Forum Post: We Must Get Ride of Thrasymaque!
Posted 11 years ago on June 4, 2013, 9:36 a.m. EST by annoyeduser
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I'm using a fake name for fear of being attacked by Thrasy's bots.
I am a regular user with a high score. You all know and respect me. I don't post a lot now because I'm annoyed at Thrasy. That right wing republicon shill is destroying us! I hate him.
The onslaught and destruction Thrasy brings to this forum must be stopped!
I contacted a web programming firm and they said it would cost $2000 to fix the problem. I'm willing to pay $500 if i can raise the rest from you guys. I figure if 15 of you donate $100 each we are good to go.
We could pay jart or someone else. I don't care who programs this, I just want it done.
I have two questions.
1) Are you willing to chip in $100.
2) What's the best way to collect the money? We could send it to jart directly, to me or others who can collect it, whatever.
Let's take care of this guy once and for all!
WTF weak minded crap is this ?!!! If this shit isn't from Trashy, then it's from that other self-absorbed fukwit, 'ProblemCauser' (PS/FOB etc.) for sure & not so long ago lol, they were almost one and the same !! IF the poster really was ''a regular user'' who we ''all know'' then it wouldn't be scared of any Trashy-bots or need to use a ''fake name'' !
Ergo, this b-s forum-post is from Trashy or some other narcissistic feeble minded fukwit like 'ProblemCauser' - both of whom are clearly renowned cowards and onanists, on this forum !!
Get with the fkn programme and stop wearing your ass as a hat whoeverthefuck you are ! Is this forum-post a 'shake down' or something, lol ? Here, try to get your head around the real issues and stop your duplicitous, divisive and diversionary whining :
As Republicans move to cut billions of dollars in funding for food stamps, a new report finds one in six Americans live in a household that cannot afford adequate food.
e tenebris, lux ...
It's total crap, I agree. And, I got another PM from "beautifulworld" spelled with a capital letter I, or eye, for the letter l, or elle, in beautiful. Just a total waste of time. This forum needs some moderation.
I've tried twice now to reply to your below comment (Solidarity Odin), but it said "system malfuction" both times
Edit: This obviously got through as did other ones
~Odin~
Thanks, Odin. I've had that happen too. Oh, and notice all the deleted comments now that really should have been "removed" by moderators.
You're welcome. So PS is still here? Anyway Saturday at Zuccotti was a real nice day. Did you see the thread i put up about that day?
http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-is-not-about-a-park-occupy-gezi-diren-istanbu/
~Odin~
No. I didn't. I knew I missed something, lol. I'll check it out, thanks. And, good job, Odin. I'd have gone, too, but I don't live near NYC anymore.
You're welcome...thanks... good & too bad, but there are a lot of other nice places to live too
~Odin~
Excellent link. Thank you for good work and for http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-is-not-about-a-park-occupy-gezi-diren-istanbu/ and please also see - http://www.nationofchange.org/notes-nyc-occupier-taksim-square-1370354951 Never Give Up! Keep Occupying! Dayanisma :)
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Thing is ZD, ol' Trash-bucket serves a purpose here - but NOT the one he likes to imagine he does !!! Shouldn't say too much or else it will go to his head and he'll play up or he'll make out like Onan lol !! Suffice it here to say mate, look up 'agon' to probably get my point ! Also more pertinent to The 99% :
fiat lux ...
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I believe you are correct.
Perhaps not from the outset, but soon thereafter.
I don't see a word about anarchy here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O_Ao9w1u7c
But not long after that, the message changed.
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A wasted opportunity perhaps, but not because of Occupy. Occupy had integrity. The anarchists that started it followed what they believed in and moved forward with their ideas. That's integrity.
It's easy to look back upon hindsight and say it should have been this way or that way. To those people, I ask why did you follow Occupy the way it was? If you don't believe in anarchy, why did you support the protest? It's a little like going to a church and hoping the people will be atheists. It makes little sense. Occupy was anarchy from the beginning. It used direct democracy in general assemblies, the black and red colors of anarcho-communism, had no leaders, did not want to make demands and play into politics, etc...
Some people even complained because Occupy did not want to play in politics by making a political party. How ridiculous is that! It's as ludicrous as going to a chess club and complaining the people aren't playing checkers.
Those people should have started a movement of their own, or joined one that already existed in which they truly believed. They can still do it! If you join an anarchist protest, then you should respect that it's anarchy!
