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Forum Post: WAR - Whites Against Racism (Idea thread)

Posted 2 years ago on March 26, 2012, 5:06 p.m. EST by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL
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Whites Against Racism

I have my hands full but I had a good idea for a campaign against racism. Most white folks that don't have race hangups have a friend or relative, or many, that have issues with race. Most of us also let it slide as to not cause confrontation and just wait for the moment to pass. We need a campaign with tactics and information on how to address this with our families and friends in a constructive way. This could also be used to organize events and media info. The government telling people that it ain't ok hasn't finished the job, we need to provide the extra push. + we know people love the word WAR.

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[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

I like the idea... but "whites" against racism? Every skin color should be against racism. And I know you agree with that... I'm just saying using the word "Whites" kind of establishes separation. Just some constructive criticism.

Racism needs to end and I fully agree with you on that. All forms of prejudice needs to end. It's absolutely disgusting that so much hate for the LGBT community is tolerated in the mainstream and even on mainstream television. No one deserves to be hated based on their appearance and their private life.

This whole religious BS from bigots when it comes to marriage is a disgrace. My mom was married in a courthouse. What did that have to do with a church and a religion?

[-] 3 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Yes, but what about the blacks that have a racism problem, of which there are many? I imagine they could start their own campaign, BAR. Hispanics, however, will have to work on their acronym lest they not be taken seriously. ;-)

[-] 2 points by francismjenkins (3713) 2 years ago

Unfortunately, considering the history and current attitudes regarding race held by the majority, it's hard to accuse African Americans of racism, without accounting for the fact that they've been forced into a position of reacting to very unfavorable circumstances.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Good point :)

[-] 0 points by CCNN (8) from Walla Walla, WA 2 years ago

What unfavorable circumstances?

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

sharpton and jackson are professional race baiters. tawana brawley ring a bell? the duke lacross team?

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Yep. Shapton and Jackson are willing tools of those factions bent on keeping us apart. They're traitors to black Americans.

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

yes, specifically to black americans and in the larger sense to all americans.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

LMAO, I was thinking just that. The slogan could be, "Raising the BAR". Why not approach the race issue one race at a time, fighting fire with fire?

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Agreed.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6486) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

As a young southern man with no black friends, grew up in all white town, when I left the service and went to school I had a black lab teacher, got to know him a bit after a while got up the courage to ask him about such things, I had already had talks in ethics/social studies class with several people and wanted his input outside the expected responses, as it turned out he was from Chicago, where race had given away to economic segregation already, this was some 30 years ago, I think it is kept alive today in part as a tool to be used by some to keep us from realizing the economic condition.

This is stuff you may be familiar with, but I guess what I’m saying is what a lot of people have said; a poor white man has a lot more in common with a poor black man than he does a rich white guy.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Well Fucking Said. Holy crap I couldn't have said it better. This is probably the best post on race I have ever read. Kudos!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6486) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

thank you richard, that means a lot to me

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22091) 2 years ago

I think one of the major mistakes in how the U.S. has dealt with racism was by using the word and idea of "tolerance." To tolerate something means to endure something, to put up with something, to allow it to exist whether you like it or not. What was lacking in this approach is love, appreciation and equality. People shouldn't merely "tolerate" others. They should love others and accept them fully as equals.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Tolerating was the idea needed to get us this far. Maybe removing it from future language would be a good idea?

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22091) 2 years ago

I'm not sure it didn't do more harm than good, but yes, I think it is time to move on and up. We can do better than that!

[-] 2 points by amanofnoimportance (82) from Orlando, FL 2 years ago

The best thing you can do?

-Wipe away negative feelings when people mention colors. Colors are cosmetic attributes. Black, white, purple. They are only colors, nothing is wrong with them.

-Stop apologizing or feeling the need to apologize for atrocities your fathers, grandfathers, and everyone before committed.

-Stop making others feel as though there is a debt to be repaid, especially if you were not alive during those times. That is between the people of generations before. Their hate will dwindle with their bodies if they insist on living in the past.

