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Forum Post: "We can't accept events like this as routine"

Posted 1 year ago on Dec. 17, 2012, 12:57 p.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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The drones are out of hand. The CIA cannot be trusted to give out accurate information. They have committed acts of torture, murder, and even drug smuggling among many other illegal activities.

Stanford Law and the NYU School of Law have found that the success rate of taking out high profile targets is actually only 2%. In the process they're killing innocent civilians and violently injuring many more.

"We can't accept events like this as routine"


H. RES. 819

Directing the Attorney General of the United States to transmit to the House of Representatives, not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution, any documents and legal memoranda in the Attorney General's possession relating to the practice of targeted killing of United States citizens and targets abroad.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES November 28, 2012

Mr. KUCINICH (for himself and Mr. HOLT) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

RESOLUTION Directing the Attorney General of the United States to transmit to the House of Representatives, not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution, any documents and legal memoranda in the Attorney General's possession relating to the practice of targeted killing of United States citizens and targets abroad.

Resolved, That the Attorney General is directed to transmit to the House of Representatives, not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution, any documents and legal memoranda in the Attorney General's possession relating to the practice of targeted killing of United States citizens and targets abroad.

And yes this is the entire bill.

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[-] 3 points by rayolite (461) 1 year ago

When we accepted the 2000 election, we signalled we could make acceptance of ultimate corruptions routine.

TrevorMnemonic wrote: "We can't accept events like this as routine"

Each one of these is a test. When it is observed we cannot be reasonable to define facts and unify around them, the agenda escalates using what it has learned about us, against us.

[-] 2 points by VoiceOfTheVoiceIess (2) 1 year ago

Do the deaths of Pakistani children not demand a tear from us. Where is the outpouring of grief for those children that we destroy with weapons of war?

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

A lot of people don't care. Instead some on the forum spend their time downvoting people like me or try to call me a republican for talking about it. Or simply just don't care and keep quiet about the subject.

I'm glad it seems like you care. Also that's a great Rage Against the Machine Song.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

“Thus far, the Administration has refused to release the memo or any documents, despite multiple requests from members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Intelligence operations that have virtually no transparency, accountability or oversight raise serious legal questions, particularly when such programs may constitute possible violations of international law or the Constitution of the United States,” said Kucinich.

“Regardless of your support of our drone program, Congress and the American people deserve to know which laws the United States is relying on to conduct this program, and how they are interpreted by the Executive Branch,” added Kucinich.

The bill would force the Administration to turn over the legal justification it uses for the strikes, including any memos from the Office of Legal Counsel, which have been widely reported on.

“Despite the committee's decision to report the resolution unfavorably, the committee engaged in a timely and important debate on the use of drones abroad and the violation of the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens that are targeted abroad," said Kucinich.

The Judiciary Committee discussed the importance of pushing the Administration for more answers on its combat drone policy prior to voting to report the resolution unfavorably.

“Our policies create a dangerous legal precedent that other nations will emulate. As the combat drone program continues to be expanded, it is critical that Congress weigh in,” said Kucinich. “Today, Congress demonstrated that our foreign policy will not be conducted absent congressional review.”

The House Judiciary Committee on Dec 13 2012 conducted an overdue discussion about the United States policy of using drones to target and kill American citizens and others overseas. The policy has come under criticism for killing innocent civilians and inciting radicalization. The Committee discussed H. Res. 819, a Resolution of Inquiry which would compel the Administration to provide the legal basis for the strikes. The resolution was introduced with bipartisan support by Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH).