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Forum Post: These Pedophiles Are Our Leaders?? New York Prostitution Ring Provided Minors For Wealthy Elitists

Posted 2 years ago on March 8, 2012, 1:46 a.m. EST by Reneye (118)
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New York Prostitution Ring Provided Minors For Wealthy Elitists

Clients included bankers, politicians, lawyers

Paul Joseph Watson, Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Yet another elitist pedophile ring has been exposed with the bust of 44-year-old mother of four Anna Gristina, charged with running a prostitution ring out of a New York apartment that relied on police protection to provide wealthy clients with minors for sexual encounters.

Gristina’s list of customers “included powerful politicians, top-law enforcement, influential lawyers, bankers, entertainment execs and Fortune 500 businessmen, as well as several ultra-wealthy European clients,” reports the New York Post.

Some of the sexual encounters included the involvement of children, according to Manhattan Assistant DA Charles Linehan.

For years we have documented the fact that global pedophile rings are operated primarily due to demand from rich elitists in positions of power. Cases in Portugal, Austria, France, Chile, Belgium, and Bosnia have all pointed to the involvement of prominent individuals in sex rings, sadomasochistic orgies and even murder.

In almost every case of human trafficking for child sex slavery, court proceedings get shut down or diverted when a clear connection to the elite arises.

In the mid 1990′s, convicted child rapist Marc Dutroux built a secret prison cell in his Charleroi basement where he kept abducted young girls hostage at the behest of what he called “a big crime ring,” which in the 2004 court case was thought by many to encompass some of Belgium’s top politicians, judges and policemen. The reason why it took so long to apprehend Dutroux was that he was being legally protected by these same individuals.

Material witnesses at the trial described “child sex parties involving judges, politicians, bankers and members of the royal family.” Victims that managed to survive (most were butchered snuff style after being raped) verified the claims.

Police actually visited Dutroux’s home and heard the cries of help from children concealed in his basement yet believed Dutroux’s explanation that the sounds were coming from kids playing in the street.

Dutroux was eventually convicted for his role in the pedophile ring but the involvement of the country’s elite was never properly investigated.

The more recent scandal involving Jerry Sandusky also led to rumors that Sandusky had “pimped out” boys to rich donors.

As we have documented, almost every major pedophile network that has come to public knowledge has included tentacles that stretch high into the upper echelons of the global power structure.

On June 29 1989, the Washington Times’ Paul M. Rodriguez and George Archibald reported on a Washington D.C. prostitution ring that had intimate connections with the White House all the way up to President George H.W. Bush. Male prostitutes had been given access to the White House and the article also cited evidence of “abduction and use of minors for sexual perversion.”

In July 1990, a Nebraska Grand Jury was convened to hear allegations that Lawrence “Larry” King, then manager of the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union and a rising Republican Party star, along with Washington lobbyists, had set up a child prostitution ring in which minors were transported around the country and forced to have sex with King, other top officials, and according to victims who some allege were later harassed into recanting, then-Vice-President Bush.

The Grand Jury dismissed the case as a hoax but former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp later investigated the claims and was horrified to learn that they were indeed legitimate.

The operators of such pedophile and prostitution rings are routinely silenced in one way or another to prevent their client list from ever becoming public.

Let’s hope that Anna Gristina doesn’t meet the same fate as DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey, who after threatening to expose her client list was found dead in an alleged “suicide,” despite the fact that Palfrey had complained of a contract being out on her life and had appeared on the Alex Jones Show just two months before to assert that she would never kill herself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WRnJzuqvjc4

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[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Hi Reneye, WOW! Thank you for this post. Best Regards, Nevada

[-] 1 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

You're most welcome. Thanks so much for the interest. Most people look the other way when it comes to this. These barbarians need to be exposed and stopped.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Everyone needs to know this.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 2 years ago

The Three Estates Defined by Wikipedia include a forth Estate which is the Peasant (us, I think).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estates_of_the_realm

three estates: the clergy, the nobility, and commoners, and are often referred to by medieval ranking of importance (as the hierarchy was ordained by God) as the First, Second, and Third Estates respectively. In the scheme, God ordained the ministry, which was necessary to ordain the royalty and nobility, who settled privileges on the more prestigious commoners, or burghers (bourgeoisie) ; hence the frequent references to the peasantry of Europe as the Fourth Estate (disambiguation) — albeit one which was believed to be powerless in the theories of the others. Individuals were born into their class, and change in social position was slow, if possible at all. The exception was the Medieval Church, which was the only institution where competent men (and women) of merit could reach, in one lifetime, the highest positions in society.

