Forum Post: We do need to protest Fox News!
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 27, 2011, 10:32 a.m. EST by frankchurch1
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O'Reilly went off about our 'violence' in Oakland. Not the police violence, it's always us who started it.
Those thugs at Fox news need to see our upraised fists.
Here's the problem with protesting Fox:
We need to be smarter than they are, and more clever.
Currently, Fox holds the upper hand, not because they are wealthy and powerful, but because operating at a higher and more self-aware iteration of media and public relations theory.
Crowd of angry protestors, fists upraised=straight men
Fox=makes a mockery of our efforts, edits and lies as need be and does it all with a wink and a nod, the irony well understood by their audience
It's the ironic self awareness that is crucial here. Goebbels knew it well. And here I part ways with most media critics, who insist that Fox is an old-style PR or propaganda outfit designed to straightforwardly bamboozle low-information proles in the heartland and suburbs.
That does not give the American right-leaning media consumer enough credit.
Ailes and Murdoch learned well from the antics, mockery, street theater and Yippie circus of the 1960s. They combined this with the PT Barnum strain of lollapalooza that's as old as the USA.
You can't do an old-school po'-faced serious protest against Fox because FOX IS ITSELF A PROTEST. Fox is Yippies for the right wing. Their absurd, Onion-worthy parody of a news outlet--which the likes of Steven Colbert can never catch up to despite his best efforts--is a way for the conservative movement to turn the media-savvy, wise-ass spirit of the 60s left back upon itself.
OWS must out-fox Fox itself, not fight the last war.
Not to mention that if you protest Fox then they get the attention they so desperately want.
It might be better to render them as not relevant.
They really don't want that kind of attention. They themselves love to stir that pot of controversy but over different diversionary things and definitely not whether or not they truly are fair and balanced. They don't want that subject aired.
And most here know they are far from fair and balanced. Why's that? I'll tell you why, we've been protesting them for about as long as when they first came on in 1996 fevering after Clinton. They hated Clinton with a passion. Fox News was right there cheering on the impeachment proceedings. I guess 25 million new jobs for the robust economy of the 1990s with no deficit but a surplus wasn't good enough for the republicans. This was right about when Rush Limbaugh reared his ugly racist head complaining about anything democrats do and then praising everything the republicans don't do.
Faux News. Knee deeep
Puzzlin, it would require big boots. They would love nothing more than to play the victim.
That and a ladder I'm afraid, they are filled with it so much, might just go straight for a boat (with paddles hopefully).
LOL :--))
As much as I would like to proverbially burn down Fox...
I think we should continue what we've been doing and try to out media, the media. We have tools and technology that activists before us never had. We need to continue utilizing our knowledge of technology to flood the internet with information, images and video. What we need to do is get our own PR group going to counter act all the garbage and blatant lies some of these media outlets are putting out.
Yes, use the technology. This can be our biggest unlike any other movement. It surely can lead this movement to success!
Very true. I've been thinking of one way to out-fox fox, which is to get high speed internet everywhere, so people can get their tv from the internet and not be limited in choices by the FCC. Long term goal =)
This is just the start of the real war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA
ANONYMOUS GOES AFTER FOX NEWS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQc3vgqHFQI
The hacktivist organization Anonymous is going to take down the Fox website on November 5th. Now there are plenty of valid reasons to go after Rupert Murdoch's media organization, but Anonymous is defending the Occupy Wall Street movement and going after Fox. Since Fox News has no problem attacking the Occupiers, it was only a matter of time before this movement actually spread to the media headquarters itself - 26 October 2011
Rupert StMurdoch is a liberator of minds.
Our wholly-owned subsidiary, the Chase-NYPD , will vanquish you unruly mobs if you dare darken the doorstep of the Fox News Empire.
Opinion is fact! Lies are truth! Ignorance is strength!
You are so right !
Yes. Where do I sign.
Y ur at it do CNN to.......PLEASE!!!!!!!
The mainstream media becomes more irrelevant by the day.
No, they do not.
That was so awesome. Really fucked them up
We have our right to peaceably assemble. But that does mean peaceful. When we insist on doing something that breaks another persons rights, its not peaceful assembly anymore. Like for example, if we block a road and it keeps other people from using it. Then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights for them. If we take a park and keep the kids from playing in it on the swings, then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights that we took. when we blockade a port and close it and keep people from earning their paycheck, we are stealing their rights and the state can come in and take back their rights for them that we took. When we break a window, deface property, take down a fence as in Oakland, don't for once pretend that we're being peaceful. reality check here. Im all for doing this, Im in a local camp, but don't spout hyperbole and that the state is violating our rights. they are not. They are taking back rights for other people that we took with our occupation. Just to be clear. peaceful assembly does not equal forceful occupation. We are forcefully occupying. so far the cities are being really good about working with us so we can get the message out by occupying. But its real fine line we are walking, and when one too many citizens gets pissed they can't use their park that we took, or they can't drive down a road to visit their mom in the hospital, we're going to have to understand that we started this. Lets be clear, we are breaking the law. Not that we should stop, but we should stop whining about people wont let us break the law. And just do it, just occupy, knowing that we are. Don't rationalize the occupation as lawful. Its not. But we might just might be doing the most moral thing anyone's done in decades.
Is Anonymous aware of this site?
http://shutfoxdown.com/
Anonymous needs to take down their broadcast capability.
Murdoch admits manipulating Fox New for his own political agenda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K2pLo8JV5Y
Murdoch only has to utter "go away" and the entire Fox news brown shits will discredit and destroy the occupy movement.
The question is, why hasn't he slammed back at you guys harder? It is my thoughts that he wants to keep you guys around because it is good for HIS business.
You need to make it bad for his business. The only way to do that is to push his hand. Shame Fox News into showing it's colors.
Bugger that, I want my simpsons
And family guy. I haven't watched the new ones. But, they would probably be better on a second Comedy Central network anyway.
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Not to mention they are hardly a real group and all they do is overload systems via DOS, which is not hacking. Anyone can do that.
I don't know if hacking is a good tactic, but I like it..lol
It is a counterproductive strategy unless you are using it to make data or emails public.
Find all of the emails sent back and forth through the halls of Fox News.....now that would be a job.
The leader of Lulzsec still has all the e-mails that were on the server for The Sun(a british tabloid owned by Murdoch).
He still hasn't released them.
My lord, do the same thing to the Heritage foundation, Fox News, the Cato Institute, Koch Industries, Herman Cain, ad infinitum.
That would be great..
But they did it via exploiting weaknesses on their server..
