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Forum Post: vote now. or we will lose the right. vote together

Posted 7 years ago on March 28, 2012, 11:07 a.m. EST by Recycleman (102)
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We are at a turning point in world history. Mankind has never been able to communicate as freely, openly and widespread.

The problem with OWS is we are not taking advantage of the open lines of communication.

Our general public is blind to us. They are force fed news that is being created by the news shows. They report the news according to their corporate political bias only.

We are not being broadcast. We are being ignored... They limit press coverage. They will not show the protests.

We have reporters in war zones that report everyday with live reports and OWS is kept under cover. The police cover their badges as they arrest us.

The people don't know who we are. The Arab spring does not work here. Anyone that has traveled outside the USA knows that they don't have the choices of communication we see every day. We have multiple choices available to us. Our bread and butter communication was handed down from our parents. TV and the news channels. We are broadcast commercials to tell us what to buy and who to vote for. Radio stations broadcasts tell us nothing. We were told that the news is unbiased by our parents.

They have government channels and online. They don't have phones in their houses. Cable is for rich countries. They communicate wireless because they cant afford hard lines. Their parents didn't have TV's.

Since they don't have the choices their only choice is online. So the public is not told what to watch.

It works so good that they are arresting viewers of Arab spring in those countries. You find that out online only.


They tell show why the insurance companies need to stop reform because of free enterprise. How the profit is more important then our health. They are suing the supreme court to not continue coverage when it is costing them above lifetime limits today.

They tell us gas will be $4 a gallon when our use is the lowest in 20 years. The profits records are continuing to be broken by the oil companies. That is so when it reaches $4 we are expecting it and say o-well they warned us.

They report how jobless rates have dropped. The jobs being created are having lower wages every year. They use temp. companies to hide low wages in corporations. They average wage of a company does not include temp employees. Even though the full time employee is out numbered by temps.

Why They can pay less. No health benefits. No liability of injuries. No regard to length of employment. HIGHER profit margin. More for the 1%.

They will drop the minimum wage. They will tell you that it is not needed with all the jobs being created.

OWS wake up. by being a headless non political party we dooming ourselves to a ineffective movement.

We closed the ports. That should have been headlines for months.

It Didn't make the new that day......

We need to create a voting group. We need representation. no longer transparent.

If the tobacco company wanted change they would donate large sums of money to the appropriate candidate. Blast us with commercials.Then without delay that candidate would push through the new law. We should vote them out now.

Our Republican party has dead locked the congress. They have voted fewer time on new laws then in 100 years.
They signed a agreement to not raise taxes on the rich. The author of the agreement is showing his new book. The candidates are supported by single billionaires.

We should sign our own agreement.

Congressmen are lawfully able to use insider trading legally. Most if not all are millionaires. They have the choice to use government health care. They refused us that choice and now want to get rid of the changes to healthcare that benefit us.

Walk up to a stranger and ask what OWS is.

We need to act before they remove this website.



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[-] 2 points by Recycleman (102) 7 years ago

I live the challenge every day. Besides the 2 wonderful kids that are mine. I have two step kids. I also took on 3 additional boy that where left on there own. I also have two 2 year old grand children.

5 of the boys are 17 to 25 and are living the reality of our world and what we let happen. Starting pay for their jobs is $7.75 range. I don't know how they are ever going to get beyond being in dept. college tuition is so high that some will live in poverty even if they can afford to get through.

When they will be able to get insurance it will cost 2 to 3 hundred dollars a month and that will have deductibles and limits.

The math doesn't work.

We're is the money for food.

Hope those CEOs enjoy the millions at everyone's expense.

I have a hard time explaining that it was different when I was a kid. At 18 in 1983 I made $9 hour part time.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 7 years ago

I'm voting, just not for a democrat or republican. If OWS puts together a slate of candidates to run for NYC mayor and city council, then I'll seriously vote. I know, anarchists running for office, fat chance (which also describes the likelihood that I'd vote for a democrat or republican).

