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Forum Post: Viva The Greek Revolution!

Posted 6 years ago on Feb. 18, 2012, 3:53 p.m. EST by LloydJHart (190) from Vineyard Haven, MA
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Viva The Greek Revolution!

By Lloyd Hart 02/17/2012

It seems the only way out for the Greek people is open revolt. To over throw the government, to leave the Europe Union, default on the debt and get about the business of feeding, clothing and housing the Greek people with an agrarian economy based in family farming and city and town shopkeepers and open markets.

What the Europe Union is doing to Greece is almost identical to what the Versailles Treaty did to Germany but the Greeks, I doubt will create an imperialist fascist state as Germany did but rather as the fascist military regime that once ruled Greece is still fresh in the mind of the Greek consciousness, will form a real and deeper democracy where commerce is not the central organizing principal but only after a brief violent conflict which will toss the Austerity Scam over board and to the bottom of the Mediterranean where it belongs. The deeper I look into the Greek plight I feel a great compassion but also a great hope. In the absence of a government aided civil society as it has been almost completely destroyed by economic fascism, a new civil society is percolating up from the grass roots.

As the Austerity scam continues to strip the Greek people of their health, welfare and homes, the Anarchists, Communists, Socialists and just regular working folks are beginning to see how much they have in common rather than having constant disputes over what tactics will win the day. With hunger spreading through Greece like the wild fires of recent history, food and shelter are the two unifying tactics everyone can agree on. The Greeks are beginning to feed each other as the state has abandoned it's people to the street.

'New Poor' Grows from Greek Middle Class.


Anarchists, Communists, Socialists and just regular working folks must always focus on food and shelter while fighting the good fight but must provide these elements as a matter of fact and without ideological sermon. Most people are not thinking about ideology. Ideology is not part of our human instinct but sharing what we have with each other is. Just as when we take our tribal instincts of tribal defense to a nationalist level we begin to be deluded by imperialist ideologies of nationalist domination of our own people and other nations which we then call a defense of the homeland.

America has destroyed itself with it's own nationalist imperialist ideology. If America were to be judged by it's foreign policy alone, America is a mass murdering thieving pathological psychotic. For the last thirty years America has been turning screws on it's own people to maintain it's tyranny abroad creating the model for what they are doing in Greece, impoverishing it's own people in a fruitless effort to maintain global domination. And thanks to America's psychopathic domination of the global oil economy violently maintaining that all oil transactions be made in U.S. currency, they can then direct global financial traffic to treasury bonds of other nations, short selling a nation's treasuries, getting debt rating agencies to down grade a nation's debt, radically increasing the cost of borrowing for all nation's in America's cross hairs.

The majority of Greek debt is owned by Americans who have nothing but contempt for the European way of life but what the American financial fascists don't want to come to terms with is that Europeans have grown weary of being the uber-race and Greece gave up empire long ago. Europeans have been focused on the quality of life not the domination of it. But America had it's allies in Europe buy it's sub-prime mortgage backed securities with phony Fitch, Moody's and Standard & Poors triple A ratings attached to them knowing full well what would happen to them as they had already seen the bubble burst in 2006 but kept heralding the housing boom as if it would never end right up until Sept. 2008 when it developed into the proper malignancy. When those mortgage backed securities blew up in the faces of the European bankers America had Europe by the financial balls. The federal reserve bank in the U.S. then bribed the European banks on the verge of collapse with 0% cash loans from it's discount window pumping billions into European banks who would then have to cooperate with American financial designs in Europe, the destruction of social and environmental safety net through a completely manufactured debt crisis that now justifies destroying people's lives in the name national debt reduction.

The last time the U.S. and European oligarchs created such a deliberate mess was when they were secretly building up nazism politically, financially and militarily as a military proxy for the purpose of wiping out Anarchists, Socialist, Communists, Jews and most specifically an attempt at destroying the Soviet Union which backfired in their faces in the worst possible way, Still most of the Jews and lefties in Europe had been wiped out as Henry Ford had envisioned and America rebuilt Europe in it's image creating a debt slave it controlled for it's next insanity, Global domination through the cold war and most importantly, the U.S. dollar as the global reserve currency controlling all oil transactions. Krushchev tried to end the cold war in 1954 when he came to power but was refused nuclear arms reduction negotiations by President Eisenhower who was probably threatened by his own generals not to negotiate which probably provoked Eisenhower's "Beware of the Military Industrial Complex!" speech on his departure from the presidency. Eisenhower was also the only general who objected to the dropping the atomic bomb on Japan.