It's called a SQL Injection.
Not sure if you're familiar with it.
I think if we want data from those other organizations, we'll need to go old fashioned undercover. Some determined, young lefty will need to get their degree in Political Science and IT (or whatever their web sites say they are demanding), build up solid conservative credentials for their application, infiltrate, collect, and leak.
If we could find such a liberal at around 17 years old, I alone would put $10,000 in the pot for them to collect when they succeed.
Hacktivism.
Frank, I need your help here http://occupywallst.org/forum/artist-wanted/. We need to fight back.
Remember remember the fifth of November... AWESOME. Anonymous you rock.
myspace starts with public web access profiles unlike facebook
I really don't understand the FOX hate. They do have a lot of dicks on their channels (though they did dump Beck). BUT study-after-study has shown their 6 and 7 o'clock news shows are unbiased, with 38% favorable stories for both sides.
In contrast ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS had 70% favorable toward Obama/ democrats and only 40% favorable toward McCain/ republicans from 2008 to 10.
If you hate bias in your news, then go after the channels that actually ARE biased (and in the case of NBC, received 10 billion of bailout from the current administration). Or just boycott all the channels.
IMHO.
Lies are truth!
Opinion is fact!
Spin is analysis!
Fair & balanced is FOX!
Vote the Second Coming 2012!
Thank you Lord Reagan for the blessings we are about to....blah blah blah.
Fox news is the Brown Shirts of the neoconservatives and should be sabotaged, embarrassed, and harassed by all legal methods.
"BUT study-after-study has shown their 6 and 7 o'clock news shows are unbiased, with 38% favorable stories for both sides."
Fair and Balanced for 1 hour a day??
Also, the one hour during the day that they probably have the least viewers??
Fox new should be charged with Treason. It tantamount to falsely shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. They should be charged and held accountable.
And the second list: http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news-sponsors/fox-sponsors-m-z/
Funny how people have gotten this idea before for other reasons and we now have even more reasons to support them.
http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news-sponsors/fox-sponsors-a-l/
Fox news sponsors.
There are more people who want to boycott Fox News (for all kinds of reasons).
Fox news SUCKS!!! They have bee irrelivant for years now.
Blondie,
They're irrelevant? Fox News viewership for October 2011 was more than CNN, MSNBC, and CNBC combined. I wouldn't even look at the primetime ratings if I were you...
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/31/cable-news-ratings-for-friday-october-28-2011/109077/
Yea they should add a link to Fox News executives and talking heads at Occupy the Boardroom.
We're going to! Current list of new targets for OTBR 2.0 includes Newscorp, Walmart, BP, Verizon, Halliburton, Monsanto, and REBNY (the real estate lobby trying to change the laws about public-private parks to outlaw occupations like the one at Liberty Square). Any other suggested targets? We'd love your help in thinking up new targets and digging up their info!
Koch Bros.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to put McDonald's Corp. on that list, although my reasons may seem trivial. I stopped going there years ago when they were caught rigging their "Monopoly" game by skimming the winning tickets off the top and having relatives of the corporations cash them in. I figure as much profit as McDonald's makes every year, the fact that they would further rip off the consumer infuriates me. Not to mention some of their other business practices. I boycott any company caught ripping off the consumer.
Rupert StMurdoch is a liberator of minds.
Our wholly-owned subsidiary, the Chase-NYPD , will vanquish you unruly mobs if you dare darken the doorstep of the Fox News Empire.
Opinion is fact! Lies are truth! Ignorance is strength!
haha
Can I get an upvote?
Fox news, America's neighborhood scold, their motto actually is, Fair and Balanced When We Remember to Take our Happpy Pills, Now give me back my binoculars I'm peeping.
Funny how so many of the viewers came to this forum to argue against the concept of "fairness", isn't it?
Fairness is only for some. For the "more equal", lol.
Their mothers never taught them fairness, They fear the very tools that would be required to improve their own economic situation, first of all is getting along with others, trust, respect for education and experience, learning from history, a healthy society, mass market advertising, the internet, and their fellow man, also known as the customer base. They fear the very things that might allow a group of young individuals to start their own corporations and compete with the monopolies. That's all they've got left to throw up as a smokescreen against their realization that more amenable corporations are cropping up around their ears and they don't have the knowledge or energy to compete, so they scream like little girls at anything that looks progressive because they are also too lazy to learn anything new. Actually learning and growing are nausiating to them.
They've always been the most blatant liars. Ridicule works the best.
Go after their sponsors. Besides Boycotting the sponsors and spreading bad word of mouth against them, contact the sponsors and let them know why.
Never underestimate the power of Boycott to change and persuade. Peacefully and legally of course.
The Glenn Beck advertiser boycott that Color of Change organized was pretty damn effective. I would be on board with doing something liek that.
I'm organizing something.
It's about time....
The pressure put on Glenn Beck's sponsors was pretty effective.
We should start a campaign like that, in addition to going down to their locations.
Protesting is one thing; trying to shut down their website however is an assault on free speech. It also, in a backhanded way, validates their views; it creates the impression that you can't refute them or challenge their claims so instead, Iike a totalitarian despot, you try to silence them. Questions about morality aside, censorship is just a bad idea strategically.
fox news is weird. its a depressing sign of the times...
I heard this story - I do not know if it is true: If the Rupert Murdoch scandal forces him to step aside - turning it over to his son - his son hates Ailes and what he made of Fox - and he will stop Fox anyway
Thanks to Glenn Greenwald, I recently learned that Police Commissioner Ray Kelly's son is an anchor on Fox Five, the local NYC Fox affiliate.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/o-m-g-it-really-is-a-fake-wall-street-protest-impo/
We should be kissing the firmament and thanking Jesus that we have Greenwald on our team.
He's the ethical Breitbart.
I watch a lot of news but I always turn to fox because they will print story that the others like CNN will not even touch. So, they do have a place over the Government run media. I think it is good to watch both.
First we need to stop calling it News.
Fox is ideologically driven to produce propaganda
Maybe we should call it Rupert Murdoch's Righ-Wing Ideological spin machine that uses public airwaves to shape public thought.
Oh right and the rest of mainstream media is not a whore mongering propaganda machine of the liberal political in this country. Idiot!
hahahaha you retards
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I agree totally. They repeat their lies so much over there they become out of touch with real reality.
Propaganda is the tool of tyrants
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-war-with-america-was-won-before-the-first-shot/
Yeah, why not??? They seemed to have a negative and warped spin on everything. I stopped watching them over two years ago!
