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Forum Post: VERY IMPORTANT-- Please Read -- Will Obama commit Treason?

Posted 6 years ago on March 2, 2012, 1:19 a.m. EST by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL
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From Dictionary.com -- Treason - the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery

http://occupywallst.org/forum/goodbye-first-amendmen-trespass-bill-will-make-pro/

http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/

From the article:

"Now that the act has overwhelmingly made it through the House, the next set of hands to sift through its pages could very well be President Barack Obama; the US Senate had already passed the bill back on February 6. Less than two months ago, the president approved the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, essentially suspending habeas corpus from American citizens. Could the next order out of the Executive Branch be revoking some of the Bill of Rights? Only if you consider the part about being able to assemble a staple of the First Amendment, really. Don’t worry, though. Obama was, after all, a constitutional law professor. When he signed the NDAA on December 31, he accompanied his signature with a signing statement that let Americans know that, just because he authorized the indefinite detention of Americans didn’t mean he thought it was right.

Should President Obama suspend the right to assemble, Americans might expect another apology to accompany it in which the commander-in-chief condemns the very act he authorizes. If you disagree with such a decision, however, don’t take it to the White House. Sixteen-hundred Pennsylvania Avenue and the vicinity is, of course, covered under this act."

Very Important: Sign this petition, please!!!

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/veto-trespass-billhr-347-and-save-first-amendment/5N6gzG57

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[-] 2 points by TheRapist (36) 6 years ago

If Obama was a rapper, that would be treason. This is just a little miscalculation.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

Thank you for sendng us this link. These actions on the part of Obama are indeed troubling in the extreme. Even if he himslef does not intend to act on such felonious legislation, he is leaving the door open for others to do so, and that is inexcusable

If he signs this legislation, without using his power of the line item veto, I would find that very detramental to all of our hopes for a relatively non-traumatic transition to a restored democracy . . .

However, George Bush Jr. Commited treason once a week and twice on Sundays. There has been no comparison between the two administrations in this regard. The flaming contempt for democracy and the rule of law in the Bush administration was unprecidented in our history, and Obama isn't even close in that regard.

[-] 0 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago

I actually have been/am an Obama supporter. I know this is nothing compared to what W did. But since this treasonous bill was passed by treasonous Congress, we will just have to see if Obama will commit treason too. If he does, the only hope would be the Suprene Court ruling it unconstitutional.

This is actually a much bigger deal than people realize. Will the American people ever wake up? The uNIGHTed Statezzzzzzzzzzzzzz blissfully sleeps in their crib.

[-] 0 points by GypsyKing (8719) 6 years ago

I know. What must one do to wake them up? They're like Rip Vanwinkle on an overdose of valium.

[-] 0 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago
[-] 0 points by RedSkyMorning (220) 6 years ago

Treason is the act of helping our enemies. I believe our actions in Syria are a better qualifier.

What you speak of here is abuses of power, no less important, but different. He should be impeached for both.

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago

From my perspective, if Congress and the Prez pass such acts into law, they are enemies of the American people.

Let me tell you something (and anyone else who reads this) right here and right now. When anyone runs for, and attains, public office, then they become public property. If they are unwilling to put themselves at possible personal risk, then they should not seek office. This has been passed by Congress under the guise of increased protection of those under Secret Service watch. But it strips away in one fell swoop one of the very pillars of freedom --- the 1st Amendment (there is a reason why it was placed first). It says "Congress shall make no law respecting...the right of the people peaceably to assemble..."

If elected officials are unwilling to be placed in personal jeopardy and risk possible assassination, then they should not seek public office. Better that than remove the freedoms of We The People.

And check this guy out. He knows the truth. Enemies foreign and domestic.

http://tvnewslies.org/html/all_enemies__foreign_and_domes.html

[-] -1 points by RedSkyMorning (220) 6 years ago

I understand what you are saying, but "treason" has a legal definition as well does "abuse of power." The petition is stronger if it is using correct terms to air our grievances.

[-] -1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago

The petition nowhere uses the word "treason", even though it is my personal belief that Congress has committed treason in passing this bill, and Obama will commit treason if he signs it.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33651) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Done - Signed, twittered placed on Facebook and copied off the body of the petition and sent it in to the Obama campaign site as well.

http://www.barackobama.com/contact-us/

[-] -1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago

Bravo! Thank you very much. This needs very wide publicity!

Everone who reads this, PLEASE do what DKAtoday has done.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33651) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Thank you for the petition. This is direct action that anyone can take who has internet access. We need to talk to government. We need to flood the halls of power with our voices. Public protest is good as it lets the public at large know that we have not and will not go away. Petitioning and directly contacting your representatives your elected officials can only strengthen our cause.

[-] 2 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago

Just for the record, I did not create the petition. Thank God, some other patriotic American was on top of this ahead of me. Whoever they are, they are to be commended for taking action.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33651) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

You may not have created it but you did put the link out for participation. So thanks for the petition.

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago

No thanks is needed, but I appreciate it. Only doing my civic duty.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33651) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

So should we all.

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 6 years ago

Might I enquire, are you a member of the ACLU? I used to belong back in the 70s-80s, then I dropped it. I am going to join again, because if we ever needed an org fighting for our civil liberties it is now!!! They might need to argue this in the Supreme Court. They need to argue the Patriot Act there as well.

I have a very hard time believing what has happened to our country.