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Forum Post: War Dreams Crumbling?

Posted 5 years ago on Aug. 29, 2013, 9:57 p.m. EST by itsmyblood (10)
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British lawmakers reject reprisal strike against Syria http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-britain-syria-20130830,0,4837067.story

Britain will not join USA in strike on Syria http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-britain-syria-20130830,0,4837067.story

French President Hollande tones down war rhetoric against Syria http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/29/321083/france-tones-down-syria-war-rhetoric/

Germany proceeds with caution in Syria policy http://www.dw.de/germany-proceeds-with-caution-in-syria-policy/a-17050654

Well what does this mean then???

U.S. willing to act alone on Syria attack As British and other allies' support for military action in Syria crumbles, the White House says 'core interests' are at stake. http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-us-syria-intel-20130830,0,1708580.story



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[-] 2 points by NVPHIL (664) 5 years ago

What is the next step? Gather a "coalition of the willing" to look for WMD's. We've seen this song and dance before.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Obama and Putin need to man up and have a talk. I believe they both look for excuses not to talk to eachother and they both lack leadership in regards to military matters.

[-] -2 points by cruisecontrol (-49) 5 years ago

Uh, didn't 'we' just cancel some sort of summit with the Russians??

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

We? Like I said they're hiding from eachother.

[-] -2 points by cruisecontrol (-49) 5 years ago

Doesn't look to me like Putin is hiding

wapo 8/7 http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-cancels-upcoming-meeting-with-putin/2013/08/07/0e04f686-ff64-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html

President Obama canceled an upcoming summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday, a rare, deliberate snub that reflects the fresh damage done by the Edward Snowden case to an important relationship already in decline.

Obama had planned to visit Moscow for a symbolic one-on-one meeting at the Kremlin with Putin ahead of next month’s Group of 20 economic summit in St. Petersburg, Russia. In unusually blunt terms, the White House announced Wednesday that Obama will skip the Moscow stop because there is too little hope of a productive meeting.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

They're both going to play games with Syria because it suits their personalities.

[-] -2 points by cruisecontrol (-49) 5 years ago

Oh, I agree they are both playing a very DANGEROUS game, but Putin is willing to play with Obama face to face. Thank God these 2 weren;t in charge during the Cuban Missile Crisis!!!

[-] -2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

I think it would be a smart move not to go-off on Syria. It will seem like retalliation for Snowden and he didn't tell us a thing we didn't already know.

[-] -2 points by cruisecontrol (-49) 5 years ago

So true. I have been trying to figure out just what the whole Snowden thing is about. He didn't tell us anything that we didn't know. Hell, Frontline's "spy factory' was done in mid 2000's and told us much of Snowden released.

My theory? Now that all the NSA stuff is out in the open and we have our public "discussion", nothing will really change and going forward .gov will say "you should have known you had no privacy. It was discussed and your Congresspeople didn't act".

[-] -2 points by Sybill (-9) 5 years ago

This may seem a bit extreme, but there are some truths buried in article. References to 'end game' too.

“We’re in the most dangerous time in modern world history and here’s why, here’s what’s happening,” stated my source deep within the spy world early this morning.

“We’re seeing a combination of a nine-percent overall approval rating for intervention in Syria, or the absence of public support for the globalist plans by the Obama regime, the UK, the Saudis and other NATO allies. When have we seen this before, and what does history tell us? The increased likelihood of a false flag event larger and causing more public outrage than the alleged chemical weapons attacks.”

My source continued, “think Gulf of Tonkin, the Lusitania, even Pearl Harbor, use those as your historical guides for what we’re seeing today. Make no mistake, the global agenda has not changed,” he emphasized. “When their primary plan backfires or meets resistance, they have alternate plans. In the coming days or weeks, we could see an event that will be horrendous enough to change that nine-percent backing. Also, time is not on their side, they need to act within a short window as the anti-Assad ‘rebels’ are being beaten badly without Western assistance.”

Benghazi, briefly

“Remember what happened in Benghazi and our many conversations about what was really going on there, which you printed and the reports have since been proven correct. It was all about arming and training anti-Assad fighters, including the instructional use of chemical weapons in Turkey and elsewhere, along the border of Syria. People seem to forget that the Turkish consulate met Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi, the CIA logistics center, to show him that the Russians had satellite images of this training activity. Putin was not amused and gave Turkey an ultimatum, which was delivered to the United States at Benghazi.”