Fox 'News' is full of jokers like O'Reilly - ALL the networks are, well democracynow.org and others dig a little deeper.
If you really like to change things, please click the following link and start a campaign to get millions to sign it......Thanks.
http://www.change.org/petitions/members-of-congress-and-senators-fix-the-economy-and-balance-the-budget-now?pe=d4e
Balancing the budget will wreck the economy. We need massive demand put back into the economy. That will take much more government spending. It cannot be avoided. You get more money by taxing the rich and by massive military cuts.
yes, let's protest anything that doesn't give us that golden pure democrat party "truth". I say down with anything that doesn't kiss Barack Osamas Ass
Make a list of advertisers and boycott them and at the same time let them know why you will not purchase their products. It is all about money and Fox gets it from corporations.
Boycott all FOX new, shows and especially their sponsors and across the country !
Mainstream media needs to be educated. The best advice is to act rather than react. Have some people from OWS contact the newspeople who seem to be mis-informed and sit down and do interviews. Call in to live shows and talk with them.
A nice surgeon taught me something very valuable, "never attribute to malice, that which can be explained by stupidity".
Never assume they are doing it deliberately, they are going with the knowledge they have. (which is sorely lacking in many cases). To change that we need to educate them.
See, I knew the rapist was not one of us. Lying ass media.
Fox has lied to Americans for years, and it is not only disgusting, but I believe it is criminal. I would love a chance to actually talk to some fox news anchors without the threat of being interrupted or having my responses edited in any way. Doubtful, but we can always hope.
Yea, when their liberals talk about killing Julian Assange you know they suck.
Assange is actually our mentor.
Ignore O'Reilly.He's an unimportant puppet.Other things more important need to be adressed besides this ridiculous man who makes money by spreading hatred and rage.We have a lot to achieve and this surely isn't the moment to bother with a selfish bandit.I repeat ignore him.His words mean nothing to us ,do not be afraid as he is not able to influence anyone anymore.
Ignore O'Reilly.He's an unimportant puppet.Other things more important need to be adressed besides this ridiculous man who makes money by spreading hatred and rage.We have a lot to achieve and this surely isn't the moment to bother with a selfish bandit.I repeat ignore him.His words mean nothing to us ,do not be afraid as he is not able to influence anyone anymore.
Fox is at 48th and Sixth (1211 Ave. of the Americas). Some of the studios have translucent windows on 48 (the windows used to be totally clear but they seemed embarrassed over their lies). We should make our presence known there.
Fox and Friends goes outside on good days. Get them signs up there.
Ridicule will work the best with something like Fox.
Like so:
http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Charts/cable-news-may-2011.jpg#Fox%20News%20hates%20the%20left
yah, we is boycotting all of the fox advertisers, even from the entertainment, that's how the sly fox operates... boycott all of their advertisers....
list of fox news sponsors -- http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news-sponsors/
fox news supports killing atheists http://foxnewsboycott.com/
Here's how bad they are. Even Fox Sports lied about the Chicago Bears. lol
here's another one
http://turnofffox.org/
As much as i love.... oh wait, they only broadcast crap. But Americans love it. Thus proving we cannot govern ourselves and we need a plutonomy. Go Plutonomy!
All corporate media is complicit in covering up war crimes.
we need the fairness act again that Reagan eliminated
Fox news and everything related need to get people watching their crap so people like O'Reilly are employed to anger the population and therefore it increases ratings via anger emotional influence. If we have issues with fox and their fallacies, we must rise against it, fight back, boycott, anything fox news related, stop watching tv, and listen to what people are saying. FOX is desperate, they are losing fans and the only option they have is to gain fans via negative influence. This type of media will only see doom in the future, if people all feel this way then we must ignore those folks, and leave them talking to themselves on tv.
They don't deserve protest; just simple boycott and ridicule.
There seems to be so little attention given to Fox News and the pernicious influence it espouses and propagates, I really hope Anonymous has some luck with this attempt. It would be better than Christmas if Fox went down, at least for a little while. Fox and conservative talk radio are the most destructive, bigoted elements in the national dialogue. They represent everything OWS seeks to remedy, IMO.
Frank you stupid fuck! The protesters are the ones who started the riots NOT the police!
Not according to the media or the Mayor. Government lover.
So we're going to protest and threaten Fox and possibly become violent because they reported that we became violent in Oakland and it resulted in the police clearing the streets. Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?
We are non-violent.
We may claim to be non-violent, but who are we really kidding? There has been violence and conflict since this has started, rampant lawlessness, drug use, accusations of rape, assault on law enforcement, public defecation and urination, destruction of property, and on and on! None of these activities do anything to help the cause, and it may be only a few nuts in the crowd but it makes all of us look bad and is much more widespread than it should be allowed if we are to garner a positive image. Much of America already is developing a negative opinion of all the park protesters. These are issues that need to be addressed and don't seem to be, and this is already in it's 7th week!
Occupy Fox News November the 5th!!!
Where is Glenn Beck when you need him?! I want him back on air!!!
Apparently, bottles were thrown at the police or that is one report. I wasn't there and you probably weren't either, so neither of us knows. I support the Occupation but like to be objective.
You should set up in front of the studio and each of you should wear a placard with something stupid, some like, that has been told by Fox. Of course, you might need about a million of those placards, but you get the idea.
The goal is to get cameras on you and on the messages. Fox news lies because it gets away with lying.
Occupy Rush Limbaugh.
Na, too many drug dealers in that neighborhood.
I'm in! I have a couple of paintings that deal with FOX news directly and cruelly. You can view them at http://www.artandresponse.com/.
Fox News is entertainment news. They have a product to sell. Protesting Fox News and giving it any recognition that it represents a "news" organization is giving this corporation far to much exposure for what it is not.
It's time to go after their sponsors.
The best advice I can give is not to give any recognition that Fox News is a "news" program. It is purely entertainment. Once you give recognition to anything you give it legitimacy. Call this program by its correct name and it will not be recognized as a "news" agency. The producers have formatted an entertainment program to look like a "news" program. I wouldn't waste my time being diverted by anything foxy entertainment corp. puts out over the air waves. Keep your eye on the target and don't let gnats bother you.
The other media actually think they are news. Remember, the White House allows their reporter to be in the front row.
Fox will get it on Nov. 5!!!!! http://therevolutionarytruth.tumblr.com/
Fox News is adding fuel to the fire. They cannot brainwash us any more.