This static view of society was predicated on inherited positions. Commoners were universally considered the lowest order. The higher estates' necessary dependency on the commoners' production, however, often further divided the otherwise equal common people into burghers (also known as bourgeoisie) of the realm's cities and towns, and the peasants and serfs of the realm's surrounding lands and villages. A person's estate and position within it was usually inherited from the father and his occupation, and was similar to a caste within that system. In many regions and realms there also existed population groups born outside these specifically defined resident estates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Estate

Nimmo and Combs assert that political pundits constitute a Fifth Estate.[2] Media researcher Stephen D. Cooper argues that bloggers are the Fifth Estate.[3] William Dutton has argued that the Fifth Estate is not simply the blogging community, nor an extension of the media, but 'networked individuals' enabled by the Internet in ways that can hold the other estates accountable.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Estate

The Fourth Estate (or fourth estate) is a societal or political force or institution whose influence is not consistently or officially recognized. "Fourth Estate" most commonly refers to the news media; especially print journalism or "The Press".

Fourth Estate is a traditional term for the press; it may also refer to "the mob" (as in mob rule) or the proletariat.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 2 years ago

Today we would say that there is a blur between the Estates of the State, Media and Church. The Catholic Child Abuse Scandal has been handled like a PR campaign. And this after years of cover-ups. The State apparently has merged in the US where Government People embedded with CNN to be part of the PR/Progapanda Campaign.

I'm just watching video http://vimeo.com/14772678

On Psywar

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

This Alex Jones piece starts out with a prostitution story in which perhaps an underaged girl is ensnared. It doesn't follow that the Johns involved even know this about the girl. Okay I am not here to defend prostituting children.

"Some of the sexual encounters included the involvement of children, according to Manhattan Assistant DA Charles Linehan."

Then Jones jumps to stuff about male prostitutes used by Bush and friends (could be, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility). What I know is fiftyfourfifty has tried to talk about demonstrable crimes of CPS and why it pertains to Occupy and our resident Larouchies/Alex Jones followers are drowning that legitimate voice out with this stuff that might or might not be true and that might or might not involve foster children.

[-] 1 points by JadedGem (895) 2 years ago

Listen up TrollBabies, this is who's butt you've been kissing. Maybe that's how they get them to come here! The CIA grabs some kids off the street of a city like Jacksonville FL and provides little 4 year-olds as party favors. Here I was thinking they were working for chump change because they are just stupid and desperate. Nope, its cause they are real sleazy sickos! These people are who they idolize and this is how they use their power. They terrorize and kill defenseless children and throw them away like toilet paper.

[-] 2 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

Thanks JadedGem. I was beginning to get discouraged. I'm at the point where I want to scream this from the mountain tops. I continually shake my head at how people glance at this stuff and the blinders go up immediately. The elite are monsters and need to be dethroned. The problem is, most people don't even know who they are. I say name them "loud and clear". Thanks so much for your contribution.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

You are absolutely right. Most people simply don't want to know the depth of the evil that has accrued in the places of power in our society. Therefore, they won't even allow themselves to look at it.

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[-] -3 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

"The CIA grabs some kids off the street of a city like Jacksonville FL and provides little 4 year-olds as party favors."

Really? You are a moron.

[-] -1 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

MORON ?!?!?! You are a part of the problem if you will not even consider looking at the evidence. Please see below, my response to breadwinner. If you don't want to contribute to this, then MOVE ON and let the people who want to bring light to this very important problem do their job. Who knows, maybe we are helping to save the life of your child, or nephew or the little girl down the street. You know what the elite do with them, when they're done with them? They kill them. If they don't kill them, these little kids end up chained by the ankle in a small room with nothing more than a mattress and their bodies being used all day long as human sewers. WAKE UP...know who you're being ruled by....and get on the right side of history.