By no means do I wish to stop you. Do as you will. Just know that racism is in the mind the only way to kill that which is in the mind is to change it. It is internal.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

I don't feel any of those things you point out. I feel sad that another child has been denied a full life because of skin color. In one of the most educated and advanced society on the planet, this is the best we can do?

[-] 2 points by amanofnoimportance (82) from Orlando, FL 2 years ago

We'll just have to disagree, then.

I still think we should forgive and forget; everyone. All races.

Don't Forgive...and keep score.

I am not being naive. There are stubborn racists out there. Let them sink if they insist. Float up to the top.

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[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

you mean trayvon( whose mother let him lie in the morgue for 3 days before claiming him and is busy copywriting his name)? you trayvon who was supended from school because of drugs? the msm press is refering to zimmerman as a " white hispnaic". does that mean that obama is a white black man?

[-] 0 points by AlBundy (8) from Atlanta, GA 2 years ago

No it means you are a fucking retard. Now go fuck yourself.

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

little al = a pawn of ows and the dems/libs. no argument, just a stream of verbal diarrhea

[-] 0 points by amanofnoimportance (82) from Orlando, FL 2 years ago

Edit: because what I replied to also got edited, so it no longer makes sense what I said.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

So it's ok to kill pot smoking kids with crappy parents? Thats just anti-American.

[-] 1 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

i didnt say it was O.K. what I am saying is that trayvon is not the saint the msm makes out to be. how about the 2 british tourists murderd by blacks for,.....being in their florida neighborhood. any comments?

[-] 0 points by AlBundy (8) from Atlanta, GA 2 years ago

You sound like the type that can suck a billiard ball through a garden hose motherfucker. You must have been born on the highway cause thats where most accidents happen.

[-] 0 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

what does it matter what he was? he WASNT threatening nor committing a crime.. thats all that should matter., are you saying it was ok to kill him cause he wasnt a saint?

[-] 2 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

do you know ALL the facts? do you know if he was threatening or committing a crime?

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

yes.. zimmerman told that himself.. to the police the kid was walking down the street. nothing happened until zimmerman got out of his car

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

What the media makes of anything is irrelevant. That should be a basic understanding of anyone on this forum. Secondly, you have only pointed out another crime. Thirdly, thats a pretty lame attempt to justify killing a child.

[-] 2 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

learn reading comprehension. i didnt justify anything. i was speaking to the hypocrisy.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Ahh, a nihilist.

[-] 1 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

i didnt justify anything,..........................blacks killing blacks, and whites is a common occurance, yet when a white person kills its national news. why?

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

maybe cause when blacks kill whites and blacks they are arrested?

[-] 1 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

if zimmerman has not been arressted maybe it's because the witness exonerates him.

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

can he ever change the fact that he followed the kid and despite police advising him other wise he instigated a confrontation? that kid had the right to stand his ground also.. and when accosted by some strange wierdo had the right to fight back. theres no way around it.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Because a child was gunned down by a grown man. Did you really need that explained to you?

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[-] 1 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

martin - 17 zimmerman - 28 ,...............i dont know of any children that are 6'2.

[-] 2 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

guess you havent been to many high school basketball games lately have you

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

the "kid" was on the football team

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

So children don't play football? or did Zimmerman pursue someone he was afraid of, even after being told to stop following by an officer/deputy. How is such a big pussy that doesn't follow instructions from law enforcement the captain of their neighborhood watch?

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

martin, suspended from school 3 times,, posession of marijuana, kicked out of school in october for graffiti, caught with a burglary tool and bag of womens jewelry

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

a 90 year old white man and his elderly wife

is not relevant to this case. It may be relevant and an indicator as to why you're so hateful though.

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

you have fallen for tha race baiting lies of this " case" . you're just what sharpton and jackson and obama rely on.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

And in your mind, that justifies pursuing him with a firearm then shooting him?