You can share the goal of trying to stop corruption in politics, but the means can vary quite a bit from group to group, from movement to movement. You seem to think the best strategy is to destroy the republican party, and that could very well be true. But, it's not Occcupy's strategy at all! Quite the opposite. Occupy wants to bridge the gap between the left and right wings to bring people together over common ground, to create the 99%, it doesn't want to widen it.
Personally, if I were you, I would feel much more at home being in some kind of political group which had the clear goal of destroying the republicans. Why don't you do that? Why come to a forum of a movement that you don't support on a fundamental level? You come here and keep attacking republicans which is not what Occupy is about. Again, it's like going to a chess club and telling the people they should play checkers. Just go to a checkers club!
This is just a question, not a criticism. You can of course do as you please. I just don't see how it makes sense and would like to understand.
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Because he'a an ass-hat and probable Corporate Shill and for the standing record :
'Anarchy' is his carefully chosen 'psy-op' trigger word, specifically designed to get a rise and malign and defame and divert and disrupt but your comment really has very much value here and sorry for butting in.
Also for the record, I'd better append a reminder of his hubris for us all here once again as a reminder :
e tenebris ...
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Lol & all we're doing is bumping his or ProblemCauser's shadow banned posts now but I will take the opportunity to link to this rather excellent and thoughtful comment by forum-poster, 'CamilleLouvet' which is very clear, concise and compassionate :
Solidarity 'Zdog' :-)
pax ...
Hmmm...thats an interesting take. Do you think that people can organize enough food for themselves without a top down power structure?
I ran into someone during MAM that told us all, arrogantly, that small farms cannot feed the people.
This sounds like that.
You dont think that communities would be able to work together and develop enough food systems to get the people fed? What on earth did we do when there was no super farms?
Do you realize that almost half of all food is wasted in this country?
Why do you think that an decentralized community cannot take care of itself?
Imagine the small farms and the ability to farm that they had in the past, with the technology of today.
I think it would be absolutely wonderful.
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This system simply does not allow that, through the media and through the politicians themselves....keeping people thinking that is the main goal. That is the mission accomplished of this system, keeping people feeling they are close. The carrot trick.
I dont see how you can slam anarchy and then claim that decentralized food system is the way to go, along with decentralized energy.
A centralized government simply wont allow those two to happen. Or it would happen right now.
And Im asking honest questions here- what aspects of centralized power in the government will be more beneficial to keeping the lights on and feeding people.
I honestly cant think of any.
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I dont see the people allowing that. That being said, its not exactly impossible at the rate we are going so who knows.
Someone told me a while ago that everyone forgets that the Dark Ages were after Rome, which was the greatest empire of its time.
And I agree that simple decentralize doesnt equate to anarchy, but its a major component that most everyone wants, regardless of what system.
We want local foods, we want local goods, local decisions on just about everything imo.
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''New Report Finds 1 in 6 in U.S. are Going Hungry'' (Video) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgpE6Wb4Rr8 .. is an excellent link and everyone who has an eye to the future should see http://www.nationofchange.org/forces-driving-america-s-education-spring-1369577132 and also http://www.nationofchange.org/more-red-ridinghood-protecting-children-our-pain-about-world-1370352593
We can be a http://www.nationofchange.org/ wherever we are if we get (dot) organised :) Never Give Up! Go Occupy!! http://www.nationofchange.org/notes-nyc-occupier-taksim-square-1370354951 !! Solidarity.
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I see that you are not over your bi-polar melt down yet, 'ProblemSolver' !!! So best of luck with with your 'schizoid-embolism' or whatever it is that ails you !! It's not sport to take the piss out of the afflicted and so I'll leave you to your manic 'deleting' again now ! Interesting too that you've nothing to say re. the link.
You see, annoyeduser, ProblemCauser, TrashyManque' - you're all the same to me ... Scum ! Geddit ?
temet nosce ...
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Not really, it makes you an imbecile that tries to use mental illness as a weapon. Nobody really gives a damn.
in California,
the disabled can be paid sub-minimum wage
proportional to what an "abled" body can produce.
Right-on
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Union YES!
Say It!
Say it LOUD!!
Or be an imbecile.
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You wish.
Now say it!!!
Or be an imbecile.
Union YES!
Obviously - U have no idea of what a bipolar disorder is.
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You should be banned for that comment and it just goes to show the depth of 'soul-lessness', dark heart and twisted brain, that you Abrahamic Mumbo-Jumbo believers (Jewish, Christian & Muslim) can suffer from. Still, it is a very revealing comment and given your propensity to delete your comments, like the two-bit, chicken-hawk that you are - I'd better copy your nasty, rancid comments here for posterity :
Your heart is hard and blocked, your brain is soft and curdled and yet your head is inflated with utter self-regard, lol. I've got more respect for a dog turd than for idiots like you and folk like you are living proof that there is no G*d OR if there is - he's a sick fuck ;-) & which ''we'' are you talking about btw?