[-] 3 points by JadedGem (895) 2 years ago

I have a cousin who is in the FBI and goes in to bust these rings. They get the kids out but prosecuting the right people is full of red tape. They do the investigation wait a little bit so people don't figure out who their operatives are, then they go get the kids out and arrest the people on site. Then there are months of BS and red tape trying to get at the elitists who were using the ring. Politicians etc trying to plead down charges and keep it out of the papers. It hurts but the guy has daughters so he keeps helping bust the rings.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Most excellent work.

[-] -3 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

As far as the original post - I don't dispute that these things are happening. Child prostitution is a horrible thing. Unfortunately, abductions happen far too frequently and we should do everything we can to catch and prosecute those involved, regardless of their station.

I am only disputing the thought of the CIA abducting children to be the playthings of the rich/elite. That's ridiculous.

[-] 2 points by FreedomReigns (72) 2 years ago

Brice Taylor

Cathy O'Brien

CIA is one of the most corrupt organization in the world. One whistleblower after the next will attest to that. They can't all be fluffed off as crazy.

[-] 1 points by JadedGem (895) 2 years ago

You may think its ridiculous but I don't. Its no more ridiculous than the drug trafficking which everyone knows they did. If you are an elitist pig who wants to make sure you own your lackeys lock stock and barrel, you take them to a little party and let them prove what they are really made of. When you own them down to their very marrow, you help them advance further.

[-] -1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Ted Gunderson, past director of the Los Angeles FBI doesn't think so. He investigated this quite thoroughly, and has a number of videos on Youtube, which I suggest you watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCOF2WmNHOk

[-] 2 points by FreedomReigns (72) 2 years ago

You go Arturo !!!!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

There is quite a story behind this story. Hope you find it enlightening.

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

Ted Gunderson? Yes, I've seen most of his work. Brave soul!!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Guess, the FBI isn't all bad.

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

I think I'm following. Wait....are you....?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Am I what?

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

Oops! I got it now. I thought you might be eluding to the fact that you were one of 'those' people who weren't "all bad". Hehe...I think I've read too many CIA, FBI whistleblowers.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

That is funny, me in the FBI. Actually, its been said that when I wear a suit and my sunglasses that I look like a CIA agent.

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

Hmm...lucky man. I suppose there are worse fates than looking like 007. Hehehe!

[-] -1 points by JadedGem (895) 2 years ago

Actually it was in the news here many years ago. A van with CIA plates was stopped with a bunch to teens in the back they had abducted off the streets. It had hit the presses before the cover-up. No one got prosecuted but the cops didn't have to give the children back to the CIA operatives as far as I know. In this case the kids were saved.

[-] 1 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 2 years ago

where did this happen?

[-] 2 points by JadedGem (895) 2 years ago

It happened in Jacksonville Fl years before I even had kids and my oldest is 14 now. Also I had a friend who was older and babysat a lot of kids. One family I had went with her to babysit many times moved to Jacksonville Fl in the late eighty's early 90's. One of their son's disappeared on the way to the bowling alley a few blocks away. His mom found a bag on her porch months later. It had his clothes neatly folded, his bones had been chemically stripped and stacked and for the final touch his hair was on top. I heard she pretty much lost it after that, which is sad. Her husband was a drinker and she had two other boys.

[-] 2 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

You describe a horrific story, no doubt. But this story doesn't mention anything about CIA agents with a van full of kids.

(also - I apologize for calling you a moron earlier. It was unnecessary).

[-] 1 points by JadedGem (895) 2 years ago

That was story that was printed in the Jacksonville Newspaper a couple of years after the boy's bones had been returned to the mother. The police at the time thought the boy in bag was the victim of some Satanic cult because everything so was neat and tidy and there wasn't a piece of useful evidence to be had anywhere. But yeah, you can't know about a kid being found like that and just forget hearing about a van full of abducted kids in a newspaper. Then you take into account that ritualistic Satanic kills are kinda rare in actuality. The Florida Times Union can swear on a stack of Bibles that it was some horrible mistake, and I still wouldn't believe it. If I told you the CIA traffics drugs would you have believed it? The CIA has trafficked in more than drugs and occasionally they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Sorry, to be a real cool character you got to get yourself so dirty you can never wash off the stink to prove yourself to the 1%. When they say sell your soul, trolling is just baby steps.