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

i stated facts about martin, you do not know that exact circumstances of what happened that night.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

you have fallen for tha race baiting lies of this " case" . you're just what sharpton and jackson and obama rely on.

lol, are you really trying to pull a reverse race card? LMAO. you're an idiot.

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

you, dear are the "idiot" to have fallen for the professional race baiters. nifong ring a bell? tawan brawley mean anything?

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

"i stated facts about martin, you do not know that exact circumstances of what happened that night."

You people are a sad bunch. I'm sure it makes your type feel powerful to act the way you do, being hateful and unable to find happiness, but we both know you and your type feel the sting of fear and spinelessness every minute of the day. Yes, you get under peoples skin, no secrete, but you pay for it in your own existence. Must be awesome.

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 2 years ago

a 90 year old white man and his elderly wife were attacked by a tyrone woodforke a black, the women was beaten and raped, she later died. this took place in tulsa, ok. any comments? the head of the nbl has threatend to bunr down detroit. any comments? spike lee gave out the wrong address for zimmerman. the people living that home had to leave a go into hiding, any comments? the nbl have put out a bountry for zimmerman? any comments?

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

I'll just leave that for other readers to consider :/

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22091) 2 years ago

That all sounds very convenient.

[-] 1 points by deng123 (7) 2 years ago

Anti Racist Action, a US-based antifa group, exists.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Yes, it does. You could always re-read their about section, then re-read this thread, then find the difference, then engage in conversation about the difference.

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[-] 0 points by elf3 (3095) 2 years ago

Racism goes both ways - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

This horrific story was ignored by the media and prosecutors would not call it a hate crime -

You need to be extremely careful with this type of rhetoric if you look at Rwanda the Tutsis murders were a result of telling "victims" it's ok if they retaliate and are racist in reverse. I've seen looting and footage of blacks "retaliating" against whites for Travyon's murder. It makes me insane that they jump to racism for everything as a new sort of McCarthyism that makes criminals and their actions somehow untouchable. Talk about the Newsom-Christian RACIST ANGRY HORRIFIC MURDER and then I will be willing to discuss. Perhaps the reason people are afraid of young blacks wearing hoodies is that young blacks have given cause for it. Time to take a look inward at their own societal issues instead of blaming others. What happend to Travyon was an outrage of course - but it was the law that caused it. Or maybe innocent people were sick of the crime and violence and just want to protect themselves and their families maybe the inital cause was the violence being committed by minorities against innocent people. They're making their own misery.

[-] 0 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

I'd rather see Americans Against Racism...that way we could fight racism while making pirate sounds. "Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!"

Who doesn't want to make pirate sounds...for racial equality?!?

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[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 2 years ago

Perhaps if "blacks" stopped calling themselves "black" and "whites" stop pretending to actually be "white" these verbal crutches could be erased whereas everyone would realize this is not a melting pot, but a country that contains many nations within a nation. Then on that note, these nations would regain their dignity, their names, their flags, along with their national honor of being considered citizens who have each others best interest at heart and can help raise a generation of children who have pride in themselves and others as being members of THE HUMAN RACE.. Unfortunately. all people have to much hate within to realize they are their own worst enemy, no matter what alleged "color" or alleged "race" they claim to be!

[-] 0 points by CCNN (8) from Walla Walla, WA 2 years ago

.......gods in hell are u serious?

[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 2 years ago

Well, let me elaborate further, since individuals such as yourself are totally clueless. OW is about individuals who are tired of illusions, greed and oppression, so the subject was brought up and there is a solution, but perhaps you are not a part of this solution and never can be. There is a deeper meaning to my words and those who know will understand, and those who don't.... well frankly my dear...I don't give a damn!

[-] 0 points by CCNN (8) from Walla Walla, WA 2 years ago

Okay Einstein. Yes I understand your deeper meaning . Again:are you serious?

