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Forum Post: Wall Street and the rise of Hitler

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 9, 2011, 3:18 p.m. EST by hymie (391)
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According to the following site:

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

Wall Street was very much responsible for the rise of Hitler, who led the world into WW2. Today, Wall Street has been responsible for the rise of Obama, who some now fear is leading us into WW3.

Look at the following links to learn more:

'Iran cornerstone of possible WW3 over Mid East' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beonoKiVYzY

"China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War" Major General Zhang Zhaozhong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPjxeyG-Ztw

BUILD UP TO WW3 - U.S. Military Sources Confirm Iran Has Missing U.S. Sentinel Drone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV1IywlGJQ

Gen. Hamid Gul: US will start WW3 if war expands to Pakistan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH8WUHjo1ms

Chossudovsky: US will start WW3 by attacking Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4p1kD8CZX8

RT: China Says Either WW3 or New World Order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQ70AuoJg8

Zepp-LaRouche Issues International Call to Action to Stop World War III http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20402

We're Right on the Edge of Thermonuclear War http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20602

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[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Interesting comparison. Unfortunately, a valid one IMO. Finding out that Preston Bush and Standard Oil had a hand in the rise of Hitler was certainly an eye-opener. It never ceases to amaze me the new information that periodically comes to light in regards to historical events.

[-] 2 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

Yes, well when they talk about Fascism in the US, its really true. We have had our own Fascists here and still have them, they're just more covert now.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

True. When an accurate history of the 20th century is written sometime in the distant future, I have a feeling it will barely resemble the 20th century I thought I grew up in. I also think my illusion would be far more preferable to the real thing.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

I just hope that we can survive until that distant point in the future.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

'Ah, there's the rub!'

[-] 1 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Accurate historians go to prison.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

Yes, the writer of Hitler and the Rise of Wall Street Anthony Sutton, was investigated by the FBI.

[-] 0 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

One of the more fortunate ones. Good think he was writing the the US, not Europe, I guess.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Ah, let me rephrase that: If an accurate history, etc. Not all accurate historians go to prison. Some commit suicide (wink-wink) and others die in car accidents (nudge-nudge).

[-] 0 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Some accurate historians just get fined and have their faces kicked in.

[-] 0 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

"I did not and do not even today, for understandable reasons, wish to reveal that from October 1928 the two largest regular contributors to the Nazi Party were the general managers of two of the largest Berlin banks, both of Jewish faith, and one of them the leader of Zionism in Germany." ~ Chancellor Heinrich Brüning, the man Hitler replaced.

That's Prescott Bush, BTW.

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

Thanks, and note that everybody is silent??

Funny how when you point out that Zionism funded Hitlers rise to power the OWS majority goes silent.

The fact is Zionism is not PRO-JEW, its always been about criminality, from day one. Even now the zionist movement in Israel is all about stealing land from Palestinians.

The man above (MVSN OWS ZION TROLL) say's read the book. The book is "rise of the 3rd reich" by shirer best book on the subject, and he points out well about Ford/Hearst/Bush and how right-wing USA jews brought Hitler to power in the 1920's.

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[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 2 years ago

It is interesting that the same wall street financiers backed both Stalin and Hitler.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

True, that's why these people are referred to as "synarchists", they play both sides against the middle.

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 2 years ago

yeppers! amazing how accurately they are able to engineer predicted outcomes,

[-] 1 points by Monkeyboy69 (150) 2 years ago

What is with all the conspiracy theorist wackos on thi website?

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

Anthony Sutton, who developed the website on Hitler and the Rise of Wall Street was an economics professor at California State University Los Angeles and a research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

Why is conspiracy theory "wacko"? Why would it be hard to believe that there are absolutely ruthless people in the world who conspire together. Considering the state that the world is in, it seems more likely than not.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 2 years ago

We can prove he wrote the book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

BUT how do we prove he had an FBI file? Link please...or quiet

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

I read that in an interview with him some time ago, this site goes into it somewhat:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/anthonycsutton13may02.shtml

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 2 years ago

Interesting.........

[-] 1 points by Monkeyboy69 (150) 2 years ago

Again ... What is with all the whack jobs on this website ... OWS is a magnet for crazies

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

I must assume you are speaking for yourself.

[-] 0 points by Monkeyboy69 (150) 2 years ago

No u

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

IBM suplied the machines to keep track of the tattoo numbers

[-] 1 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

Okay. Listen carefully all you conspiracy theorists. Hitler came to power because of the First World War and it's aftermath. Read a book or two.

[-] 2 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

Why don't you read Anthony Sutton's book Hitler and the Rise of Wall Street? He was a university professor, and a researcher with Stanford.