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

You went from "The CIA grabs some kids off the street of a city like Jacksonville FL and provides little 4 year-olds as party favors." to "Actually it was in the news here many years ago. A van with CIA plates was stopped with a bunch to teens in the back they had abducted off the streets. " to "One of their son's disappeared on the way to the bowling alley a few blocks away. His mom found a bag on her porch months later. " to "you can't know about a kid being found like that and just forget hearing about a van full of abducted kids in a newspaper."

You are just throwing around wild accusations, with absolutely nothing to support it. You presented the thing about the four year old like it was fact. The CIA has covert operatives all over the world - and you are going to tell me that if they wanted to abduct children they couldn't find a vehicle with regular plates on it?

There are corrupt people in all arms of the government and some of them individually or in groups engage in corrupt and evil things. This I don't doubt. What I do doubt is the thought that there is some master plan that links everyone together in utter silence, and that is holding the media hostage as well. You are talking about millions of people keeping this secret.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

oh dear

[-] 0 points by friendlyopposition (574) 2 years ago

A van with CIA plates? Really - you think CIA operatives drive around in vans with CIA plates on them...does that even make sense to you?

I have to admit, I am a bit intrigued. Please share a link to this story if you have one.

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[-] 0 points by center93 (12) 2 years ago

And how does this relate to OWS?

[-] 2 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

The answer, quite simply is, 'at its very core'. The elite have a lot to hide. This, and their personal identities being exposed, is their biggest fear. Please see my reply to 'Breadwinner' above.

[-] 2 points by sf99er (3) 2 years ago

Gristina’s list of customers “included powerful politicians, top-law enforcement, influential lawyers, bankers, entertainment execs and Fortune 500 businessmen, as well as several ultra-wealthy European clients,” reports the New York Post. If this is not worthy of #OWS protest, then I don't know what is. We are arrested, beaten, threatened, intimidated, and labeled terrorists for demonstrating against the corrupt elitist Banksters who are getting away with raping children and defrauding and embezzling $16 trillion http://goo.gl/I79pg

[-] 1 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

I couldn't agree more. Somehow I missed your post earlier. Why aren't we arresting these people???? Is there no-one in the law enforcement field, or otherwise that will be brave enough to arrest these people? Notice how this is completely out of the news now. When the elite are involved in this debauchery, things and people just....disappear. The world is insane!

[-] 1 points by rayolite (461) 2 years ago

Protecting childrens rights is worthy of OWS. But there is no way to make accountability at OWS, not the NYCGA, no where.

They won't even discuss Article 5 of the constitution, and that would eventually gain the full authority needed to deal with all of the serious problems this nation creates for itself and the world.

[-] -1 points by Breadwinner (33) 2 years ago

No where in the video clip does it say she used minors? What is your source for that information?

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[-] 2 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

ARREST THEM!!!!! Why are they immune from the law???

Why are the elite IMMUNE from the law???? If pervy uncle Herb from a lower class committed these kinds of crimes...he would get ARRESTED and go to jail.

Is NO-ONE going to grow a set of gonads and arrest them? No-one? Is there not one person in law enforcement, government, heck, even the public that will to step up to the plate?

How do we as 'human beings' let these elite pieces of shit do this to our worlds most vulnerable 'human beings'?

If the people that have been put in the positions that are supposed to protect children aren't doing their job, can't we form a citizens group that will show them how its done? We HAVE to DO something!!!! Ideas please on how to form these citizen arrest enforcement groups.....

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Foster Care/Child Prospective Services is not only a big business but it is big charity. The elite get all dolled up and go to charity dinners and charity balls to raise money for Jewish, Catholic and Protestant "charities" that are big in foster care. The elite feel so good about themselves after writing checks to these baby snatchers.You'd not much chance of convincing them otherwise.

