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Forum Post: VOTE on how to spend the $300k in donations

Posted 8 years ago on Oct. 17, 2011, 1:32 p.m. EST by precipice (220)
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Greetings all, I'm setting up a website where we can post ideas on how to spend the $300k in donations. Post your ideas, and then we can vote on whichever we think is the best. Each post is votable, so we can see what everyone agrees on. That will help us reach some sort of consensus on what we think this movement needs most.

Let me know if you have any questions, thanks!

Here is the site http://www.occupyr.com/Treasury/

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[-] 3 points by frankjr (44) 8 years ago

Can you please post the details of income and expenses online.? This will silence some of our critics

[-] 2 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

+1. need this.

[-] 1 points by RobRob (45) from Manhattan, NY 8 years ago

+2 .............

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

+3...

[-] 1 points by frankjr (44) 8 years ago

No details on the official web site in their finance section. No documents as per today. http://www.nycga.net/groups/finance/

Suspicious.

[-] 2 points by quaker (64) 8 years ago

Precipice, Can you please tell the group who you are and if you have the authority and control of the funds? Or, do you know who does?

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

I bring these suggestions to the NYCGA meetings to help everyone decide on use of funds.

[-] 2 points by frankchurch1 (839) from Jersey City, NJ 8 years ago

Emergencies, obviously. The food is coming in free, I'd heard. Medicine, more tents, even some way to heat.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

do people really plan to be camping out in winter? will we need heat?

[-] 2 points by TLydon007 (1278) 8 years ago

A donation to NYPD as a show of solidarity with them. Maybe 10K?

[-] 1 points by genanmer (822) 8 years ago

in donuts :)

[-] 2 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

the world would be better with more donuts.

[-] 1 points by anotherone773 (734) from Carlyle, IL 8 years ago

Hey i saw a vid clip of where the protesters had a table with free donuts on it for the NYPD. We give them donuts, they give us pepper spray without the container.....

[-] 2 points by Arachnofoil (104) from Charlotte, NC 8 years ago

Hire a lawyer to find out how to actually get some stuff changed and then do it.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

hmm, any sympathetic lawyers to our cause?

[-] 2 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 8 years ago

I think it would make sense for you guys set up an OWS co-op, limited liability, owned jointly by the protesters. Yes, under the law it would be a (non-profit) corporation... I don't see a way around that.

However you do it, OWS will be taken most seriously if it can use that money to create actual employment for people. You should have a whole website set up for merchandise - OWS shirts, OWS banners, OWS bumper stickers, OWS rubber bracelets (maybe some fancier metal ones, as an ostentatious souvenir for larger donations). A bookstore (online and offline) stocked with everything from Noam Chomsky to the back issues of Adbusters. And instead of simply asking the protesters to clean up the mess with their mops and brooms, how about hiring people from the crowd on a short-term basis to make a living wage cleaning it up systematically? As long as it is a true co-op, with no high-paid executives, there's nothing improper about having OWS make money, and it will do much to dispel the canards about the protesters. It shouldn't be so hard to make money when instead of making profit you're making money for the cause from sympathetic shoppers.

[-] 2 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 8 years ago

guillotines, tumbrils etc...

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

YES

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

Sweet

[-] 1 points by bobthesnob (13) from Austin, TX 8 years ago

buy silver crash JPM

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

vote here

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

I like this site.

[-] 1 points by MJMorrow (419) 8 years ago

Lobby to create high paying careers for highly educated Americans; for guys and gals like me, including me. =)

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 8 years ago

I don't want to register, but why not invest in some advertising?

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 8 years ago

Any good startup would be putting that money into growth. Just sayin'

[-] 1 points by SChung (9) from New York, NY 8 years ago

BUY TENTS and use the money to secure space for the winter months!!

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

any volunteers for camping out in wet snow? if so, bring in the tents.

[-] 1 points by riverwoman (37) 8 years ago

Voter registration!

[-] 1 points by suicidebomber (3) 8 years ago

Spend money on plastic explosives and weapons

[-] 1 points by gardenguy (27) 8 years ago

I totally agree that the time is ripe to vote, and I will absolutely visit this site and cast a vote. But will you please consider additionally beginning to rally around a potential grass roots, Purple Finger Vote?