I was just passing through on my way to OccupyIstanbul 'til I saw your bull-shit, whiney post so thanx for the lulz and yes, I'm ''single minded'' alright - for The 99% and always will be :-) & gd lk re. yr meds.
Very interesting too that because I'll defend Muslims, you ass-ume I am one because your heart is so blocked & your mind so small, that you believe that a person can't genuinely aspire to universal values.
Try to remember and reflect upon this 'ProblemCauser'' : ''The propagandists's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human'' (Aldous Huxley) & then find a mirror !!
nosce te ipsum ...
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The fact that you are still posting here does not speak well for the forum.
No it doesn't speak well for the forum if ProblemSolver is not banned
~Odin~
Solidarity, Odin. And, how was Zuccotti Park the other day?
Do I need an "E" ticket, to get on the ride?
I'm thinkin' they should be paying me to ride the__ (fill in the blank).
yes
do it for her
Oh.
I don't live near any Disney theme parks.
NO E ticket for me.
Do you have PayPal? If not, maybe we can arrange pay by check? $100 each isn't much to give back to this site considering we use it everyday and how important it is to Occupy.
Put up the approximate $3,000 that i have spent in trying to advance our struggle....and then get back to me
~Odin~
This isn't a competition. I also gave time and money to Occupy. If you don't want to help just say so.
Good thanks for your efforts. I't not a competition...true, it's about my bank account unfortunately...;-)
There are much better ways to spend $100 for this struggle, the Rolling Jubilee probably right at the top of the list...and as I have said I make automatic payments to it every month. Then there is contributing to the bail fund, buy a protestor lunch, etc, etc.
If this forum cannot handle a couple of trolls, especially now that we have better moderators...we are in trouble, at least on this forum
The way to deal with Thrassy though is by 'high-lighting' his deceptiveness....divisiveness, challenging him to prove his Occupy allegiance and using his twisted comments as a platform to tell him the way that it really is.
~Odin~
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So forget about the deceitful proposer, and listen to his ideas, right?
Thrassy as outgoing a person as I am, I have learned the hard way in life to be careful of who I trust
I would rather be burned on little things that aren't so important than to be so leery of people that it would have a negative effect on my life, but Occupy is different as I care much about the success of this movement, and at this point I simply do not trust you
All of your deception on here has consequences, so you should not be surprised that very few people take you seriously anymore
You do have had some good ideas, but people have good reason to be wary of them at this point in time since they are coming from you!
I mean, would you take a pill to lose weight from Hitler?
I suspect that you are a paid troll sent here by people who want to keep the corrupt status quo in place
Your attempts at creating divisions here between the administration and the posters on here have been numerous, and there is more divisions that you have tried to create as well
I gave you the chance to show your allegiance by criticizing the big bankers, .....as I suspect they are your benefactors.... with a series of hard-hitting threads to prove your allegiance to Occupy and you refused
If that weren't enough...when you took my identity, well that's when you lost me for good
~Odin~
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You misunderstand.
WE should be getting paid to put up with the so and so, and his house of puppet mirrors.
For all I know?
You could be one.
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Send your programming cure to jart - people can always donate to the site. She can determine if it is something that can be done.
I don't want to waste her time if people will not vow to chip in.
How do you know that you are wasting her time? How do you know that this site does not have a discretionary fund? Donations do get made.
The donation money for the site is at zero. That's why the server was changed. She said so. Asking her to study code if there's no money for the project is a waste of time. Do you want to help or not?
Where did she say that at again?
If you want to sell this idea - you should sell it to the site to begin with - then if it is something the site would like to do - the site can ask for donations - if needed.
Actually, that is a good idea. I thought everyone who hates Thrasy would support my idea. Maybe money is hard to find. I will write to jart. Thanks. GypsyKing.
GypsyKing? are you feeling well? your words have no imagery.today.
I should say by your phraseology you are not GK
My feelings are: we need to cut the crap, get along, and move on, and follow logic, and agree to compromise on some things, and not throw flames.
the trolls and most others have left this site. better at least keep those still here on their good behavior.
if they aren't against us they are for us. unite
but if there is continued fostering of division, just shun, ignore, the dividers, or call them out,
You are correct. That is not GypsyKing.