O'Reilly is a dinosaur, sensationalist ass wipe, and is always trying to be outrageous so the other news and talk (junk) shows pic up on it. Then they loop his comments endlessly so we have to look at his goofy face on every news program for two or three day. Then if all the freak-in morons start emailing and writing comments about what ever jack ass statement he made to get noticed, then.......... then were really screwed because they put him on the fu_kin talk show circuit. So he's on the Today show, then he's on freak-in regis and Kelly, then he's on the lesbian show, then he's on the gay show, skip Oprah, then the tonight show, then letterman. This is a plan by the 1% I know it is, they'll keep jam-in this crap down our throats until we're all in such agonizing pain from looking at bill O'Reilly that we force legalized euthanasia on congress in a rush attempt to mercifully put us out of our misery!
I challenge Hannity to a winner take all boxing match. He looses and he makes everyone breakfast in his shorts, in the dead of winter. HE WILL LOSE!!!
Mike Malloy wants to whip him.
I think Fox's ratings are fine
Ratings for Hitler in Germany were good as well.
We need to stop watching fox news and in general cancel tv service.
The website is nothing. They need to take down the TV streaming. That's where the revenue comes in and the audience that is reporting.
The right attacks, the left consoles.
And in the end, you are still stuck with two 100% corrupted parties running the country for the bankers.
Classic.
Protest the Media. Demand a portion of the Public Airwaves be returned to the public.Give Michael Moore,Glenn Greenwald,Dan Choi,Noam Chomsky, Chris Hedges airtime.
Bob McChesney's idea is for the government to subsidize newspapers.
Bob McChesney also advocates for public and community radio and television which works to keep people informed and engaged in Sweden, Finland,Iceland, and Denmark.When people are better informed you tend not to have pointless wars and staggering inequalities like the U.S. has.
I thought government spending didn't work? haha
We should have a national public radio station!
oh, right.
If people wanted to listed to that drivel then there would be a market to sustain it. Alas, there is not.
I guess you have never heard of Pacifica Radio for the 99%. Check it out. It is a non-profit so their is no market objective like Making money and manufacturing consent for winner take all capitalism and endless war.
I'm iffy about the general strike. I think you have to educate people about what a general strike is before you impliment one.
Americian Dad Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu-36NrIN70&feature=related
I watch fox news as long as I can stand it so I know what the morons at work will be talking about and I can research anything they say(bullshit) so I am properly informed unlike 70% of Indiana peoples or more
Just go to Politifact, everything Fox news hosts say get Pants on Fire ratings. lol
Divide and Conquer- until you get out of R vs L thinking, and realize that the ENTIRE media is bought, to either support or oppose ANYTHING, then nothing will change
Including NPR. They should never fired that girl just because she was at an Occupy rally.
I used to watch Fox News, years ago, them I switched over to CNN. Now, I am moving over to MSNBC. I am a newly minted Rachel Maddow fan. [waves, "Go Rachel!" banner]
I recall that a producer at Fox 5 could not name one of her U.S. Senators. Fox attacks the intelligence of OWS supporters. Isn't it time we challenge Fox News producers and executives to a comprehension test; covering math, science, history and Government? I would love to see how many big shots, at Fox News, can tell me about the Quasi War, name the first President of the United States, tell me the difference between mass and weight, explain the circumstances and causes of the Whiskey Rebellion, give me the common symbol for the nominal acceleration of gravity, then tell me if, according to an interval scale, six plus six must equal twelve? I bet it would be a laugh riot! [grin] Oh, add to the list, name the current U.S. Senators, from your home state and all of the U.S. Senators, currently in office, in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut? [giggle]
Bill Maher: "Not all Republicans are dumb, but most dumb people are republican."
Great Post! Let's see how they all react to 6/16/02: http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
omg fox 5 channel five NY used to have actual people from NYC anchoring the morning news shows
We used to watch while getting ready for school & work in my house, loved those people!
Now it is just Fox clones. We used to have NY diamonds-in-the-rough, now we have what looks like lab-created news readers.
We can try to digitally occupy Fox News. Go anywhere you can leave comments on, their Websites, their YT channel, their affiliates websites, and Newscorp owned newspaper websites (WSJ, NY Post). Believe it or not there are a few reasonable people there that can be reached out to. Just counter all their propaganda in a respective tone using facts and links so that you won't be automatically dismissed as a far left crazy.
LOL maybe we should go troll all the comments in a real crazy manner.
That would hilarious.
Something like certain people are doing here, but taking it to an even higher & funnier level of trolldom.
The problem is they think rationality is crazy.
Maybe 5% to 10% won't. I met some people who admitted to being ex-Fox News kool aid neocons until the financial crisis at the protests. Remember they are all starting to feel the impact of the financial crisis now that its been going on almost 4 years now.
Most of them are rich seniors.
Rich people fund Fox News, but they are supported by a lot of middle class people who get duped into thinking the Tea Party and Faux are on their side. A lot of them have had their savings looted by these banksters too, they need to be constantly reminded of that.
Earlier I proposed a march of suits as in people wearing suits. Only about 4 people responded. Someone else made a similar suggestion about Dress up Fridays. March on Wall Street wearing suits. You can't be dismissed by the media as a bunch of drugged up hippies if you show up looking and acting like the 1%. Have you ever seen the police try to detain a business man? It's scarier for them to see people who look just like them taking to the streets.
i agree it is an excellent ploy.Ju-Jitsu Like Billionaires for Bush.
I don't have a suit with me but I would like to play dress up with you. Did anybody bring an extra suit I can borrow. I am a 48 regular with a 33 in waist, 16 1/2 inch neck and 33 inch sleeve.
I bought a suitcoat for $15 at Salvation Army for a protest at the L.A. Philharmonic and it was startling to see the instant respect I received.
what people also should do is to watch fox enough to see who their sponsors are, then organize a huge campaign to Boycott them and to show the world that company xyz pays for lies and propaganda. Expose any issues with their sponsor's products etc. Websites, videos, snail-mail letter/postacrd writing to the CEOs & BoDs, the entire 9 nine yards.
Oh no, watching them is a torture; I feel like throwing up. There must be alternative more humane ways.
hahaha
Yes, go after their sponsors. Even Bill Oreally has advocated going after people's or networks' sponsors when he & Fox disagreed with their positions.
It's fair game,legal and legitimate.
check this out is has some great ideas on it..
http://turnofffox.org/
Yeah--check this out loser. Just like Hitler shut down the truth about your terrorist acts by trying to shut down FOX--shut down FOX, ROFL. The whole world loves and watches FOX.
What's the matter MessNBC not helping you? Oh yeah they only have 2 viewers-but they like you. ROFL.