Who's immune form laws against kidnapping and unlawful detention are the government baby snatchers, the cops who often help them or do it themselves, the judges, the lawyers...

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

The fact we are still relying on the same group of people to lead the country is all the proof you need that we are screwing ourselves on a daily basis

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

I hear ya! I'm very politically aware....but I have no political affiliations. I call my self a "political atheist".

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 2 years ago

omg ...I just spent 4 hours on the first link to the Franklin-Lawrence King crimes. I ended up in CIA conspiracy speech by Ted Gunderson, the Illuminated Ones, Johnny Gusch, Iran Contra, Republicans and Presidents sex networks.

And that was just off your first link!

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

He he he.....lovely bunch of "people" we have leading our world aren't they. This forum is chock full of great ideas about how to get our world back on track using the "proper channels and legal procedures", but these monsters don't operate by rules of any kind. They see themselves as above the law.

So what is the answer?

I do know that when it comes to anything that we may do, we have to do it under the protection of doing it en masse. No-one should try to take on this issue by themselves. Far too risky. It always starts with exposure, doesn't it?! But you can see how many people have done that already, to no avail.

So, I see OWS protesters to be in a uniquely perfect position. Everyone has access to a piece of cardboard and a marker. I say NAME THEM. Get the NAMES of the .01% elites on these signs with the issue of paedophilia rings. You'll see a mighty big change, and quickly too. Being named personally and exposure of the paedophilia are their two biggest fears. Almost 100% of them are involved. No matter what....these people need to be out of positions of power.

Many of these elites are on the "Committee of 300".

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

I've heard that passing Glass Steagall would do a lot to help. It would eliminate a lot of the fictitious money/power these people have.

[-] -1 points by Middleaged (5140) 2 years ago

Yes, and TBTF Banks are not sustainable. They are like Pirates. They go after financial instruments that are part of pension portfolios, they go after other corporations through their public stock by Naked Short Selling them, they set up state pensions that are unsustainable or set up rules whereby pension obligations are terminated through mergers or take overs, etc... It never ends.

They are pirates or evil pirates. Rape, and more rape. Go ahead and shoot your neibor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of heaven, you'll be justified in the end. One tin soldier is all the is left to ride away in the end.

These pirates and lawyers have written the rules and control the gold. There must be new banking rules. Banks must serve the people not the individuals that work within the system.

Tear down the banks, bankers, the Federal Reserve cronies, the Lobbyist, the rich Politicians. We need a new plan. Name names!

[-] 0 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 2 years ago

I don't know if you can hear me clapping from there, but I'm doing it as loud as I can. Way to land your point like a ton of bricks. Data bricks. I want every single post that alleges 'crazy conspiracy theory nonsense' to have you standing right behind it with facts.

You are hereby awarded the Debate Cookie Of The Day. I will eat it in your honor as soon as I get my appetite back after all the baby rape and kidnapping and surprise genocide.

Most telling quote (so far - yikes!):

“We called the Cranbrook school ‘boot hill’, since so many of us were dying there. Half the children were dying from disease and starvation. I saw killings myself, mostly from beatings. One nun locked a little girl in a closet and just left her there to starve to death. And all of them ended up in the big grave not far from the school.

“But after we started making a stink about this, guess what happened? The local chief and the feds spent a million bucks to build a new golf course, right over the graves of those kids. Everybody knew what was in that ground. Now everyone wants to forget.” (April 12, 2002)

[-] 1 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

I hope you're ok. It sounds like you watched a lot all at once, and its hard to take in. Truth IS stranger than fiction. That is another reason why so many don't believe it when you tell them these things.

The elite could go to jail for a long time with this alone! Never mind all the other crimes. The problem is that when someone tries to do good and expose the elite, they get killed. So what is the answer?

I do know that it comes down to anything that we may do, we have to do it under the protection of doing it en masse. No-one should try to take on this issue by themselves. Far too risky. It always starts with exposure, doesn't it?! But you see how many people have done that already, to no avail.

