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It's not a secret that Culture Jammers and Adbusters are originally behind this. It was being discussed as far back as 2009 and the plan was to kick this whole thing off at the start of the 2012 election season. It's not secret and not a 1% conspiracy.
Who cares who started it? That makes no difference. It's more important to worry about where this ends up!
No advertisements... the 1% likes to get paid.
It only happens when you are not wearing your pie pan helmet. When you do it spells R on P aul
Ron Lawl and I had my pie pan helmet on :-)
The person who runs this site is named "Justine Alexandra Roberts Tunney", and they have published the source code for the website on github.com here:
github.com/jart/occupywallst
You will notice that the headline, or "motto" for the project there reads as follows:
"Stomping out capitalism, one line of code at a time"
Since the ideology which most vociferously speaks out against "Capitalism" is Socialism, it is quite likely that the maintainer of this website is a Socialist.
I would be quick to point out that capitalism is not an "ism" at all, rather an unavoidable result of the consequence of posessing things.
Note also that "posessing" is not a legal construct which can be debated -- but a physical fact having to do with who's hands an object is within or controlled by.
The example I have previously given was this:
If you have a broken car, and you ask me to fix it because I have expertise in fixing cars, and you then trade me two ears of corn for my labor...
Then I have 'capitalized' on my labor.
If you then turn around, and trade that newly repaired car for two pigs, then, lo and behold, you have /capitalized/ on my labor, in much the same way that I did.
The difference being, you /posessed/ the car iteself, which repsresents a much greater amount of labor input than my repair, and were therfore able to obtain a higher 'price' for it.
Question is this: Did you ''exploit" me?
And another question:
Is it even physically possible for a socialist system to prohibit and prvent such transactions as I describe above, or, as I propose:
Is opposing and "stomping out" capitalism futile?
Thanks for the info ScrewyL. So, this means there is no chance the censors will be lifted unless we convince "Justine Alexandra Roberts Tunney" him/herself.
One step at a time, we need a leader and we need Ron Lawl and we need him fast ...
Why RonPaul?
What has he done for anyone in the last five years?
Has he exposed the Fed for criminally bankrupting the economy?
Has he exposed the Congress for allowing laws to be passed that made it legal to bankrupt the economy?
Yes and Yes
Has he really? I better buy him a beer then.
Buy?! How capitalist of you. -.-
I build houses, ScrewyL.
You want one? I don't do this job for free.
At what point did you reach an assumption that I don't work for a living?
need him for what? Not sure destroying 5 gov't departments, then eliminating all income taxes, abolishing the fed, then taking up the gold standard makes sense after the pot wears off.
I mean really, what are you Paulite looneys smoking?
which is why he favors legalizing pot.
And now that I think about it, I could probably edit the code to undo the Ron.Paul renaming script. uhg, project for tomorrow.
You probably could, assuming it's within the code and not the configuration -- however, were you to do that, you would need J.A. Roberts Tunney to perform a pull request.
His or her e-mail address is jtunney @ lobstertech.com
We will have to occupy his email address until he accepts the code change then ;)
lolz
Interesting that it was purchased on July 14th 2011
Why? Spell-it-out we dont' have time for eyEbrow raising, these are serious issues!
"In a July 13, 2011 blog post, the Canadian-based Adbusters Foundation, best known for its advertisement-free anti-consumerist magazine Adbusters, proposed a peaceful occupation of Wall Street to protest corporate influence on democracy, a growing disparity in wealth, and the absence of legal repercussions behind the recent global financial crisis." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street
Yes, thank you.
Equally telling is the three languages which this site has been translated to (in the upper right corner of the page):
French, English, and Spanish
YW :) Hmm... didn't notice the translation options...
It's just interesting! They thought of it a few months before launch!
I was wondering that myself. I see they used whoisguard.
NS History: 1 change on 2 unique name servers over 0 year. IP History: 4 changes on 3 unique IP addresses over 0 years. Whois History: 72 records have been archived since 2011-07-15 . Reverse IP: 1 other site is hosted on this server.
Domain ID:D162782714-LROR Domain Name:OCCUPYWALLST.ORG Created On:14-Jul-2011 11:47:00 UTC Last Updated On:13-Sep-2011 03:52:13 UTC Expiration Date:14-Jul-2012 11:47:00 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR) Status:OK Registrant ID:d40473b7f9ca786e Registrant Name:WhoisGuard Protected Registrant Organization:WhoisGuard Registrant Street1:11400 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 200 Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Los Angeles Registrant State/Province:CA Registrant Postal Code:90064 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.6613102107 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX:+1.6613102107 Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email: Admin ID:d40473b7f9ca786e Admin Name:WhoisGuard Protected Admin Organization:WhoisGuard Admin Street1:11400 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 200 Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:Los Angeles Admin State/Province:CA Admin Postal Code:90064 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.6613102107 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX:+1.6613102107 Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email: Tech ID:d40473b7f9ca786e Tech Name:WhoisGuard Protected Tech Organization:WhoisGuard Tech Street1:11400 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 200 Tech Street2: Tech Street3: Tech City:Los Angeles Tech State/Province:CA Tech Postal Code:90064 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.6613102107 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX:+1.6613102107 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email: Name Server:NS1.LOBSTERTECH.COM Name Server:NS2.LOBSTERTECH.COM
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