Can't wait till the first one of you is shot--then it all goes away. Anyway you'll all be back to your mommy's basement for the cold weather sponging off of her.
http://www.owsexposed.com/about/
Have you seen this site? http://shutfoxdown.com/
Since it's a proven fact that they lie as well as it is common, public knowledge and info, there may be a way to shut them down by changing laws, or at least force them to not be able to call themselves a "news" channel.
The very same constitution that allows you to stay in Zucotti park - albeit with the states resentment, is the very same constitution that allows FOX to continue running as a media enterprise with freedom of press. So, as i will echo a reporter (not from FOX): "Are you picking and choosing which constitutional rights to uphold?"
This is a good point. Fox News may be lowest common denominator propoganda, but free speech is free speech.
Also, there is no scientific proof that Fox News unduly influences citizen's thought and actions. Therefore it's not harmful, however much you disagree with it.
Fox News can lie and put out propaganda because the Fairness act was repealed by Ronald Reagan, he made fox news possible. So don;t even hint they have a constitutional right to mislead the American people.
Propaganda springs up on every side. Have you even seen RT's coverage of the OWS protests? And yes FOX does have a constitutional right to present an opinion based upon fact.
Fox News exists Because Ronald Reagan repealed the Fairness Doctrine, Which among other things prevented news organizations from presenting opinion as fact and making up stories to confuse the American people. So you see they now can lie, present opinion and distort the current events as fact because of the Republican saint Ronald Reagan.
You seem to be arguing in support of my statement. Exactly as you say - they can now present their own opinion, whether or not they present it as fact.
Duka223.......you missed the whole point......It's because of Ronald Reagan that Faux News can present lie, present opinions and made up stories as Fact.....This is morally bankrupt and dishonest to lie to the American People...... ......To be proud of it is being a slimy Troll.
The repealment of the Fairness Doctrine meant that the media could now present multiple or single views on an issue. They present their own bias opinion yes, but it is up to the American people whether to perceive this as fact or not. Whether this is lying to the people or not can be debated. This is however completely irrelevant: they have both the constitutional right to act as a media outlet with freedom of press also have the right to present their own opinion on particular issues. If you really want to change that, why wouldn't you be protesting on the lawns of the white house?
Durka223.........They had that right before the repeal of the fairness doctrine....What they got was the right to present opinion as fact, and lie to the american people as fact and to present biased reporting as fact without the rebuttal of opponents...............................I'll not repeat these points again............If you can't answer them than shut the fuck up.............
You first made the mistake of bringing up a doctrine which you know NOTHING about. I suggest you do a little research and inform your pre-pubescent mind.
Durka223....It is you who know nothing.........The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission's view, honest, equitable and balanced. The FCC decided to eliminate the Doctrine in 1987, and in August 2011 the FCC formally removed the language that implemented the Doctrine....................................................................
The Fairness Doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented..................................................................................................... .Basic doctrine In the mid-1980s, under FCC Chairman Mark S. Fowler, a communications attorney who had served on Ronald Reagan's presidential campaign staff in 1976 and 1980, the commission began to repeal parts of the Fairness Doctrine, stating in 1985 that the doctrine hurt the public interest and violated free speech rights guaranteed by the First Amendment.
Fowler said in February 2009 that his work toward revoking the Fairness Doctrine under the Reagan Administration had been a matter of principle (his belief that the Doctrine impinged upon the First Amendment), not partisanship. Fowler described the White House staff raising concerns, at a time before the prominence of conservative talk radio and during the preeminence of the Big Three television networks and PBS in political discourse, that repealing the policy would be politically unwise. He described the staff's position as saying to Reagan:.............................................
“ The only thing that really protects you from the savageness of the three networks — every day they would savage Ronald Reagan — is the Fairness Doctrine, and Fowler is proposing to repeal it! ” Instead, Reagan supported the effort and later vetoed the Democratic-controlled Congress's effort to make the doctrine law.
Firstly: Oh you can copy and paste straight from Wikipedia? Then I'm sorry, you must know exactly what you are talking about. Secondly: you are arguing the viewpoint that the Fairness Doctrine enables media corporations such as FOX to lie to the public. I'm sorry but making claims such as this requires YOU to provide substance. And no, before you say it, presenting one bias perspective on a subject IS NOT lying to the people. Furthermore this is completely irrelevant. By the repealment of the Fairness Doctrine FOX has a RIGHT to say whatever they want on a particular issue. I believe it was wrong to repeal the doctrine, however that does not negate the fact they are doing nothing legally or ethically wrong. Just as you have your own opinion on a subject, they have theirs. By the same judgement you use: are you trying to lie to me about this subject because you are presenting your own opinion as fact? Your ignorance is palpable.
Durka223.....Nice Opinion......no substance but nice,,,NOT...Cut and pasting the actual facts is not an act of dishonesty....where did you get that.........because you have no rebuttal ............If you want video of Fox News lying go to U-Tube and search "Fox News Lies" you will find hundreds of videos from fox personalities lying. ......I would think that should bring this discussion to a screeching halt, as you have nothing to rebut the truth with......YOUR IGNORANCE IS NAUSEATING.
You cannot even substantiate your own argument so you want ME to go to youtube and search.And no, i didn't say dishonest. Might want to brush up on your reading skills. I said copying and pasting does not mean you know anything about the doctrine. Pathetic.
Durka223............Your a complete TROLL.
hey durka223...how do you figure I give you evidence and you give me your opinion if you call that winning your not only a troll your a moron.
No, I'm not. But its nice to see that since you know you have lost this argument, you resort to calling me a troll. It's amusing.
Durka223........................................Troll let me know if this isn't enough of Faux News Lies....By the way you might need to actually read the Fairness Docturine...You absolute Moron and they are rare, so you should be PROUD........................ http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer#p/c/A3BD2524FE99BD4D/4/YJ1qGfNuAFg..........http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer#p/c/A3BD2524FE99BD4D/3/DTIxTiX_MTM............http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer#p/c/A3BD2524FE99BD4D/5/6fEOLd8Bez8......................http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer#p/c/A3BD2524FE99BD4D/7/KBpZisdm5bo........http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer#p/c/A3BD2524FE99BD4D/8/mz-tXhTUQw8.........http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberalViewer#p/c/A3BD2524FE99BD4D/9/CiM8TlD5oug
"You are absolute moron". I really do not need to say anything else. Thanks for that, it really made me chuckle!