So, I see OWS protesters to be in a uniquely perfect position. Everyone has access to a piece of cardboard and a marker. I say NAME THEM. Get the NAMES of the .01% elites on these signs with the issue of paedophilia rings. You'll see a mighty big change, and quickly too. Being named personally and exposure of the paedophilia are their two biggest fears. Almost 100% of them are involved. So don't worry about naming someone who may not be guilty. Many of these elite are on the "Committee of 300". Enjoy the cookie, and, if you can handle any more, this is for your further perusal.

MURDERED CPS FIGHTER Nancy Schaefer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gwzNvSGtg4&feature=related

Ted Gunderson was an expert researcher. A powerful presentation on the subject by retired FBI agent Ted Gunderson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCOF2WmNHOk

[-] 1 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 2 years ago

I'm okay, and thanks very much for asking. I actually cried a little bit on my way home yesterday, but my dogs assured me that there is only a limited supply of evil in the world and an infinite amount of good.

I saw the thing about Nancy Schaefer yesterday. So crazy. Incidentally, I know one way to figure out who some of these psychos are... Whoever funded the election campaign of the republican who defeated her in the last election is somehow involved. I watched a speech of hers, and the way that she said that she lost her seat to another republican really seemed to me like the two issues were intimately tied in her head and that she felt betrayed by the entire GOP establishment. Betcha anything there's a pot of evil at the end of that particular rainbow.

Incidentally, the one thing that I kept seeing over and Over and OVER was this 'Well, we can't tell you anything about the evidence, but it wasn't enough to file charges, and then the only person who could substantiate it DIED.'

Seriously? Infinitely wealthy, powerful, sadistic predators with judges in one pocket and hit-men in the other? Kind of makes me wonder if the Hostel movie franchise started out as a documentary series.

My whole view of the world seriously got a hell of a lot darker yesterday. I can understand greed. I can understand somebody being willing to screw over millions of people for billions of dollars. I can understand paying bribes to the EPA and hiring lobbyists to go suck off politicians so they vote in your favor. I can understand using the press as a tool of promotion and persecution while keeping the viewers ignorant of any real issues. I don't advocate these things, but at least I understand them. I even kind of understand how soldiers in war zones who have been indoctrinated to mentally dehumanize their enemies can do terrible things to them after they crack from battle fatigue. I don't empathize, but I do feel pity for that soldier who has lost so much of his (or her) mind.

But this... this whole giant web of... evil...

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

I understand what you're going through. When I found out about this only a year ago, I cried too. I could barely eat for weeks. I just had to get out into nature, take it all in and take very deep breaths. Then I surrounded myself with good people that I trust.

Something I have come to understand, is that this issue goes far beyond political sides. Democrat or Republican....doesn't matter. They're equally deranged and guilty. I don't care....I'm very aware of the political landscape, but I take no sides any more. I am a political atheist.

I feel exactly the same about understanding how the elite act on their greed, the media, and the misdirected and abused soldiers. All aspects of human nature and psychological reactions.

The epitome of evil is right. As far as understanding it? Its difficult....but there are reasons. If you can possibly imagine, it gets even crazier and deeper.

It involves generation after generation, a long tradition of sexual abuse and unspeakable torture by the elite on their own children to "make them strong and successful". The children are also made to abuse and torture others when they are young, and this abuse is used against them as extortion later in life by their 'handlers', who are the few maniacal ultra wealthy at the very top who control the elite families. The elite live their entire lives in abject FEAR of being "found out". Sounds nuts doesn't it? Remember the saying "truth is stranger than fiction"?

You've taken in a lot, maybe that's enough for a while. If you want to find out more, you may want to look in to this further. Research 'Freemasonry' and elite sexual abuse/torture. Freemasonry is the arm that the elite use to reach/control local elite. Also, elite mind control and MKultra. Brice Taylor gives incredible and sobering accounts in her book "Thanks For The Memories", and she has very good youtube vidoes, as does Cathy O'Brien. Andy Pero has lived through an extraordinary life with government and elite control.

After finding all this out, at times, I can feel some pity for the elite, but then I get to where I think, they all reached the age of reason at some point, yet they keep going with these atrocities. They know full well what they are doing, and so, I conclude that they are on some level....criminally insane.