Net roots are wonderful, but what's to keep uncounted voices from obsconding with the vote? Let's consider starting something on the ground. Ink the fingers of all those who mobilize in purple to keep any one from voting more than once. Develop the survey-like ballots in the General Assembly. Print them cheaply, and distribute them online. Establish a coherent voice and much needed consensus. Draw supporters out of their homes into the Occupations for weekly or bi-weekly votes. Maximize a head count by stimulating short bursts of regular action.

Imagine the mass image of a multitude of purple fingers held high in solidarity, wresting a truer Democracy out of the hands of the corporatocracy, where bullying coporations are now judged to be "citizens". Raise your purple finger and be counted should be a new rallying cry!

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

Vote herw

[-] 1 points by classicliberal (312) 8 years ago

Donate it to the Ron Paul campaign.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

Sweet!

[-] 1 points by Monkeyboy69 (150) 8 years ago

Invest in a hedgefund?

[-] 1 points by AntiCorp (187) 8 years ago

Invest it on Wall Street, hire a lobbyest or divide it up so that all protesters get their fair share.

[-] 1 points by booshington (397) 8 years ago

Yeah I think we should hire a lobbyist to represent our interests to congress.

[-] 1 points by cap1 (65) 8 years ago

Maybe use it to lobby congress or...help...some politicians if necessary. ...helping... some corporations probably wouldn't hurt to.

[-] 1 points by mmaguiera (20) 8 years ago

it's your right to vote.

[-] 1 points by mmaguiera (20) 8 years ago

Great idea!

[-] 1 points by j031a (1) 8 years ago

I think it needs to grow more, first. Also forget congress for now, I think first OWS should try to get mayors and city officials with a heart elected. Try to reach people without internet too Other ideas for later... build a warehouse or homeless shelters, a lot of manpower can be donated, maybe even with its own OWS radio station?

[-] 1 points by RobRob (45) from Manhattan, NY 8 years ago

Lobbyist.

[-] 1 points by RobRob (45) from Manhattan, NY 8 years ago

Lobbyists in DC. get them from the inside as well as out.

[-] 1 points by debndan (1145) 8 years ago

Also by setting up workshops and petition drives around the country, we could run candidates in repub and dem primaries and teach average people how to run for congress. then OWS wouldn't be beholden to either party, but show that the average guy can uproot the liars, crooks, and career pols. The average guys could at least ask their opponents hard questions and expose the corruption and hypocracy in our system even if they lost. Our biggest prob as a nation is too little participation by the 99% in the political process.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

I'd love to see a normal person in the elections...

[-] 1 points by debndan (1145) 8 years ago

The 300K could go immediately to pay for filing fees for new faces in the congressional primaries. Congress has the power of the purse, and that's where the corruption is at it's worse. These incumbants need defeated in their primaries, right where democracy starts. Get rid of enough incumbants in the primaries, and the rest will get back to the peoples bussiness, and not corps'

[-] 1 points by teociontu (29) from Bucharest, Bucuresti 8 years ago

egoFree Water labels and stickers for all water bottles that are used by occupiers.

Let it be egoFree. www.egoFreeWater.org

[-] 1 points by JustinKleinrichert (21) from Rochester, IN 8 years ago

Pay the taxes on it, buy what supplies are needed then give the rest to the community... Feed the hungry, buy cloths for kids, draw a random family whose home has been foeclosed and buy there house back, use it to educate the rest of the 99%, give MoveOn.org their money back and only keep the money donated from individuals, choose a random graduate and pay his/her dept, there are a number of things we could do

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

+1 good suggestions

[-] 1 points by Fedup10 (228) 8 years ago

Send it to Washington to pay down the debt.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

washington prints hundreds of millions out of thin air already.
they don't need our money.

[-] 1 points by 722442457 (11) 8 years ago

Why spend it Its only money Give it to someone worse off than you on the condition that they do the same. Who knows where it would travel.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 8 years ago

Freaking port-a-potties

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

gosh yeah, NYC seems to have no public toilets.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

why is this a different website ?

[-] 1 points by redgar (55) 8 years ago

We could donate some of it to the property owners of the park. They deserve thanks.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

They're probably rich, but they'd certainly appreciate some gesture of appreciation.

[-] 1 points by truthhurts (33) 8 years ago

Shampoo for all the protesters. Shaving supplies, deodorant, nail clippers. Toothbrushes and condoms.