[-] -1 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

So that makes that book the absolute authority?

[-] 2 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

Perhaps not, but I find it useful to take many sources of information into account.

[-] 1 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

International Bankers Make Wars

How and Why International Bankers Make Wars

http://bigeye.com/bankers_make_war.htm

"In June of 1919, the victorious powers were in Paris deliberating over the best way to carve up Europe. With each national delegation came a coterie of financial advisors: Paul Warburg negotiating for the Americans and Max Warburg defending the interests of the Germans."

WTF! Over.

[-] 2 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

From what I have heard, passing Glass Steagall is the key to ending the international bankers ability to make war. Not coincidentally, this is also one of the main objectives of OWS.

[-] 0 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Laws must be enforced. It doesn't matter what the law says if it is not used.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 2 years ago

Link that with some kind of proof?

[-] -1 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

See the above post.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Ah, you must be talking about the history books we were issued in school. As if that's a reliable source of info. Here's a link you may (or not) find interesting:

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

[-] -1 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

Not necessarily in school but you are right. Links on the Internet are only about the truth.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

It's a book. Published in 1976 by noted British economist and historian Antony Sutton. Google his name or look him up on Wikipedia. It's not an internet conspiracy website. Open your eyes, man. Not everything you learned in school or on television is the complete truth, although some of you apparently think it is. If you don't trust my link, type it in by hand. Apparently you never clicked on it or you wouldn't have answered so quick with such a smart ass comeback.

[-] 1 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Warburgs were in Intelligence on both sides. One was near the top of US Intelligence and supported the Soviets, the other was head of German Intelligence. Or something very close. Are you suggesting that was a "conspiracy"?

[-] -2 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

Yeah. Okay. You are right. It was all a Jewish conspiracy.

[-] 0 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

I was talking about the Warburgs, not "the Jews". Far form all the crooks mentioned in that article were Jewish.

[-] -2 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

Great, yeah, whatever. Go away stupid.

[-] 0 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

ad hominem noted.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 2 years ago

There's the 1970's version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H3ucvm3x_A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Excerpt from a 1980 interview with Professor Antony C. Sutton, highlighting the capitalist-communist connection.

From Sutton's book 'Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution' (1974):

While monopoly control of industries was once the objective of J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller, by the late nineteenth century the inner sanctums of Wall Street understood that the most efficient way to gain an unchallenged monopoly was to "go political" and make society go to work for the monopolists -- under the name of the public good and the public interest. This strategy was detailed in 1906 by Frederick C. Howe in his Confessions of a Monopolist. [1] Howe, by the way, is also a figure in the story of the Bolshevik Revolution.

Therefore, an alternative conceptual packaging of political ideas and politico-economic systems would be that of ranking the degree of individual freedom versus the degree of centralized political control. Under such an ordering the corporate welfare state and socialism are at the same end of the spectrum. Hence we see that attempts at monopoly control of society can have different labels while owning common features.

And the 21st Century version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fk6qkHs0oM The New American Century http://www.newamericancentury.org/

[-] 0 points by forOWS (161) 2 years ago

Alright. Extreme far-right noise I can put up with from crap cable TV, but not here. larouche.com was the big giveaway. Didn't even bother reading any of the links. Not the same thing happening. However in a way it already did when Bush made himself president for 8 nightmare years. Nightmare for both the many innocent Iraqis who died and the naive American soldiers who also suffered. Bush whipped-up the masses like Hitler did to start a war and kill thousands of innocent people. Just like Hitler. There's your significant parallel in history.

[-] 2 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

I'll never understand why people so willingly accept the propaganda that Larouche is extreme right wing. I defy you to go to his website and copy some information here that proves he is an extreme right winger.

Larouche is a moderate democrat, he is, that is, he claims to be, a follower of JFK and FDR.

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[-] -1 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 2 years ago

This is the type of nonsensical conspiracy theory that only undermines the evilness of Hitler. It's based on an informal logical fallacy called a Reductio Ad Hitlerum. It's also a correlation without causality. It's easy to create links when we really want to. His brother was the nephew of an important Nazi... blah blah blah

[-] -1 points by necropaulis (491) 2 years ago

Wall St had nothing to do with Hilter, You are a misinformed idiot. Obama is not leading us to WW3. If you can't be bothered to put this into your own words instead of handing out 3000 links, that nobody will read, then why should anyone listen to your drivel??

[-] 1 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

Understanding WHO brought HITLER to power is the subject, you can't fight the WAR today, without knowledge of WHO put THE OREO-OBAMA in power.