If you do all this, remember to take many quality breaks in between reading to cleanse the mind, and hug your dog :-)

[-] 1 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 2 years ago

Thanks for the advice, I definitely think that horrific atrocities are best digested in small, bite-sized pieces.

Last night when my head hit the pillow, I had the epiphany that oh, crap. It's happening. Somewhere, right now, this crazy shit is happening right this minute. And I don't know where, or how to stop it, and even if I was somehow in that room, even if I had living witnesses and video, it still wouldn't do a goddamn thing. And somewhere, a child is screaming.

Right now.

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

But you are doing something about it. You sent messages back and forth with me, which kept the thread where more people could see it, and possibly we struck a chord with someone else who saw it today, or will see it tomorrow.

Don't underestimate the power of just thinking about it, even by yourself. Awareness has an energy that will come out of it. You may decide to share this information with family and friends., and then hopefully they will get on the net, research and tell another circle of people.

It is what the elite fear, and we can do this if we just keep talking to people...and of course those simple....simple....but POWERFUL signs.

So you see, you've already done a lot.

Regain you're equilibrium....then....onward. Lets see how many kids we can save.

[-] 0 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 2 years ago

Holy shit, still eyebrow deep in the surprise genocide. Wow. Just wow. And wow.

Although one guy does advocate the elimination of undesirables by 'hunting them down with dogs'...

I mean, he was talking about the Indians, but let's not throw the baby out with the cold-blooded imperialist bathwater here... I think the idea may have some merit!

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6614) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

If your definition of 'undesirables' is the same as mine (in this context anyway) then I agree wholeheartedly. Let me know when you start getting the hunting party together. ;-)

[-] 0 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 2 years ago

Hellz yeah. So here's what we do:

Round up all the former contestants of Top Shot, and all of the SCA guys that make and use their own medieval weapons. These are our two teams. We draw 2 targets at random out of a fishbowl of names of these bastards. Each team has 72 hours to find and eliminate their target. They will be judged primarily on time, but with extra points being awarded for difficulty of the kill and creativity.

We'll call it 'Modern Technology / Primitive Justice' and play it on primetime tv, and use the advertising revenue to sponsor food aid programs and (non-genocidal) education.

Just think of the possibilities! Longbow hunting of members of Parliament in Ibiza! Killing lobbyists with trebuchets! I think this may be the best idea I've ever, ever had.

I thought about the dog idea, but then I figured that those freaks have all kinds of crazy diseases and parasites. Poor doggies would get sick. It would just be wrong to expose them to that.

Yeah, I was totally just waiting to be a revolutionary before, but I wasn't looking forward to it. Now I kind of am. I still have no desire whatsoever to clash with the police or ground troops, since I generally consider those folks to be 99%ers that just can't see past the boot on their throat, but I think hunting elite, above-the-law sadistic pedophiles is probably not only extremely challenging, but also a really fun time.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6614) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Now that is finally a 'reality show' that I can get into!! What a great name, too. I'm behind it 100%.

Did you hear about that 'conspiracy rumor' a few years back that alludes to Cheney and his buddies actually hunting people down in Texas?

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Is that where Cheney ( accidentally ) shot his friend in the face?

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6614) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

No, this was a darker tale. It involved one of Cheney's hunting parties showing up at the compound with a "twenty-something" woman. These guys usually show up together generally, but often leave separately and over a longer period of time (just like any typical barbeque or weekend fishing/hunting trip). Long story short, nobody remembers seeing the "twenty-something" girl ever leave the compound. Dark rumors have circulated for years as to what actually goes on down there. But, like I say, rumors. Then came the "shooting accident."

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (25258) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Perhaps a friendly reminder to a friend to shut-up.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6614) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Heh heh heh.

[-] 0 points by Reneye (118) 2 years ago

Hahahahahaha!! You are hilarious MSH !!! Very creative.

When the masses find out who and what these freaks, who are supposed to be our best and our brightest really are, well...they better have somewhere to hide because, they're toast. I know what I'd do to them if I could. If people could go to jail for they're thoughts....then I'd be in the hooscow!!!