was going to be legally labelled gifted for life! Now...why would they have such a law? Why would a decision that was made about a kid at 7 years old have to be written in stone for the rest of his life?

Well, it didn't sit very well with me and eventually I tried to look into it. On one of the 'gifted' forums, I read a response to this very question. It was from a parent who said that "It was one of the last things Bush did before he left office. He made sure that anyone with the gifted status would never be able to change it because 'they' wanted to keep an eye on gifted learners for building future societies." I've searched, and I have no way of confirming this information, but if true...it sounds pretty spooky to me.

My boy loves the class, but, If I had it to do over again....

So sorry to hear about your dad. Its great that you can look to the positive. Funny how we have a tendency to remember the good memories after people are gone. If your posts here are anything to go by (and they are), sounds to me like your father laid a pretty good foundation for a life of learning.

Nonconformity is a word that we use too. I love it. Non-compliance is another word I really like.

I wish OWS would embrace that approach much deeper. I think non-compliance is something that has much less potential for violence and has potential for a much farther reach than protesting in the street, although I agree some protest is necessary in order to spread the word to the masses (IF it gets aired on MSM. Although, social media works good too).

The thing with non-compliance is that it has to be done en masse or people could get into trouble. If a few people decide not to pay their taxes, they're in a heap of trouble, but, if we ALL agree not to pay our taxes, the oligarchs have no choice but to listen to us. What are they going to do... arrest us all?

If a few of us decide not to vote, not much happens. If we ALL refuse to vote, that speaks volumes for lack of trust in our government. They would HAVE to do something.

If a few people put up signs naming the global elite on their front lawns, they would each have a fine to pay. If we ALL got a piece of cardboard and marker and wrote the names and abuses of these criminals and stuck them on our front lawns, they'd have no choice but to listen.

I wish we had this non-violent form of unity, but we're not there yet, although we could be. Hopefully we wake up more people to the exponential amount of POWER we really have. This, more than anything, is something I feel is sitting dormant among the masses. Not us here at OWS of course, we're raring to go! But the folks out there who don't tune in to these movements because of busy lives or just clueless as to what's going on. I hope we can catch their attention in time.

It is said that one only needs 10% of a population to successfully stand up against its government. Can we do this through social media before they censor it into oblivion ??

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

I was going to PM you and apologize about maybe getting too personal when I asked about your kids. Cool that I didn't step over the line. ;-) I was curious as to whether they were old enough to know the ugly truths or still at the age where you want to concentrate on just teaching them to think outside the box, question everything, etc. Still in the molding stage, I see.

That's bizarre about the 'gifted' label, I assumed it was informal, not something written in stone, but considering their penchant for labeling everything about us, I'm not surprised. Have to quantify everything, especially nowadays where we can assign it a value and run it through computer simulations. 'Grey areas' drive those people mad. And, yeah, I'm sure Bush and Co. want to keep an eye on the gifted. You know, like the PTB have always kept an eye on the intellectuals "to build future societies." The Soviet Union comes to mind, for some reason. heh heh heh

Nonconformity and noncompliance. Two good concepts, I think. What's frustrating is that if we were a nation of nonconformists, we wouldn't even be in this mess. And, yeah, we certainly do need massive numbers in some of those cases, like not paying taxes. That's not one I would suggest though, but I'll bet you were just using it as an example. The problem is getting enough like-minded people together, which is going to be OWS' problem in all their ideas. We're probably the most divided nation in history, which, as you know, has been their modus operandi for decades now. Damn they're good!

If I disappear shortly after posting this, it's because I need to start another useless project before I lose motivation tonight. Just looged on to check messages, but I may hang for a few. g

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Another parallel. Are you my long lost brother that was taken by the Gypsies?

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

Don't even say that shit, DK! ;-)

For years I was absolutely convinced I was accidentally switched at birth, since I'm so different from all my siblings. It gave me hope. Once I realized that I'm slowly turning into my dad, all hope was dashed.

Hey, now you've restored that hope. You made my day! A DNA test is now mandatory. A freakin' twinkle for you!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

LOL... LO...F'N...L - I always hated the thought that I might be like my Dad.

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

If you knew my dad, you'd realize how depressing that is. ;-)

Now, if you have a slightly younger brother that is unlike the rest of your family, and your mom was in a Kansas City hospital back in '58, . . .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

AHhahaha nope sorry Denver Colorado.