What America did not count on is that Europe would eventually reincarnate as socialist democracies. So cometh the next American attempt to remake Europe in it's own image through it's financial weapon's of mass destruction, the debt crisis and austerity scam. So instead of forgiving debt as doing so would lead to an economic boom, the plan is unforgiving austerity impoverishing millions upon millions creating debt slaves of us all.

Just as in the 1930s the left today is organizing aggressively against oligarch insanity. So, the question must now be asked is what world war are they planning to cut off the lefty overthrow of their. Well, it seems to me they are flipping Arab states to Muslim fundamentalist regimes where they can with the hopes of having Islamic Jihad states to declare war on as the war on terror has failed to capture the imagination of the public. Is it any coincidence that terror attacks on Israelis in other nations around the world are being blamed on Iran? If Iran is linked to acts of terrorism on European and god forgive American soil well the oligarchs have their war to force poor European and American youth into knowing their impoverished families will have something from their individual sacrifice in the war.

With this war with Iran the oligarchs will find a way to spread the war to the newly minted "Islamist states" of Egypt, Tunisia, and Libya and maybe even Syria and of course where ever there are Muslims in a majority. Americanize or die is the oligarch mantra.

This is just one possible outcome of oligarch madness but their intentions are to remain in control and to radically lower our collective standard of living till we beg for scraps from their ever splendid dining table that is not theirs to steal form the rest of us.

This why the Greeks must revolt in such a away as to teach the rest of us that a socialist, ecologically sound democracy with standing armies banned, is the only form of government we can afford. A government that simply provides services such as universal healthcare and environmental regulation but without the trappings of nationalist zealotry.

The debt crisis and austerity that are artificially being imposed on the world are nothing but an organized crime from the world's wealthiest people and for this crime against humanity these people should lose everything and be put in the jails they are now privatizing and building for us that refuse to go along with their global domination plans.

So, I beg you Greece, please knock the first domino down, overthrow your government, default on your debt and feed, cloth and house your people with your own natural resources in the dignity they deserve and forget about the rest of Europe. Their nations are ruled by assholes anyway and need to have their own revolts.

Viva the Greek Revolution!



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[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 6 years ago

To further compliment this important 'forum-post', please also see :

"Gnothi Seauton" ....

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 6 years ago

@ LJH : I appreciate your excellent 'dot joining' post, further to which I re-post the following :

The Greek 99% were denied their promised referendum and are actually now being ritually sacrificed at The High Altar of 'Bankster Ponzi Finance Kaputalism' and are being forced to suffer extreme austerity, deprivations and hardships, purely to maintain for a little while longer - The Illusion of Pan-European and International Banking Solvency.

The reality of 'Innovative Financial Products" ; of Mortgage Backed Securities, Collateralised Debt Obligations, Credit Default Swaps (apparently 'Insurance Contracts on Debt Default' but actually just bets!) and other such "Derivatives" - are fast catching up with 'International High-Finance Capitalism'.

All this Unconscionable BS is based on and "derived" from the buying and selling of Compound Interest Bearing Usurious Debt, which up until now was 'controlled' by the totally artificially induced 'Business Cycle' {the ritualised regular contraction after the expansion of 'the economy' and 'money supply'} - but now the ever 'geometrically progressing' Compound Interest, means that there's Not Enough Money In The World To Pay All The F*ckin' Debt !

The Abstraction that is £MoNeY$ has now abstracted itself into the notional cyber 'hyper-reality' of 'Credit' and 'Debit' via The Tyranny of Electronic Double Entry Bookkeeping, such that All of us Everywhere are ensnared in The Mysterious & Medieval, Mythical Money-Matrix ... We All Need To 'Swallow The Red Pill' ; "Unplug" and Take A Good Look Around !!

