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Posted 12 years ago on Sept. 28, 2011, 1:14 p.m. EST by Chef (9)
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Well I guess they figured out this protest is not going away, and ignoring it with a media blackout wont stop it. I guess they have escalated it to a media smear campaign.




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[-] 1 points by sooth (9) 12 years ago

here's a commentary on palesh's op-ed piece by liz berry. http://my.firedoglake.com/iflizwerequeen/ in the same commentary she notes palesh also appears to be a plagiarizer on another article.

btw, Palash R. Ghosh also wrote an article in free republic about ron paul in it he tried to deflect the criticism of him being a racist saying, "His adherence to libertarian values, and opposition to foreign military intervention and drug laws have won him the admiration and support among many liberals, especially among the youth." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2778970/posts

palesh is jsut an apologetic mouthpiece of the right.

[-] 1 points by npowell85 (249) from Montana City, Mt 12 years ago

the article wasn't that bad... he really only said that OWS is disorganized and doesn't have any specific demands yet. He also said if you did have a clear purpose for protesting he would support you, but without a clear message you are simply inconveniencing the every day members of the "99%" you supposedly represent. Many people feel this way. We want to support the cause, but there simply isn't one right now, nor does there seem to be any clear progress towards one.

[-] 1 points by npowell85 (249) from Montana City, Mt 12 years ago

I am aware of "the list".

13 Prosecutions of the guilty

You offer no evidence or names. Are we to just have a witch hunt of the rich people and assume they did something because they have lots of money?

12 Rights of victims must take precedent in courts.

No specific example have been given, and even if they did take you seriously and want to enact these changes, where are we to get the money to retro-fit every courtroom in the US with recording and dubbing equipment? You offer no solution to pay for the entitlements you request.

11 The United States must sign and ratify all human rights agreements with all other countries

Thats not asking much, just for global consensus. No big deal, they can knock that out next week. Also, the description and the title don't ask for the same thing so I don't know which one to argue...

10 Office of the Citizen

You want to create a giant new bureaucracy that is to independently investigate every accusation of local corruption. How do you pay for it? You accuse 60% of police of falsifying police reports and provide no evidence to back it up. And what does that have to do with Wall Street?

9 Equal rights for women

Women have equal rights now. You again offer nothing specific to base your claims on. Women's rights activists have been beating that drum for 200 years. If there is a problem you are not going to fix it by demanding it from this government, and you definitely aren't going to fix it by demanding it from Wall Street.

8 National Repeal of Capital Punishment

Has nothing to do with Wall Street or the financial meltdown. Can we please try and stay on topic?

7 Free Education Kindergarten Through College

You already have free education K-12 and theres no way to pay for every bodies college. Best we can do is guarantee that everyone will have the ability to get a government backed loan to go, and give them some extra cash to help with books, housing, and food. Oh yeah... we do.

6 End the War on Drugs

Great Idea! would save the country lots of money and create new tax revenue and jobs, and probably have more success driving down addiction rates than the drug war does. But, again, this is off topic and will likely drive away many potential supporters of your cause who agree with changing financial inequality but disagree with drug reform. Remember, not everybody is a hippie, but everybody is affected by the financial crisis.

5 Forgive Student Loan Debt and re construct the education system

You offer no specific way to pay for all the debt of the students or ideas for improving schools. The government is just suppose to take it upon itself to see that this is done to your satisfaction? How do we pay the massive student loan debt that the people currently have? That money has to come from somewhere. You are advocating that we take your student loan debt and spread it around to everybody then? So after I've paid off my student loans and my wife's, you want me to pay yours too? Thats not fair.

4 Restructure Campaign Finance Legislation

Very important for the future success of our country. But remove the word "fuck" from your vocabulary while talking about the changes we need to improve our collective lives. Seriously? Who wrote this stuff?

3 Forced Acquisition of the Federal Reserve for $1Billion USD by the US Congress

This doesn't fix the problem. The FED being private is not the issue. The issue is we have a debt based monetary system rather than a fiat one. Do some checking, I'm sure you will agree.

2 Repeal of the Patriot Act

Individual liberties are very important and this piece of legislation has set us further back than anything the government has done in recent times. However, it is not the fault of Wall Street, and it does not speak to the current problem. PLEASE PLEASE stay on topic

1 Eliminate Corporate Rights as Persons

This is what we need to be talking about. Only this. Start small and you could possibly make some kind of measurable progress.