The same people who put the NAZI's in POWER put the OREO in power. That is the point here.

Thus even while boring, its imperative to know that root of the CIA&MOSSAD is&was NAZISM ( national-socialism) today the USA is corporate-fascism, not unlike what Hitler was told by FORD/BUSH to implement in Germany. That's why today GERMAN&USA are essentially same-same.

FORD(auto/BUSH(prescott us senator)/HEARST(newspaper tycoon) hated communism, and thus they brought HITLER to power, BUSH bet wrong, and in 1942 his assets were seized by the US government for trading with the Nazi's.

There are those in the OWS who don't want you to know these things, but this is the essential USA history you must know.

Today's OREO-OBAMA is to the right of BUSH1&2.

OBAMA was ONLY put in power by the CME to put a black face on WWIII.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

Actually, I would say that imperialism was the root of Nazism. Wall Street is just one component of "The Empire" which has it's main headquarters in the City of London financial district.

The British empire had its roots in the Roman empire, which had its roots in the Babylonian empire.

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

Now your wasting our time, like all good agents of provacteuring you lure in people with fact, and bait them and then switch.

When FORD/BUSH/HEARST engineered HITLERS rise to power they DESTROYED ALL OF EUROPE including the UK.

Which is the original subject, back in the day of 1920's Prescott Bush US senator was an OWNER of wall-st he was one of the biggest bankers on WALL-ST.

Changing the subject to the UK, or RE, or BE, is a complete waste of time.

Today the BUSH empire still controls the USA, but the UK,RE,&BE were long ago neutered.

I figured you for a manipulator as mentioned below, but now confirmed. First you post relevance, then you introduce stupid conspiracy shit that's completely irrelevant to power today.

OK, I have had my say, .. stick with the associations of NAZISM and today's leadership, our problem is CORZINE&OBAMA, the UK economy & empire effectively died 50 years ago, the Roman empire died 1500 years ago,...

Today we're talking about the USA empire, when FORD/HEARST&BUSH engineered the NAZI REVOLUTION, the outcome made the USA the #1 power in the world. That is the subject at hand.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

By the way, the British empire is not, and never was the United Kingdom. It has always been a corporate empire. First, as the British East India Company, it colonized India, gained it's fabulous wealth, than returned to colonize England.

Today, another grouping of banks and corporations have inherited the legacy of the British empire.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

The USA is just being used by the British empire. Most people don't know about that because it pursues it objective in a covert manner these days. You don't have to call something conspiracy theory just because you haven't heard of it before.

The City of London is much richer in (fake) financial assets than Wall Street.

[-] 0 points by necropaulis (491) 2 years ago

So you're against our president because he's not a "full blood"? Do you even know how Hitler came to power(if you can even name the reason why Germany was so mad, I would give you some credit. Seriously go look it up and report.) You have no credibilty here outside of spewing your bullshit

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

I'm against our president because he is a traitor, he's certainly not the first. It has nothing to do with his blood. I had high hopes for him in the beginning. He has only made our situation worse.

Regarding how Hitler came to power, I did look it up in "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler". It claims that Wall Street paved the way for Hitler with the Dawes plan and the Young plan which were both related to (is this what you are looking for?) - the Treaty of Versailles.

[-] 0 points by necropaulis (491) 2 years ago

Thank you for being one of the few who do homework before engaging. Seriously. And your thoughts about the Brits and USA are interesting. I'll have to check it out.

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

Read the book "rise of the 3rd reich" by shirer, on amazon, its the best book on this subject, he's the #1 author on this subject,

The association is that FORD/HEARST/BUSH financed HITLER's rise in 1920's from NOBODY to SOMEBODY.

This is a fact.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

I did read that book many years ago, and yes, those people did finance Hitler.

[-] 0 points by necropaulis (491) 2 years ago

mmkay, you still did not do the simple research I asked you to do. Seriously, Google it up real quick and report what you find. Bonus question: where was he during WW1?? Do some work and I'll listen. I promise you, I'll even go find "rise of the 3rd reich" and read it.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

It looks like quite a few people have come to "listen to my drivel".

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

There are many good people on this forum that are desperate to understand what is going on in the world, and how we got to where we are today.

Thanks for the courage, but note that the OWS-CENSOR's will destroy this post and quick. Don't let this message die.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

Thanks for the advice, I've been there and seen them do that already.

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

The thing is to like/dislike the shit here so we can weed out the shitheads that are have nothing to say, that's the secret of making this forum work.