Hate to say it but taking down Fox News website is kind of pointless. I don't know much about Anonymous to do anything more then make blanket statements, They need to do more then just take down a website though. Find Billo the Pervs court records... Specifically the ones where he paid $10 - $20 million to one of his interns NOT to go public with voice mails he left her. Billo the Perv left messages telling her to rub a felafel , he meant a loofah, over her naked body while in the shower.
You have a channel where they defend Ted Nugent, who told Obama to suck an uzi, but put down someone just because they call Hannity and Billo names.
huh ?
If your comment was to me, i have no idea what you are talking about.
we need to protest all news.. we have no free press. its free, to an extent. Nothing is posted about the serious war crimes the USA is performing.. there are 5 major news organizations nowadays, presenting different views on different non-essential issues. WE NEED REAL NEWS! Not news about paris hiltons dead dog or gays, that only filter out what is really occuring.
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We should protest our enemies which are fox news (lies) and the Tea party (religious Right) and Republicans (tools of the religious right).
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Don't feed the Troll.
Obama a Muslim tool, are you out of your fucking mind. I am an Atheist and Atheism is not a religion its just denying one more God than Christians do. Please don't be comment on subjects you have zero knowledge on. Religion contributes to most of the organised Violance in the world not peace. Also are you a TROLL? your responses have that troll like characteristic to them.
If you mean warfare, when you refer to organized violence, Religion is only a characteristic of the true cause. Wars are fought because of differing beliefs that cannot be reconciled through peaceful intercourse. The American Revolution started because of many grievances, one of them being the right that you expound being freedom of worship or not to worship at all. I feel one of the stronger resentments was taxation without repesentation which lead to things like the "Boston tea party" of 1773. It was ironically a result of the Tea Act of 1773 which was an attempt to save the British East India Company from bankruptcy. Anything seem familiar, it was a government bailout of a company. 235 years later we are back in the same boat. One side was a King and parliament vs. revolutionary colonials. Now we have a constitutional government vs. an extremely polarized populace. Nobody is happy with our situation but we can't agree on how to fix it because of our differing values. This is why we are where we are... ready to fight for what we believe in. My name here let's you no that I am a troll. I am not taking sides in your issues, just siding with the truth. You can't see it because you are wearing blinders. You spew vulgarity and hatred towards those who don't agree with you. You should really consider if you are furthering your cause in this fashion or merely increasing your hypertension.
You mean like the IRA fighting the Catholics or the Muslim Christian war in the Sudan or the religious genocide in Bosnia. ETC ETC ETC.
So you can't accept the premise that any religion may be a value system. You only can understand it as a reason to cause conflict. As an atheist you can't accept anothers' belief in a Deity. The mythical, in your thoughts, source of the dogma. As the supposed intellectual you can't think of the formation of the various religions as a set of behavioral rules, ergo "values" to guide the societal formation and establish common ethics. When I took ethics 101 in college one of the widely accepted ethics systems was WWJD. You can substitute any of your excuses for what you believe as religion that started the conflict but they were man made. The wars couldn't be ordained by God because you don't believe in ANY. Now who is fooling themselves with their own thoughts?
Their are no Gods, There is only the Natural World with it's Laws. Which are:...Fixed, Universal and Unchangeable. there can be no supernatural in the natural world because of these rules, which have been proven and tested by the scientific community. Religion poisons everything and has no values. What you are calling religious values are evolution at work. I don't have excuses I have facts backed by empirical evidence and reasoned , logical thought. The religious have lost the ability for reason and logic because of religious indoctrination, which has Taught them to except the unbelievable with no evidence on faith. This is called blind faith. The religious do not have the natural skepticism that man developed through evolution, it has been brainwashed out. Yes Mankind is on his own in the universe and needs all his skepticism to keep conquering new horizons. But cheer up, as Carl Sagan said "it is better to know the universe as it is than maintain a delusion no matter how comforting and reassuring it may be" and you can always be deprogrammed by an expert in cult behavior.
Can you comprehend anything I have wriitten? I lay forth a point of contention and you came back with quotes from some atheist manifesto. There is not one single statement I have written that identifies me as a Christian or any other set of values based on what you would call an imaginary friend. The root cause of most conflict is mans' intolerance to his fellow man of which you are a classic example. You opened this interchange of ideas with the statement that religion contributes to most organized violence. I merely stated that religion was only one symptom of the disease. If one is a true follower of Islam does it really tell them to do the things that terrorists do? Did Jesus H. Christ himself present himself as an advocate of war? It is some evolutionary (your concept) perversion of the tenets of religion that lead to violence. I repeat it is MANMADE not as you contend caused by the religion. You talk about empirical evidence. WHERE IS IT. Your arguments are based solely on opinion. Opinions are best measured by polls. You couldn't evenb win a poll with your opinions because the fact is that there are more people on this planet that hold some religios beliefs that there are self professed atheists. Your arguments are no better than blind faith, or are all of the things you have written your own thoughts. Why don't you quote Jung instead of Sagan. Jung stated that the religious experience must be linked with the experience of the archetypes of the collective unconscious. Thus, God himself is lived like a psychic experience of the path that leads one to the realization of his/her psychic wholeness. So God does exist within the collective unconscious of Man whether you accept that or not. Therefore a logical person would accept that violence is created by man because religion is the result of mans' individuation of the archetypal knowledge within the many and varied cultures. Go ahead and keep believing Sagan. Skepticism doesn't conquer new horizons. Hope, curiosity and perseverance backed up by the courage of someone who believes in something other than himself drive progress. If Sagan feels skepticism is of prime value, how did it bring him to look for life beyond this planet? Skepticism would tell him that is doesn't exist.
Gravity, try violating that law (empirical evidence), Religion teaches bigotry, hate and violence along with intolerance , slavery, genocide,human sacrifice, incest, animal sacrifice, and that God is a tyrant and megalomaniac. These like my last post are not opinion. They are all advocated in the Bible. "Arguing with a theist is like arguing with a child" I present reason and logic along with empirical evidence and in return I get your opinion of me. there is no hope for the religious , they are all looking for their reward when they die. God is a delusion implanted in your mind from childhood. Now present me a logical and reasoned argument for God. I don't have a belief all I am doing is rejecting a theist assertion of the existence of God. Skepticism will keep you out of the cult of religion. I'll go so far as say that 90% of the organised violence in the world can be directly traced to religion, you can't blame a man who believes the Dogma he is fed to make a reason decision to go to war! Now present me your evidence I just presented mine. I'll recap, the laws of nature are FIXED, UNIVERSAL and UNCHANGEABLE this is an absolute true statement backed up by Science. Since this is a true statement there can be no supernatural, which means there is no place for a God.