“Russia, however, had to do something to expose the operation for what it was. The primary attacking force was Ansar al Sharia, a military arm of Iran, which is a proxy nation state of Russia. Connect the dots. Do people really think Assad used chemical weapons on a retreating rebel force?”

Pawns a-Plenty - Setting the global chessboard

“Look at all of the military assets being moved into that region. I told you last October, and you reported it, that we are engaged in a proxy war against Russia and China. Both countries have a huge stake in Syria, militarily and economically, especially Russia. Oh, and is John McCain out of his [multiple expletives deleted] mind? This designated loser of the 2008 presidential campaign is talking as if any action in Syria is going to happen in a vacuum. As I said before, any action will not be in a vacuum or without a tit-for-tat response,” stated this source.

“Launching cruise missiles into Syria will likely fall not only upon innocent civilians, but on Iranian forces, Russian forces - Russia has over 100,000 ‘military advisors there now, and perhaps even some Chinese assets. What do you think their response will be?” he asked rhetorically. “This is asymmetrical warfare on steroids. The response might not be what everyone expects. In fact, we should be looking for the unexpected, as we are about to be blindsided.”

“Do you think that telegraphing our target list and stating that strikes will be brief and limited is by the incompetence of the Obama regime, or by design? It’s by design,” stated my source, who added that this will provide the opportunity to the Russians and other essential assets to get out of the way. “And therein lies the ‘flash-bang, pyrotechnic display of the magic show I’ve been talking about, that is intended to divert everyone’s attention from what’s really about to happen,” he emphasized.

“This is not a ‘zero sum game’ confined to Syria. Again, this is about setting up the globalist takeover of the world’s economic system, killing off the U.S. dollar to have it replaced by a basket of currencies, or SDRs, and controlling all transactional activity everywhere on the planet under one mechanism. It will be done by using Syria as the trigger, oil as a weapon, and striking at the weakest aspect of American power—the U.S. dollar, which has been the target all along.”

“What better way to accomplish this by blaming the economic ‘collapse’ on the ‘unfortunate and unseen’ consequences of a ‘humanitarian mission’, saving the Syrians from a dictator who used chemical weapons on his own people? It’s all a lie, and we’re being played as fools. This is an international bankers’ war that will result in heavy causalities.”

Consider that until Western/globalist meddling in Syria, the country was a relatively stable and religiously tolerant secular state. Today, the Syrian death toll as a result of this Western-manufactured civil war stands at and estimated 150,000 dead in Syria alone. Also, over a million Syrians have been displaced and are now refugees. According to a recent assessment made by geopolitical analyst and former Indian diplomat Gajendra Singh, Syria will rapidly fall into a bloodbath that will make 150,000 dead just a small taste of what’s to come when Assad is toppled. Removal of Assad will result in the wholesale slaughter of the diverse religious sects. Responsible estimates from those familiar with the geopolitics of Syria estimate that 20% of a population of twenty-million will be killed - or a total of 4 million people.

Watch for a false flag

“The globalists are financing all sides of this conflict to assure the accomplishments of their objectives. When things go hot in Syria and the Middle East, we could see something very bad happen in Saudi Arabia, or something to affect the production or free flow of oil, the single factor that is keeping the U.S. dollar relevant. We could see something happen to threaten, hinder or even temporarily halt oil shipments across the globe. Also, with the U.S. preoccupied, China could well move on the Japanese Senkaku islands, North Korea will ramp up their mischief, and other areas will gradually become unglued. It’s all one big transfer of power, transfer of wealth, and a global economic reset.”

“Understand this: the globalist objectives have not changed. The absence of popular support just makes this whole situation much more dangerous, and raises the possibility of ‘false flag events’ of similar historical precedent to change public opinion. Something much bigger than we’ve seen to date. People are just not thinking big enough.”



[-] -3 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 5 years ago

Looks that way. This proxy war with Russia may be at a stalemate.

[+] -4 points by Sybill (-9) 5 years ago

One can only hope