[-] 1 points by professor101 (27) from Brooklyn, NY 8 years ago

I think the protesters should be compensated for reasonable expenses like gas to get to the camp site and maybe cell-phone bills if used to promote Occupy.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

Good ideas. I think protesters shouldn't be expected to be babysitted though.

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 8 years ago

Don't feel like going to another site -- but I will say this:

300k is not a lot of funds. It won't stretch far.

I suggest donating it to Colbert. He reaches a bigger base than we ever would and having a vocal supporter might not be so awful.

[-] 1 points by FuManchu (619) 8 years ago

You mean pay him to be a spokesperson?

[-] 1 points by professor101 (27) from Brooklyn, NY 8 years ago

But I thought the movement was against lobbying? Paying Colbert would essentially undermine the essence of Occupy.

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 8 years ago

Kind of.

He has the SuperPac that he is accumulating to push a specific agenda. It already has funds. A huge donation from #OWS might sway where he puts the force of his efforts.

He can use that money in any way he sees fit and if that's mobilizing and pushing the "Get Money Out Of Politics" agenda --- I'm all for it.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

Didnt colbert alreay do a segment supporting ows?

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 8 years ago

Saying it and being outspoken supporter are different things.

[-] 1 points by escort (126) 8 years ago

Nice! +1

[-] 0 points by jansberry (52) 8 years ago

I like this list

[-] 0 points by Frankie (733) 8 years ago

If you can't in good faith send it off to Washington with the belief that they'll put it to best use and spend it in the most effective and efficient way... then you should understand why people don't want to continue to blindly pay more in taxes.

[-] 0 points by technoviking (484) 8 years ago

guns.

lots of guns.

[-] 2 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

occupy reloaded

[-] 0 points by phantom3 (110) 8 years ago

Maybe pay back some of the money being.spent on police overtime to.control you

[-] 0 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

Spend every last penny on educating the public - Advertising on buses, large billboards, TV & Radio commercial brakes

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[-] -1 points by YuckFouHippies (189) 8 years ago

I thought it was closer to a Mil raised? Where did the other 70 percent go? Who has the money now? Did one of the 99% just become one of the 1%? Too funny. You guys are stealing from each other. Bahahahahahah.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

why are you laughing? easy to complain. any constructive ideas? we're trying to help your future generation.

[-] 2 points by YuckFouHippies (189) 8 years ago

I have lots of constructive ideas. But you can help my future generation by teaching them hard work, and fortitude are what the country is built on. Protesting because someone has more pie than you teaches children nothing. You want constructive ideas for how to get your shit together from me? Here you go:

  1. Figure out just who the fuck has access to the money. Put in purchasing limits by function with a process for weekly reconciliation, with receipts.
  2. Allot 50% of the money raised for bringing in some unemployed consultants who will teach the movement how to manage itself. You won't find that talent in your ranks. By our very nature, we are good and we command payment for our time. You need at the very least, an Ops Director responsible for: logistics, security, sanitation, and HR. You also need a Media/PR person so you stop getting mis represented by the nasty strung out pukes with balls in their nose. Optional: if you hate the banks, hire a freaking banker to show you how they work. Canceling your laughable BofA accounts raised the stock price. Fail.
  3. Raise the overall quality of your crowds. This coincides with security, and your ops guy should have already pointed it out, but there should be a check-in station, and clearly visible identifier for all involved. This would aid in locating criminals, and those missing after activities. If people don't follow rules (theft is rampant) take back their arm band, head band, Jimmy buffet hat, etc. Don't provide condoms as your PR person would tell you it sends the wrong message.
  4. Don't invest in capital equipment. You don't currently have a place to store it. Use print services as an example, much cheaper than an inkjet. Leverage the outsource model companies utilize to gain efficiency.
  5. Create a purchasing team. These folks act as both a bulk buying advantage as well as to recruit small companies sympathetic to your plight. Buying 100 toothbrushes online is vastly cheaper than a run on walgreens. And that brings me to another point, sell them the toothbrush at cost plus a small markup to cover logistics. If these hippy scum can afford iPhones, they can afford toothpaste.
  6. Fix the gd website. It doesn't work correctly on some browsers. Like IE!!!! How can you create a following without people being able to interact on the most popular browser.

That should get you through the first 300k. When you find the missing 700, I'll give you more ideas.

[-] 1 points by precipice (220) 8 years ago

lol, hey these are actually great ideas!!! minus the language -__-