[-] 1 points by timirninja (263) 11 years ago

where tax dollars going to be spend http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/28/us-authorizes-advocacy-group-to-aid-syrian-rebels-build-up-opposition-army/ murder-murder-murder, kill-kill-kill!

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

Syria 'friends' fuel murder with promises of weapons for rebels http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYKoycVz2MI&feature=player_embedded#!


[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 11 years ago

OWS has been staging protests against just about everything else. War is the single greatest evil the .1% is creating and its impacting not just Syria, the Middle-east, but also everybody else in the rest of the world including us here in the U.S.. Not even to mention the moral woe, these wars are the single greatest driver causing world economic demise. It is time for OWS to actively start protesting against these wars. If OWS doesn't do it we all as individuals need to do it.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

Kofi Annan should be arrested for perjury, he was never a "peace envoy". It's all an evil charade.

[-] 2 points by Iwonderwhy (19) 11 years ago

Interesting...this could easily be true in our upside down, made up reality world. What compels you nomdeguerre, to make such a bold statement ?

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

The whole operation has been a scam from the getgo. The attacks on Libya and Syria were/are both hijackings of the Arab Spring uprisings, not motivated internally at all (or very little).

As I see it, Syria went along with the Annan mission to prove good faith, but that only fed the illusion that the opposing parties were honest.

The so-called rebels are mostly Al Queda fighters brought in by the US and NATO. We created Al Queda to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, apparently they are still ours. Wow. And of course the foreign fighters are fighting only for regime change as ordered by their masters so there was never any hope of a brokered peace.

Investigations of the Homs and Houla massacres that western media pinned on Assad have shown them to be false flag attacks by NATO's terrorist armies. http://rt.com/search/?q=homs+massacre http://rt.com/search/?q=houla+massacre

Kofi Annan was never an honest broker just an actor reading from an evil script.

[-] 1 points by Iwonderwhy (19) 11 years ago

There's a handful of people on this forum who are fully 'awakened'. You're one of them and I credit you for keeping the information on this forum real and removed from the few who try to hijack this flood of knowledge by getting us lost in issue after issue. We need to stick to the big issues like freedom, sovereignty, stopping war, ending the fed. The rest we can take care of once we have secured these issues. I'm sure you've heard the term "Go big, or go home".

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

We/OWS have to be "In it, to win it." Nothing less is acceptable.

OWS has been tremendously hurt by the "consensus" bullshit. It doesn't allow for growth or focused campaigns.

[-] 0 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

i dont know what is wrong with this guy Assad. he had learn from Libia and yet he trying to escape into the same trap. he should had made up provocation with civilian casualties long time ago. blaming terrorist group and bringing world wide media attention. i dont know what russian secret service agents told him, but it didnt work out yet.

[-] 0 points by funkytown (-374) 11 years ago

I fail to see how one would reconcile an abhorrence of war with a humanitarianism likely to cost the thousands of lives of the ruling elite; I fail to see how one reconciles an abhorrence of democracy with a desire to institute philanthropy.

[-] 6 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 11 years ago

You seem to imply that OWS wants to physically do away with the ruling class. Most of us do not want to kill people; we simply want to remove their means of power, which is the excess of wealth. Non-violent means, like a true, heavy progressive income tax can easily accomplish the goal.

Finally, most of us abhor faux democracy as we practice in this country, in which our choices are limited by the ruling class, who preselects the candidates for a major office, so in the end the "electorate" has a choice between A or B, and both A and B work for the purposes of the ruling class.

Real democracy is what most of us want, in which individuals collectively decide their own futures and the course of the nation.

[-] 0 points by funkytown (-374) 11 years ago

Sorry, I thought we were talking about Syria; those that comprise the ruling elite must number in the thousands? tens of thousands? And I don't think I meant democracy in the definitive sense; I think I had an American democracy in mind there.

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 11 years ago

Ah, I misconstrued your post. My apologies.

[-] -1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

nobody will post here. everybody tired of high prices of gas. in fact higher prices of gas increases coast of shipping, did you now that? i had talk to people , they want cheap oil, they wouldn like to have drill machine on backyard fracking gas out of the ground. isnt it sarcastically true?

[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 11 years ago


[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

no comprende? i just want this interesting post to be active =)

[-] 0 points by AllenT (2) 11 years ago

Lol !!!