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Forum Post: Ben Rich (VP of Lockheed) : "We Must Demand Transparency in Technology"

Posted 9 years ago on April 20, 2012, 1:50 p.m. EST by Devoghe (40)
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Quotes from Benjamin R. (Ben) Rich

The U. S. Air Force has just given us a contract to take E. T. back home.”

“We also know how to travel to the stars.”

“Anything you can imagine we already know how to do.”

“If you’ve seen it in Star Trek or Star Wars, we’ve been there and done that.”

“We have things in the Nevada desert that are alien to your way of thinking far beyond anything you see on Star Trek.”

About Ben Rich

Benjamin R. (Ben) Rich graduated from Berkley with a degree in mechanical engineering in 1949 at the age of 25. Rich originally wanted to become a doctor. In 1949 Rich decided to get a master’s degree from UCLA specializing in both “aeronautical engineering and dateing soriety girls.” Rich came to Lockheed in 1950 after recieveing a degree aeronautical engineering. In December 1954 he was summoned to the Skunk Works by Kelly Johnson as a 29 year old thermodynamisist earning $87 dollars a week. Kelly had requested to borrow from the main plant “a thermodynamicist, preferably a smart one” to solve an unspecified problem. Ben Rich’s first assignment with the Skunk Works was the intake on the XF-104 Starfighter. Rich would soon work on the U-2, the A-12, YF-12, Sr-71, and D-21 programs. He joined the SR-71 program in it’s inital stages in 1958, and as a thermodynamicist, personally suggested that the Blackbird family of aircraft be painted black to reduce surface temperatures.

In 1975 Rich succeeded Johnson as the head of Skunk Works and as a Lockheed vice president in 1977. Rich during this period focused the Skunk Works on the creating the F-117A. In 1977 when the XST made it’s first flight, retired Kelly Johnson slapped Rich on the back and yelled “Well, Ben, you got your first airplane.” In 1984-86 he served as interm president of Lockheed’s Advanced Aeronautical Company, after which he promptly returned to head up Skunk Works once again. In May 1990 when the Skunk Works became a independent company, Ben Rich was named the company’s first president and “Chief Skunk.” In December 1990 while the first deployment of F-117A’s were heading to Saudi Arabia for DESERT SHEILD, Rich retired from Skunk Works. ……at Wright-Patterson AFB back in 1993. He gave a slide presentation there and also at the UCLA School of Engineering Alumni speech – he gave on March 23, 1993. At the very end of his presentation, in both of these venues, he completed his slides with the following quote: `The U. S. Air Force has just given us a contract to take E. T. back home.’

He also mentioned, "We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity… ...anything you can imagine we already know how to do."

And he also mentioned at the UCLA speech, `It is time to end all secrecy on this as it no longer poses a national security threat and to make the technology available for use in the private sector.' That's exactly what we're talking about here.

He was telling us about a whole level of aircraft, of spacecraft, of advanced propulsion systems that are so far advanced. He even mentioned technologies that are 50 years beyond even what we could possibly dream of. Now, when you hear that coming from the Director of the Skunk Works, I think it is important to really take that to heart. This gentleman knew something and he was trying to tell us something. And I think this is the space program that none of us have a clue about in the civilian sector. This is what Ben Rich was trying to tell us about.

Ben Rich "father of stealth technology" and former vice-president of the Lockheed corporation made a few statements to Jim Goodall. He said "we have things out in the desert that are 50 years beyond what you can comprehend" "and wont be made public for another 50 years" "If you've seen it in Star Trek or Star Wars, we've been there and done that.

In another interview Jim Godall said this: "Ben Rich told me twice before he died: 'We have things at Area 51 that you and the best minds in the world won't even be able to conceive that we have for 30 or 40 years, and won't be made public for another 50." A friend of mine at Lockheed told me: "We have things in the Nevada desert that are alien to your way of thinking far beyond anything you see on Star Trek."

One time I interviewed a retired senior master sergeant who had been at Groom Lake three different times as an Air Force safety specialist. ... At first he was real nervous, but when he warmed up he told me: 'We have things that would make George Lucas envious.' I know one retired guy who worked at Lockheed for 30 years, most of the time at Area 51 ; he's very proud of what he's done, and he wants the story of the place to be told so that his grandchildren will have some idea of what he was involved in. In the summer of '86 I asked him if he believes in UFOs. He said, 'They absolutely, positively do exist !' I said, 'Can you expand on that?' And he said, 'No, I've said too much as it is.' "

Of course this technology could only come from UFOs. But those statements lead me to another question. What about teleportation (beam me up scotty!) If Ben Rich said anything you see on Star Trek, we've already done, that leads me to believe that teleportation is possible. To a small degree we already know its possible because Scientists did it in a lab with protons. No wonder the ancients thought extraterestrials were gods.

Ben Rich (and the entire F-117A team) won the 1989 Collier Trophy, was a fellow of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA), recieved the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) national aircraft design award in 1972, was selected the 1988 Wright Brothers annual lecturer by both the AIAA and the British Royal Aeronautical Society, and in 1991 was elected an honorary fellow of the AIAA. In 1994, Ben Rich published his memoirs "Skunk Works."....


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[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 9 years ago

Regardless of how skeptical one is, how can you argue with a resume like that?

[-] 0 points by vvvpr2 (-2) 9 years ago

Regardless of how skeptical one is, how can you argue with a resume like that?


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[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 9 years ago

My reply had nothing to do with excessive budgets, fraud, or occasional technological mistakes. Mt point was, considering Rich is a seemingly intelligent, lifelong insider, I'd be far more apt to believe stories of 'Star Trek'-caliber technologies than if I'd read it on some random website.

[-] 0 points by vvvpr2 (-2) 9 years ago

I suggest you visit that "random website" and follow the links to substantial authoritative sources supporting everything posted there. Here is one example, poser:


[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 9 years ago

I wasn't calling your link 'a random website.' I'm talking about websites in general. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder. Quit being so defensive. You obviously misunderstood my statement. I'm done defending it.

[-] 0 points by vvvpr2 (-2) 9 years ago

You apparently learned how to retreat rapidly from the best! You're not by any chance former French Army, are you? Not to lose focus:


[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 9 years ago

Retreat? Good one. Nothing to retreat from. I'm stating something very clear (well, not to you). My endorsement of Rich's intelligence or knowledge of supposed 'suppressed technologies' isn't an endorsement of Lockheed. Know why? Because you made that 'connection,' there's nothing about it in the post. The post is about his knowledge about Area 51-type shit. Are any of your links about 'suppressed technology' or are they about what a massive waste of money Lockheed has been?

You're ironboltbruce, man. Clear as glass. I've never had the pleasure of engaging' you before but obviously you're been banned.

[-] -1 points by vvvpr2 (-2) 9 years ago

You're a regime plant, man. Clear as glass. So there's no way you'll be banned from this forum. The only reason it exists anymore is to sucker Occupy back into the controlled two-party/one-master Demopublican fold:


[-] 3 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 9 years ago

That's great, I mean it. I've been called many things in my life, but 'regime-plant' has to be in the top three. Maybe the best. Hilarious! Wait till I tell all my regime-plant buds.