For example, The Greeks need to reclaim their Democracy from their own Treacherous, Quisling 0.01%, who have sold their country to The International (in this case mainly Franco-German) Scum Bankster Parasites. They should Immediately Default ; Offer a maximum, notional and honourable 1:10, 10% on their Onerous and 'Odious Debt' ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odious_debt ) ; Reinstate The Drachma ; Demand A Referendum On These Matters ; NATIONALISE THEIR CENTRAL BANK & currency issue and reclaim their Country, Democracy, Integrity and Sanity !!!

I recommend this clever, insightful and useful individual and his website = http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/ as well as The Excellent Documentary Film, "INSIDE JOB" : http://documentarystorm.com/inside-job/ . In The UK, this year - 2012 'AD', is "The Diamond Jubilee" - 60 years of the now 86 year old Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg Gotha, Battenberg (Windsor) being 'HRH Mrs. Queen' & it's a Olympic and Leap Year too !

Wherever it is that WE are in The World, WE should all urgently start to realise and reclaim concepts of "The Jubilee", which is an Old Testament word for celebrations and festivities arising from the regular, every 49 years, remission of debt and usury !

Back then The Wise Ancient Israelite Elders knew and understood that 'Intergenerational Permanent Debt Bondage' was a very bad thing and to be prevented. Sons could pay their fathers' or even grandfathers' debt but that anything else was Unconscionable !!

SOLIDARITY to The Greeks and to The 99% 'Wage Slaves in Debt Bondage' - Everywhere !!!

Viva Greece & Ζήτω η Ελλάδα ...

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

Americans should do everything possible to spend money in Greece in their time of need. Perhaps we could make a point of vacationig there, particularly if the Greek People clearly understood the intent of such an action. I think for those capable of it, becoming directly involved in the Greek cause would be tremendously beneficial for us as well as them.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

The largest problem that the Greek face is a economically weak world payroll. They are largely dependent on tourism. No income no tourists. Thank you corrupt powers.

[-] 1 points by kylelee34 (48) 6 years ago

The majority of Greek debt is owned by Americans who have nothing but contempt for the European way of life <<

The largest single holder of Greek debt is Greece itself, the US only holds 3% of Greek debt. If Greece defaulted on it's debt it would bankrupt it's own social security system which is made up almost completly of Greek bonds, and end up with more austarity.


[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

This is an aside from your comment, but the word "austerity" in this context bothers me. I think it is one of those weasel words we have been conditioned to adopt to hide ourselves from stark realities. Austerity here means poverty.

We use hundreds of such weasel words now, and I don't like them.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5128) 6 years ago

I do not like them, either. Poverty measures sound so much more realistic.

Most investors know fully well that when they have parted with their money, they may very well never see it again. That is just what we call risk and the whole point of investing is to assume risks in return for potential rewards.

While much of the responsibility for the economic mess in Greece rests on the shoulders of Greeks, especially political leaders past or present, the investors who knowingly have taken the risks definitely share some of the responsibility. If Greece were to default, it would not be the first country to do so, either. A number of other countries had defaulted before and worked themselves back into the good grace of the global financial community. However, Greece defaulting could rip a thread off of EU's fabric and may have unintended consequences. Calmly and clearly thinking about the consequences is advisable. What would happen to euro-denominated debts if the drachma came back and the exchange rate changed drastically? Who would be left holding the bag? How easy or hard would it be to do business with the EU? It would have been better if Greece were ruled by perspicacious tightwads over the years so the "sins of the fathers" do not accrue to the sons but that is just wishful thinking. It is time to think about what to do, not thinking about how slight adjustments could have made huge differences by now. The U.S. can definitely learn from the experience.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

All of these are legitimate questions, but the real underlying question is, how are the people of the world going to get the foot of the global finacncial elite off of their throat?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5128) 6 years ago

If control of the currencies is what the global financial elite holds as the big club, the simplest counter-measure would be the creation of tens of millions of new local currencies exchangeable only within a small group of people. How about the creation of a kind of college dormitory-like community where people exchange and pool their resources in ultra-local currency domains? To begin, one can start with the preparation of meals for members of the small group and have small subgroups take turns. Giving and receiving meals is one easy way to share and connect with people.