I know who this fucker is that signed my username here.
I haven't commented on this forum for quite some time, but I ran across this and would not let that slander stand.
Whoever you are (as if I didn't know) anoyeduser, you are not me, and you apparently carry a grudge sufficient to slander me here even after I have been long gone.
I also know that you want to draw me out to waste my time with endless juvenile tit-for-tat bickering, and petty accusations that I am a "flouncer."
You are a see-through, pathetic troll, and an infantile attention seeker.
And so in three words Tr@asy . . . go fuck yourself.
I never have and will never ask anybody in OWS for one red cent! And anyone, other then actual Occupiers engaged in actual occupations or other direct political actions who do so are most likely shills and con-men, as well as scumbags.
The movement is relatively quiet now, and so I am shifting my focus to underlying philospohical questions that I think may eventually be important for realizing our shared dream of an uplifted humanity.
The issues are far from dead but are growing in urgency every day, and we will see a poitical storm in the coming years.
When the time comes we will all be there. I am certain of that, and I will be there with you with whatever insights and revolutionary wreaklessness I can foster in the mean time.
Thanks to all of you for your inspiring dedication and goodbye again for now.
GK
Have fun in your quest for deep thoughts. I find coffee helps when reading and writing philosophy. I hope you come back and publish your conclusions so we can debate them in serious and polite manner. Make sure you stay away from conspiracy theory type thinking. Read people like Derrida, Foucault, Chomsky, Heidegger, etc... Stay away from Alex Jones and friends.
This posting is not from me. It's most likely from ProblemSolver. He came in and deleted all his comments as shadz66 will testify. Stop making accusations based on assumptions. Conspiracy theories are destroying America. Start using proper logic and research methods. Your fantasies and delusions don't help.
Mendacious, lying, perverted, scumbag = Trashymask of the thousand names - movement destroyer. Not one word out of your perverted mouth has one iota of credibility.
Over and out.
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Which total stranger do you trust enough to send money to? Ignoring someone works for free.
jart is not a stranger, and we can make a contract. You can't just ignore Thrasy. He's not a usual troll. People pay him to be here.
I wonder how hard it is to get a job that requires you to act like an ass. Sorry if I was flippant, I know harassment is often difficult to deal with.
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Include: shooz,DKAtoday,GirlFriday,shadz66,bensdad,Zendog,WSmith and all the other mindless democrat shills and you got yourself a deal.
Apparently you haven't read too many of shadz's posts, for if you had, you'd know he isn't a "mindless democrat shill."
Word.
I'll never understand why shadz keeps getting labeled a shill. This isn't the first time.
Who knows. Half these idiots think Im a tea party aficionado or some shit haha who knows.
Yeah, I see those comments directed at you all the time. Right-wing shill. ALEC and Koch brother supporter. Sheesh.
The best one is Bircher. I honestly didnt even know what the hell that was until someone called me one here ha!
On the streets Im called a communist/socialist and on here Im a Bircher....what a idiotic scenario we are in.
Bircher, . . . as in John Birch Society? Jeez, that's about as right-wing as you can get, I think. It doesn't take a lot of thinking to figure out what forum regular called you that.
On a somewhat unrelated note, back in the '70's, the John Birch Society was the beast responsible for spreading the lie that the peace sign was evil because it represented an upside-down broken cross. I remember my daughter was told that lie in Catholic school as recently as the late '80's or early '90's.
Holy shit. I guess the bracelets on my wrists are actually satanic symbols!! And I would have never known :)
You'd be surprised at the number of people that still believe that. I was on a different forum last year and tried to explain to some girl that it was a lie concocted by the right-wingers to help discredit the 'hippie movement.' I even suggested she check out the Wikipedia article about it. She essentially told me, rather rudely, "thanks for the 'history lesson' but I believe my own eyes. It looks like an upside-down broken cross, so it must be satanic."
The world's full of 'em, hc.
Ive honestly never heard that before either. Unreal.
I never heard that until my daughter told me. And I didn't know about the John Birch thing until that forum last year was discussing the peace sign on some new t-shirt designs. I was going to tell them what I knew about the origins but wanted to double-check first so I went to Wiki. When I was in school, I heard it represented the claw of a peace dove. Apparently there's a lot more to it than just that.
guano U can put that in Ur trashy-can.
You seem to be mentally challenged, therefore I won't insult you but I do feel sorry for you.
U can stick that in Ur trashy-can as well.
I apologize, are you afflicted with Tourette syndrome? Sorry again for causing you any mental anguish.
trashy-can U R a Pain