Why do you keep insisting that you are argueing with a theist. None of my points are based in theism. You have the perception of a damp mop. You have soaked up a little water but can't get the job done. You cite bigotry as a religious teaching. Is that where you learned how to present yourself as a bigot. My empirical proof of such is from Wikipedia as follows:
A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religion or spirituality, nationality, language, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, age, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology or world views.
Chuck you Farley! You are a Bigot.
Are you saying your an atheist? I'm far from a bigot, Because I dispise religion for all the harm it has brought on mankind is not bigotry. It is well placed anger at an organisation that breeds hate and is down right dangerous to mankind.
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Oh after you read my exhaustive proof that Atheism is not a religion,you should be able to understand that you are delusional and brain washed and have been indoctrinated since childhood. I am also 65 years old and have more innate knowledge than you have brain cells. So don't waste the rest of the only life you've got on fairy tales and superstitions from the Bronze age.
Here's my answer to your ridiculous assertion that Atheism is a religion..................The Persistent And Incorrect Belief That Atheism Is A Religion. It is suggested by many people that atheism is a religion. Before we can examine why atheism is sometimes defined as a belief, it is important to understand who defines it as such. Rarely, if ever, will you find another atheist, agnostic, freethinker, humanist, secularist, etc., putting the definition of religion in the context of atheism. Almost without exception, it is the religious who do so. The reason is simple. The religious are are so caught up in their own beliefs that imagining another person without having any religious beliefs is largely incomprehensible. Those who claim that atheism is a religion do not only lack a clear understanding of what atheism is, they also tend to use religious terms to describe atheism. There exists only one definition of atheism, and that is simply the lack of a belief in a deity.
Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity, which implies that nothing exists but natural phenomena (matter), that thought is a property or function of matter, and that death irreversibly and totally terminates individual organic units. This definition means that there are no forces, phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart from physical nature, or which transcend nature, or are “super” natural, nor can there be. Humankind is on its own.
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Listen Dumb ass, look up the definition of religion and you will now have a glue. I presented you with the definition of an Atheist. I shouldn't even need to be explaining this. Arguing with a theist is like arguing with a child, you present a rational argument and empirical evidence and all you get back is the same mindless argument that yes I'm right and you are wrong. No logical reasoning and no evidence. Now look up the definition of religion and you should see with your own eyes you are wrong. That is unless your so delusional and indoctrinated you are unable to reason. This is a common problem with true believers.
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I do not believe in Atheist ism, I am pure and simple an atheist, nothing more nothing less. I deny the theist assertion of a deity, based on logical thought and reason along with empirical evidence that does not support the conclusion of a supernatural world. Atheists often have nothing in common with each other only the fact that they have reached the same conclusions. I have made this as simple as I could so that you would understand. Please take time to contemplate what I have written.
Obama is a corporatist who has Robert Rubin from Citigroup on his economic team .Rubin who pushed for the elimination of Glass-Steagal which helped create the Bubble,Bust, and Bailout..There is one party in America-- The Corporate Party.
Your lack of original ideas makes my point.
Yea, let me know if you organize something.
I'll meet you at the PATH and we can go up to 1211 Ave of the Americas after we go pick up the drummers
Must happen.
u do have judge napolitano and john stossel who are with you at fox
Fox is mandated to hate us..lol
Yea, I don't hate Napolitano.
We have a family friend that knows him personally, he's a good man and his program on fox is not that bad.
But as a whole, I do have no use for Fox. Murdoch should go.
Forget about Fox News and realize that the police are also in the 99%. As long as money talks, the 99% will always be pitted against itself by the 1%. This fight/protest can only be resolved politically.
The vast majority of the police on the streets are people just like us all. The difference is they have a job to do and have to answer to their superiors. Police are organized within a scalar structure, given guidelines, protocol and even direct orders to follow in the course of duties. The best way to interface with a police officer is to show them the same respect you would expect from them. They may agree with everything you believe in so don't take out your frustrations on them or you will likely be paid back in kind. Or umkind if you prefer to see it that way. I'm just sayin,
truthtroll...I believe you are mistaken that police are just like us........................Police are the ones who take their frustrations with life out on the citizens that they have a personal beef with......................They violate the Constitution on a daily basis with illegal searches and vehicle stops, .....................brutality is the most common feature of the Police....................They routinely perjurer themselves in court to get a conviction.................. how many innocent men have been let out of DEATH ROW............. they where forced to confessed to the crime by the police...................DNA acquitted them.............."The Innocent Project".......... So the Police are nothing like us, they are working for the 1% and like it.
I'd be very curious as to whether there were any unusual donors to Oakland PD or any of the other occupied cities, the way JPMorgan is to NYPD?
Could be but the key to resolving this growing problem of wealth inequity is through the political process whereby businesses are treated as property instead of people protected by the Bill of Rights. Property (businesses) should not be allowed to influence representatives elected by the people. The Constitution has been bastardized by government. The founders never envisioned that corporations were actual people that needed protections that were written for people.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
Thomas Jefferson
Yep, agree... unfortunately we have career politicians that come primarily from the 1% that want to protect their position. The Constitution was bastardized back in the 1800s and the effects are now displaying itself prominently. Even the anti-trust laws were a result of that bastardization of the Constitution which afforded corporations the same status as actual people inre to the Bill of Rights.
Please explain this situation to me. First, the unionized police, fire, first-responders embraced as a key entity dismissed by the 1 percent- think Madison, Wisconsin. Now, through some strange vortex, the police/keepers of order have become "boots on the ground". Yet, there is no empathy to the fact that local budgets and resources are being stretched to keep the OWS encampments safe. Likewise, the local business entities and people which reside in these zones have been rather giving. I in no way condone brutality in any guise or form. When resources are being diverted from accidents, homicides, and other unseemly local events in order to placate the needs of OWS......stress is mounting. Just another vantage point.
Just look back at history, the militia murdering women and children in a Colorado miners strike. the police used as strike breakers in the 1920's and 1930's. The police are not our friends they work for the 1%.
The unionized police.....? We do not operate under the 1920's/1930's premise anymore...O
Oh I know you are wrong, look at Oakland PD's actions, Denver PD's action, Memphis PD's actions, Just to name a few. The Police consider themselves arbiters of the social balance and protectors of the establishment. Police violate Americans civil liberties on a daily basis throughout this Country. illegal surveillance of legal activities, planting provocateurs in peaceful community groups, Lying under oath in a court of law, illegal arrests, Police Brutality, Settle old scores under color of law.