I'm all for everyone having something to add to the topic, but when your only post ( think MSVN ) is potty talk, its beyond irrelevant. The topic is HITLER and how WALL-ST brought him to power, and that's a fact. If you don't have something support or negate the subject in a coherent fashion, then the reply's should be bumped.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

And what about Obama? When US Joint Chiefs of Staff told him to warn Israel not to attack Iran and start WW3, he said that he thought we would be better off not knowing about it.

Some say the only way to prevent WW3 is to impeach Obama.

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

Never say "I m P E A C H O B A M A" without spaces, that -10 points on your moniker,(ows censorship server) OWS only exists to re-elect Obama 2012.

The whole point of WALL-ST put HITLER in power, is that WALL-ST put OBAMA in power. Wall-St never puts anybody in power unless he's on a short-leash.

WALL-ST makes its biggest money off WAR,

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

More good advice, I was wondering why they dropped me like a hot potato.

[-] 0 points by necropaulis (491) 2 years ago

That's because of priority listing. If a subject is hot, it gets put on top. My main point is why can't you put it in your own words?? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but you would carry more weight if you appeared to have read it yourself and put the links up relevent to what you were saying as proof of research. Not bashing, just suggesting

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

I guess that I think people will be more likely to see the material as credible if it comes from a credible author, such as Anthony Sutton who wrote the book on Wall Street and Hitler, or if they see videos about it.

Me, I'm just some guy on the internet.

[-] 1 points by necropaulis (491) 2 years ago

as am I. But there are also a lot of people who won't look it up out of boredom, laziness, etc. Links won't get your message out. Some knowledge with proof to back it up just might. A lot of people here want to point to various times in history without any knowledge of what actually happened. Researchers( like me) will then go out and argue about why they are wrong or support what you have to say. If they only want to listen to their own ignorance(by not doing the research), then they have no argument for you and should be ignored. I'm not afraid to search for knowledge, bad or good. When the bulk of posts are just links leading(in most cases) to biased knowledge, nobody will listen outside of those in your group. I do apologize for calling you a misinformed idiot

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 2 years ago

That's nice of you, some times I try to write more.

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

That seems to be either the problem of the young and stupid or the trolls. Nobody seems to want to express their opinion, they all want to simply paste a link. Guess what so you know, most of us REAL ANARCHISTS never fucking click on links. Understand?

Click on a link and that site knows where you came from, and knows all about you. While OWS may or my not be watching us, I can gaurantee that that most of these external sites you click on will put your IP and your ass in a database of trouble makers.

SO HELL yes, if you got something to say, then say it and save the external links for porn.

In summary most likely this POST is a honey-pot just to spy on anti-zionist's know who they are where they live... You never know, in fact you can almost know that is the fact, but nonetheless the topic is VERY important.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

My two cents: if someone is referencing a YouTube clip it pretty much has to be a link. The only other option would be to say, 'I saw a clip on YouTube that had . . .' Personally, I would rather see the clip myself than have someone describe it. How do you know they're being accurate or truthful otherwise? Same goes for a link to a two hundred page book like my link to Antony Sutton's book. How do you sum up an entire book in a couple sentences? Again, I'd rather read the thing myself and draw my own conclusions. Your aversion to clicking on links is understandable but truth be told, if you're on this site, you're already in a database of troublemakers. When you first sign up here there's a disclaimer that says don't say anything here that you wouldn't want the feds to read which leads me to believe they're following everything said on this site. Why wouldn't they? I would if I were them and I'm sure you would too. They're probably watching all OWS related sites. It only makes sense. And lastly, at first I blew off the comments about zionism figuring it was just more hate talk. However, as I've been doing a little research (through a link, go figure) I'm beginning to think there may be more to that story than I originally thought. I've always tried to keep an open mind and the big picture, if accurate, is quite disturbing. And very worrying. We're truly at a crossroads in history, my friend. It'll be interesting to say the least.

[-] 0 points by irsfaggot (171) 2 years ago

The 'problem' is your youtube click, could very well be a false link, its easy given that OWS-FORUM accepts HTML to have the link say one thing, but take you to another place, and display youtube, ... too fucking easy,

just saying,

you either know how this shit works or your fucked, ...

its always best if you don't know what your doing to not touch it

just saying

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Agreed. It's always a risk. My curiosity gets the better of me though, so I find it hard to resist. Sure have learned a lot too. Hopefully I won't run into a problem along the way.

[-] 0 points by necropaulis (491) 2 years ago

You do know "they" also know you're on this site, also right?? I don't know why you're mad at me. I was just saying do research, and back it up with the links that got you to the conclusion you have. Most "real" anarchists use repeaters to bounce their location, or more often, don't give two shits about who's watching.