I got this email today from a NY Senator (campaign scare tactic sort of thing). She extolled how she's fighting for women, supporting the violence against women act. Of course the Supreme Court struck down a very similar law back in the 90's (in US v. Morrison), so even if this law passed, it would probably be overturned. This btw is the same NY senator who was a co-sponsor of SOPA (so in my view, the only woman she's concerned with is herself).

So politicians are feigning concern for women in some haphazard attempt to distract us from the things they actually could change. Yet another example of why I'm fed up with politics.

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 7 years ago

Not my republican party. I do not want anyone to represent me.I will not form or be part of any so called voting group.We are effective because we are not a political party.You should Move On or what ever.

[-] 1 points by Recycleman (102) 7 years ago

Move on or what ever. Boy that hurt. If you don't see the politics then you must not read this site. Every part is policy of politics just without true effect. I don't see wall street executives selling their Ferraris due to guilt. Matter of fact the drive to the park just cost you more. Just a little of profit for the oil companies you are picketing.

[-] 1 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 7 years ago

We already did. It was called the Constitutional Convention and the commerce clause, which put corporate power in the drivers seat long ago. Every once in a while there's an uprising which forces the corporatists to throw us some sops, but that's not the same as our vote having any meaning.

[-] 0 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 7 years ago

Perhaps the best thing that could happen would be for this site to be shut down. Then it might force some of the dilletantes here off their asses and onto the streets where they might do some real good for the movement and transform themselves from mere "supporters" to authentic movement activists.

[-] 2 points by Recycleman (102) 7 years ago

Did you read the post. Your vote is getting out there. As far as shutting down the site. They will do that for you. How many news stories make the nightly news. We have to stop censorship. The way to stop it is buy commercials when Americans will see them. Move to the public forum. Hit them where they live. This site is a tool only not the movement. Use more tools. One protest may be seen by thousands. Commercials are seen by millions.


[-] 0 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 7 years ago

If you were serious you would stop the bull shit, at least occasionally get up away from your computer, get out into the streets and actually participate in the movement. It is from there that we are going to change the world, not some fucking voting booth. As the home page of this very web site says, we don't need Wall Street and we don't need politicians to change the world. Do you even bother to read the premises of a web site in which you participate?

[-] 2 points by Recycleman (102) 7 years ago

I see your still at your computer. Get off your ass an do something. Not in politics my butt. Have you read the site. It's all politics just without backin it up. How many wall street executives have been treated as bad as OWS. You don't see other groups NRA silver foxes ect. Being treated this way. They vote together and have a voice. You stop bull shiting. What have you done besides bully

[-] 1 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 7 years ago

I am sorry that I am being percieved as a bully that is not my intention and I apologize. I will try to do better. I work two days a week overnight. On the day between the the two nights I work I hang out on the computer and spend some time on this forum. I usually take another day to clean house and do laundry. I also have extensive health problems and usually about one day a week is shot in a physician's office. After all that, when I can afford to (which is fairly often, at least a couple of times a month) I head to an occupation until I have to go back to work again. So I'm personally not a full time activists and I wouldn't ask that of anyone, but I do think that nearly everyone could afford to get up off their asses, get out into the streets, meet people and engage actively in the movement at least a couple of days a month.

[-] -2 points by VantagePoint250624 (-51) 7 years ago

Simple pragmatic approach....... inform all Americans of all the valid reasons why DC's owned government cannot and should not be trusted.

Ignore the GOP/DNC/Federalist/UN/IMF/FedReserve shills who LIVE on this forum.

THE PEOPLE will not be brought off their couches and to their feet unless they are able to know DC is indeed corrupt and not even remotely serving anyone but themselves.

OCCUPY GOVERNMENT and expose all their misdeeds.

[-] 2 points by Recycleman (102) 7 years ago

Purchase ad time durring America Idol and reach up to 90,000,000 in one venue. Americans need to know the real truth but have had to work to find it. Compare the following of AI to OWS. Reach more people of your target following. Final 8 tourney with direction of connecting to the youth. This is for them.