Forum Post: Waiting...
Posted 12 years ago on Aug. 30, 2012, 1:42 p.m. EST by richardkentgates
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From the left, right, entities I do not support and some that I do. It's a consensus that we are the complacent culture that is needed for madmen to have free reign over civilization and to destroy that which we build. You tend to appreciate more, that which you work for. Those who do not build, who do not create, cannot and do not appreciate the things they are destroying.
It's disgusting. Our only option is to agitate for the end of all these civil rights violations and wars.
We also MUST agitate for the end if the endless war on terror, that was created when the 9/11 attacks were exploited to perpetrate this attack on our freedoms.
Otherwise you may be right, it will be the end ofthe world.
I never said end of the world, and it's not my video. The internet however, is my line in the sand. The internet is our gateway to world peace. Controlling the internet is tantamount to the prevention of world peace and a propagator of continued global conflict. Such intentions are a crime against humanity.
Well the govt should not be violating our internet, phones or any privacy.
If we give up freedom for security we deserve neither"
We MUST get to the root of the problem! It goes back to the fear created and nurtured since the exploitation ofthe 9/11 attacks. That mentality must be undone in our govt, people, corps.
It will take much efforts, in courts, in the streets, in govt! And it WILL take years.!
The spying has two purposes. Intimidate the general public to slow down the progression of protests, and secondly to Gestapo influential figures such as journalists and organizers.
Most law enforcement is lied to and made to believe they are tracking terrorism, and some are just happy to be shit heads behind a badge. Once the average patriotic men in the system realize they are not actually fighting terrorism but helping to oppress free speech, dissent, and the people, the end will come for the complex. Waiting...
Wow. I think the protests and court challenges might be useful while we are waiting.
I also think much of this fear and security serves the MIC/SIC. So there is a money component. Like the video discussed!
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They ( police ) will see the light when they lose their pensions and are forced to take a cut in pay and hours and personnel and start serving foreclosure notices on each other. Unfortunately that will be after the rest of us are ALL WELL AND TRULY FUCKED - Because "The Powers That PEE" will pay what they need to until that point in time - then there will not be enough money coming in from the population to support these services any longer - and so that final Ax will fall.
The international investigations taking place will lead to the arrest and or detention of US security personal. In an effort to get out if it, they will cry to America, causing an international scene, and out of fear or awakening others will begin coming forward. It only takes one, and that one is going to speak soon.
Yep - one way or another - the septic tank is about to explode. Then we will see a shit storm like never before in all of history.
The Hague
http://www.leakoverflow.com/questions/394886/05thehague3144-dutch-demarche-on-secret-prisons-cia-planes
Moving into mainstream media
http://www.salon.com/topic/torture/
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cia-wanted-torture-cage-secret-prison-official/story?id=16629646#.UD-4nBBSTnY
We have intelligence units in every branch of the armed services. The CIA is only accountable to the president, and whether or not they are even accountable to the president is in question. The CIA is a rouge element and should be disbanded, criminals handed over to international courts and all other CIA employees should be black listed from any form of government employment.
One thing that ALL of these people should take into account.
The Defense(?) - I was only following orders - was thrown out at the Nuremberg trials. It is not a valid excuse and it never was.
I'm counting on that.
Like I say - any which way you look at the world we are living in today.
WE ARE IN FOR ONE HELL OF A SHITSTORM - AND IT IS GONNA HIT SOON.
Agreed, I'd be very surprised if the primary wave doesn't hit by 2014. If the FED acts perfectly, they may be able to delay a year, possibly 2, but with each passing day there are more balls to juggle, and velocity increases with each new ball. At some point a mistake will be made, and it will come crashing down.
A bubble looking for a pin will always find one. It would be in every human being's interest that the dollar crash sooner rather than later. The final impact will be less, and the police state will have less time to build into a more lethal machine.
China, Japan, et al. Dump your treasuries, NOW!
I usually don't do party politics on this forum but I think this thread demands a look at...
Romney's cabinet choices.
GOVT WON'T BRING CHARGES OVER CIA INTERROGATIONS
I get very worried. I believe in non-violence because I've seen what war does to people and families. Everyone loses. The worrisome thing about the US, is that they're waging a war on protest. If the protest safety valve is jammed shut, violence will follow.
If the United States starts a hot war against their people, it might make the french revolution look tame...
The thing I just can't understand is why anyone in public power would advocate for this stuff?!?! They have to know by ordering the instituting martial law and waging war on civilians, when/if they cross that Rubicon, they would likely make themselves primary targets. If I were in their position, I'd come to the rational conclusion that I'd very likely be putting my own life in danger by going down that road. Are they so arrogant and foolish??
It doesn't make sense!
I don't see it that way. When I look at the big picture, I see an internal war between those who refuse to let this country by taken by madmen, and the madmen themselves.
The CIA has been engaging in the drug trade, then there is this. Drug lords don't need banks. Just one more sign that there is an internal struggle.
Could you explain further? I agree there is an internal war in the Government. I've spoken to several people on the good side. They exist, but I still can't understand the logic of why representatives would be advocating and signing tyrannical legislation. I have an idea what it means in the end, but why?
Yes, I'm aware of the CIA drug running. It was a big deal in Los Angeles in the 70s. CIA was bringing in Cocaine directly to be sold, the whole Contra thing. Disgusting...
lol. Ok.
Well, thats just how I see it. We have political figures that are brave enough from time to time that they call these things into view of the public. All I can say is that the article about HSBC gives details tracing the money all the way back to the depositor, and the story suddenly ends there. We have no interest in catching a trillion dollar drug cartel? :D ok, maybe, doubtful.
Allow me to add to that, the money was said to be going to terrorist yet no terror related action going on in south america. With the sanctions, how else is the CIA going to fund operations inside Iran?
There are some good people that have stayed in. There are a handful of mid level military officers still in, probably lots of NCOs, and a handful of people at mid/low level in regulatory agencies, but the latter may only be there to provide good optics. They have no power.
That's true though, the US banking system is set up so that outside (non-US) organizations can deposit funds here especially criminal agencies with no visibility, even foreign owned US banks like UBS are set up to do it. It's a boon for the banks and the government. It's not about what's right, it's about lining their pockets.
Thats a little more than I am suggesting. I simply think that we employ what is now a criminal agency and that it's employees use power and influence to live an exciting life and that maybe a few years of this freakier than fiction life style has made many of the employees lose their fucking minds. This is why I call them madmen. Their grip on reality is gone, fin, nowhere to be found. And some of these people make management long after their marbles have rolled away.
They are betting on the people remaining apathetic and rolling over. Its how they have maintained power for so long.
why? so that obama can continue as dictator.