Chuck, are there not corrupt elements in say, education, local/small government, the P.T.A? Undoubtedly, there are illicit elements in every tacit of private and public life. Many, unseen and unknown. To attribute police presence as an interfering complex pushed by the 1 percent, moves you into Alex Jones territory.
Joyce, you obviously have no real world experience and trying to discuss the matter with you appears to be a waste of my time. We are talking about the police not the PTA or the Mothers against drunk driving! A cops favorite comment is that the traffic laws are his best friend. Meaning he gets to stop and harass someone that fits his profile of bigotry. Your comment about" Alex Jones territory" is foolish and shows your udder lack of common sense. Have you not heard of the blue wall of silence ? most likely not as the PTA does not have a similar unwritten code. If you cannot responded with a pertinent comment don't bother, you are too immature for me to have an adult dialog with.
I constitute immaturity as one blanket indictment...as you appear to espouse a "one fits all" mentality. I support the basic tenants of OWS. Your views dismiss the reality of the true composite of the 99.
Well you did it again wrote words that did not address my cocerns. All I can say is, DUH
All I can say is progressive and state that I feel sorry for you as anything that could be construed as positive/fun will never apply here. Enjoy feeling sorry for your station in life...then, invite others to comment at patheticsadihatemyprogressivelife.org.
You have no Idea what I'm about or my station in life. Despising Religion for the harm it has caused mankind is well place anger at an institution that is down right dangerous to mankind. This is not about fun it's about being on the same page in the life of the movement. So if you can't defend your positions maybe you should change your positions. Or get out of the kitchen.
No need defend. You reference life in the 1920's, I counter, rather pointedly. You brush a portrait that all is corrupt when there is no viable truth to the statement. Keep looking for utopia, or rather, charging at windmills.
I was a protester and Union organizer in the 60's and 70's I used the 20's and 30's as an example of when the police could murder strikers and protesters and not really have to justify it. Now a days they still can murder protesters and strikers but need to concoct elaborate story's to justify their actions. It was an analogy.
Pretty simple, don't send cops there, we will be peaceful. The presence of authority make us less peaceful.
Too simplistic and not taking into account standard police practices involving large groups of people gathered and the ability to provide timely service to those who may be in need. And your proposed polemic suggests that police presence/lack of equates with the crowds choosing peace/no peace. I understand what you meant.....what you wrote defeats your intent and further complicates what I suggested above.
Is it standard police practice to assault peaceful protesters, exercising their constitutional right of free assembly? And with chemical weapons and grenades. Apparently it is, or maybe the police didn't like what the assembly was about or the type of people who where in it. Ether case it is an indictment of the police.
I'm not sure Fox would care, you're not exactly their core demographic anyways.
Who do we talk to in order to get this BLOCKADE of Fox News going on Monday?
That is the first target in the new tactical strategy.
Just do it.
So when someone say something you disagree with you try to shut them down? Is that democracy?
Yea..how dare he report what actually happened. He needs to get in line with the other media at NBC. MSNBC , CNN and ABC, who ignore the daily violence, arrests, and rapes.
You're boy O'Reilly got in trouble when he gave his book about Lincoln to Ford's Theatre and they refused to accept it because it was full of factual errors as is the right's lies about our non-violent movement.
This is also how you idiots treat our muslim brothers. You see the honorable one in Tahrir Square and still compare them to Al Qaida. Shame.
muslim brothers? Not mine asshole
Fox lies. I like PBS and Rachel Maddow.
Everyone should wear Pinocchio masks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"He started it!" is not an excuse for you to continue you. Just because the police started rounding-up protesters is not reason to Spraypaint on fellow citizens private shops, or smash in their windows.
I saw one of those business women CRYING on television because she had no way to repair the thousands in damage. You guys basically moved her from a Self-employed individual to an Unemployed individual.
And no "the cops started it" does not excuse what you did to her and hundreds of other citizens.
We didn't do anything. Our movement is non-violent. We have no power over yahoos who come along.
Absolutely !!! Everyone knows Marxism is incompatible with the truth which is why there is NO free press in the “Workers’ Paradise”.
Somalia is a libertarian wonderland. Go live there.
I prefer to fight the Marxists in my own back yard. A lot more convenient & just as fun.
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What's funny "frankchurch1 (Jersey City)" is that I love potato chips & I am sure you do too.
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Colbert has you folks pegged! Totally showcases the lunacy of this movement
Colbert is on the left.
Doesn't. Matter which side he comes from. Part of the problem is that you all are thinking to partisan.
No, everybodies welcome.
We won't have you water down our ideals like the doctrinal managers watered down MLK.
I like that show House.
Shutting down Oakland. A lovely thing.
Why do so many of you watch Fox news? There would be no need for a boycott if you just didn't pay attention to it in the first place. Do you realy think you will influence others who currently watch it? Will a small boycott weaken oe strengthen or weaken their resolve?
Lol and are you going to go after all the other corporate media groups that are shamelessly biased in the OPPOSITE direction towards the left? Or are you going to single out Fox just because it's shamelessly REPUBLICAN and not shamelessly DEMOCRAT...
Really, people who go after Fox need to realize that EVERY media outlet in this country is the same way. The person who owns the media group determines the spin that is put on the news going out. Case and point: Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, etc.
It's ALL biased and swung, no matter WHAT news network you tune into, not just Fox.
Being apparently biased is a lot different than making up news story's and being a propaganda arm of the republican party. All of which Faux News is and does. If you dispute this, go to U-tube and search Fox News you will find video evidence of all the practices I mentioned.
MSNBC and ex-msnbc Kieth Olbermann do a great job of this
Egg them, it's Halloween.
Yes. Let's set up in front of Fox news. The rally slogan should be, "End the Propaganda."
Our signs should mention other media as well.
The Wall Street Journal should be taken to task as well for all of the scatalogical propaganda they place on their editorial page.
Except for Thomas Frank.
It WAS you who started it. Maybe if you were a cop, who had to deal with a bunch of unwashed stirring up trouble for political gain, you'd see it differently.
The police are big government, don't forget that.
Your a Moron, the Police don't get to determine who has constitutional rights.
The right of Assembly to redress gr evinces is not stirring up trouble. But the Police think so, the police are not our friends.
and police choose the job.....they can leave at any time if they dont like it. Oh that pesky first amendment!! If only we let cops write the rules!
You did start it, in that, police are authorized to seek a higher level. Failure is not an option.
So the idea is to protest everyone and everything that doesn't conform to your wishes?
Yea, just like the Tea Party. Baffling, isn't it?
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