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Forum Post: We shouldn't blame sharks for being sharks.

Posted 8 years ago on Nov. 19, 2011, 1:53 p.m. EST by danman2902 (5)
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Say you go to the beach and the lifeguard tells you that it is safe to swim, then when you jump in, you realize that you're surrounded by sharks and one bites you. Do you blame the sharks for doing what sharks do or do you blame the lifeguard for allowing you to swim in shark infested water? The problem with our society isn't corporate greed. In fact, I believe that we need corporate greed to promote innovation in our society. The problem with our society is the ability of corporate greed to influence policy decisions. I don't blame Wall Street's greed for our bad economy. I blame the government for not doing their job and protecting us. We shouldn't hate the player, we should hate the game. We need to take monetary influence out of the government. Decisions should be made based on public good, not on the good of certain interests. This should be the goal of the movement; to fix the system, not to blame sharks for being sharks.



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[-] 1 points by AuditElmerFudd (259) 8 years ago

I agree. Greed is a driving force. So there are many other reasons why people do things, and government being in bed with special interests has corrupted everything.

[-] 1 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 8 years ago

How about if the system is fundamentally unjust? The problem them is not to fix it (which is to say figure out how to make a basically unjust system work better) but to replace it.

[-] 1 points by occupypitt17 (24) 8 years ago

I agree 100%. To some dissenters: I don't think he/she is saying that Wall St. Is blameless. They deserve their fair share of blame, our main focus thoug should be on capital hill. We can fix wall street by fixing congress, and get more public support doing it.

[-] 1 points by jpbarbieux (137) from Palmetto Bay, FL 8 years ago

Except the 'Sharks' now own and run the government. They will never 'self regulate'. So what is the answer? GET RID OF THE SHARKS.

[-] 1 points by danman2902 (5) 8 years ago

Publicly funded elections. Without an apex predator, an ecosystem fails. Same with our society.

[-] 1 points by JOHNUSACITIZEN (62) 8 years ago

Senate Finance Committee call (202-224-4515), fax (202-228-0554)

Write: The Honorable Max Baucus Chairman Committee on Finance United States Senate 219 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, D.C. 20510

The Honorable Orrin G. Hatch Ranking Member Committee on Finance United States Senate 219 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, D.C. 20510

Chairman Max Baucus Ranking Member Orrin G. Hatch

Members: John D. Rockefeller IV WV Kent Conrad ND Jeff Bingaman NM John F. Kerry MA Ron Wyden OR Charles E. Schumer NY Debbie Stabenow MI Maria Cantwell WA Bill Nelson FL Robert Menendez NJ Thomas R. Carper DE Benjamin L. Cardin MD Chuck Grassley IA Olympia J. Snowe ME Jon Kyl AZ Mike Crapo ID Pat Roberts KS Michael B. Enzi WY John Cornyn TX Tom Coburn OK John Thune SD Richard Burr NC

[-] 1 points by JOHNUSACITIZEN (62) 8 years ago

Simply... Human beings are not sharks.

Human beings SHOULD be held accountable for the wrongs they commit against society.

Contact Information: House Commity on Financial Services Chairman Spencer Bachus Financial Services Committee 2129 Rayburn HOB Washington, DC 20515
202-225-7502 (CALL HIS OFFICE) Web Email: http://financialservices.house.gov/Contact/ContactForm.htm

Members (if one is your Representative, s/he is more likely to listen to you):

Spencer Bachus, AL, Chairman Jeb Hensarling, TX, Vice Chairman Peter T. King, NY Edward R. Royce, CA Frank D. Lucas, OK Ron Lawl, TX Donald A. Manzullo, IL Walter B. Jones, NC Judy Biggert, IL Gary G. Miller, CA Shelley Moore Capito, WV Scott Garrett, NJ Randy Neugebauer, TX Patrick T. McHenry, NC John Campbell, CA Michele Bachmann, MN Thaddeus G. McCotter, MI Kevin McCarthy,CA Stevan Pearce, NM Bill Posey, FL Michael G. Fitzpatrick, PA Lynn A. Westmoreland, GA Blaine Luetkemeyer, MO Bill Huizenga, MI Sean P. Duffy, WI Nan A. S. Hayworth, NY James B. Renacci, OH Robert Hurt, VA Robert J. Dold, IL David Schweikert, AZ Michael G. Grimm, NY Francisco "Quico" Canseco, TX Steve Stivers, OH Stephen Lee Fincher, TN

Barney Frank, MA, Ranking Member Maxine Waters, CA Carolyn B. Maloney, NY Luis V. Gutierrez, IL Nydia M. Velázquez, NY Melvin L. Watt, NC Gary L. Ackerman, NY Brad Sherman, CA Gregory W. Meeks, NY Michael E. Capuano, MA Rubén Hinojosa, TX Wm. Lacy Clay, MO Carolyn McCarthy, NY Joe Baca, CA Stephen F. Lynch, MA Brad Miller, NC David Scott, GA Al Green, TX Emanuel Cleaver, MO Gwen Moore, WI Keith Ellison, MN Ed Perlmutter, CO Joe Donnelly, IN André Carson, IN James A. Himes, CT Gary C. Peters, MI John C. Carney, Jr., DE

[-] 1 points by AuditElmerFudd (259) 8 years ago

We already have laws against fraud, deceptive advertising, misrepresentation, etc. More laws won't make bad people stop being bad.

[-] 0 points by JOHNUSACITIZEN (62) 8 years ago

You who choose to accept failure.

You who choose NOT to struggle to make things better.

YOU ARE USELESS... hopefully, you'll stap out of it, and start WORKING to bring about meaningful change rather than wallow in defeat---defeat before even trying.


WAKE UP, AND ACT, TRY, FAIL, but try and keep on trying individually, collectively. TRY

[-] 1 points by AuditElmerFudd (259) 8 years ago

Are you another Canadian posing as an American?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Corporate greed stifles innovation.

It always did.

Sharks tend to invade the beaches because corporations fished out all their regular food.

Poor metaphor?

[-] 1 points by danman2902 (5) 8 years ago

A lack of competition stifles innovation and it is the governments role to promote competition.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Individuals innovate.

Corporations stifle innovation.

Since this is true, governments need to regulate corporations for the good of individual innovation.

[-] 1 points by danman2902 (5) 8 years ago

A corporation is just a group of individuals who pool their resources to accomplish a goal, similar to OWS. They are a million times more efficient at innovation then a single individual. I agree that the monopolistic tendencies of corporations do stifle innovation, but that is where the government needs to comes in to regulate. Corporations are not inherently bad.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

I never said they were inherently bad.

I said they stifle innovation. They do so to maximize profit through market manipulation.

Innovation is still done by individuals, whether in a corporate or academic situation.

Don't believe it? Read up on what happened to Tesla.

Government needs to put a stop to that.

[-] 1 points by professorzed (308) from Hamilton, ON 8 years ago

Why not get rid of the sharks, and take our beach back?

[-] 0 points by Glaucon (296) 8 years ago

There will always be more sharks.

[-] 1 points by weepngwillo2 (277) 8 years ago

But we should be able to keep them out of the kiddie pool.

[-] 2 points by danman2902 (5) 8 years ago

Or keep the kids out of the shark pool.

[-] 1 points by ciavlad (85) 8 years ago

Do you want to get rid of cunning people !? Vote petition on the Internet : http://wh.gov/jkl

[-] 0 points by Barkode (105) 8 years ago

on the other hand when a Pit bull attacks a human, the dog will be put to sleep. Same goes for sharks: they can be sharks, cock suckers, Khazars or whatever they want, but when they try to bite my ass I'll do my best to spin them belly up ..