[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 2 years ago

What does it matter? What I worry or think about and work to try to find the answers for have nothing to do with anyone reading this. So what does it matter whether I am serious or not.... What matters now is only truth and the truth is...the youth and the generations that will follow are not going to fit into or conform to the lies that have been perpetrated to create this society as it stands today.
Their minds are and will be totally different from those displayed on this forum and I, as many others realize this.
So..unless a better future is to be created for them with the truth, perhaps you should really be asking those in power, who are trying so hard to keep this outmoded regime the same as it ever was... ARE YOU SERIOUS?..

[-] 0 points by CCNN (8) from Walla Walla, WA 2 years ago

No one at the present gives a ripe fuck about the future generations. The actions of the present government, the delusions of the various Marxists and socialists and liberals and conservatives and whatever on this site care nothing about the future. If they did they wouldn't believe the garbage they have been brainwashed to believe.... But the

[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 2 years ago

Wow, got a lot of pent up anger? This forum states clearly, "WAR - Whites Against Racism (Idea thread)" and since that is of my family tree also, I would clearly think that there would be a futuristic view as to ideas on how to create a change for the better for humanity. Otherwise there would be no OW. Many individuals and masses of people across the globe have demonstrated, protested, died and put their lives on the line for the future of their children and their families Believe me, if I knew it would create a better world of peace and happiness for mine....so would I... The women of Liberia protested, died and continue to fight for the future of their children and the generations to come. Most oppressors believe that murder, and war are the only way to sustain life ....but whose life? People have stood up in the past for the future generations, (i.e. for YOU) and people today will always do the same.. You my friend sound as if you are full of a vile hatred for the very essence of existence!

[-] -1 points by betuadollar (-313) 2 years ago

I've never met a black man that is not a racist; race is central to his every thought.

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[-] -1 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

LoL. Whites Against Racism translates into "I feel guilty for calling you a racial slur when you cut me off."

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Speaking for yourself again?

[-] 2 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

Nope. I think it's a joke to have an anti racism organization for one particular race.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Why would you even think somebody said that, unless you said it or a friend you overheard did?

[-] 0 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

Intuition.

Intuition = immediate apprehension or cognition

It bodes to my understanding of this world

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

You intuit that you will be cut off in traffic by a "minority"?

You make less sense with every post.

You rarely answer simple questions either.

I wonder why that is?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

yeah

some white dude who owns his trip

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Or just some guy, that refuses to fess up to why he makes a statement like that.

[-] 0 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

Hmm. You seem to have misunderstood me. What I saying was, I suspect that people sometimes use racial slurs when being cut off in traffic. I suspect this because I know how people react to racial situations when they are in a private environment. See. That's not so difficult to understand is it?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I understand you quite well.

You, like many others that come here, have real problems answering simple questions.

For some reason it's very difficult for you. I'm sorry that you have this problem.

I guess it's why you're confused about a lot of the things you post about.

It's why you turn things around and around, before you semi answer a question.

It's a pretty cowardly behavior, don't you think?

Or, am I supposed to assume that your new name, means you are a new person?

[-] 0 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

New Name?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

New iteration.

Not surprising, is that that is the only thing you responded to.

All the while distracting from what you originally said.

Never a clear answer and never a clear question.

[-] 0 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

I had to change my screen name because they quit showing my posts.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Why did you question my statement, instead of answering my questions?

Did you really think I didn't know it was likely you had been banned?

People that come back, always have an agenda.

Yours appears to be muddying issues, and not answering questions..

[-] 0 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

If a chicken says, "All Chickens are liars" is the chicken telling the truth?

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Chickens don't talk, and you don't speak the truth.

This much, I know for sure.

Intuition, as you say.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

why do you waste your patience?

[-] 0 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

All of us might wish at times that we lived in a more tranquil world, but we don't. And if our times are difficult and perplexing, so are they challenging and filled with opportunity.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Because you have a better idea, right?

[-] 1 points by ForrFreedom (49) 2 years ago

What about People Against Racism?

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

We have plenty of awareness groups just like that, multiculti and general. We don't lack effort, we lack the right approach.