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Forum Post: US Troops going to Israel

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 5, 2012, 11:04 a.m. EST by Scout (729)
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" Calling it not just an “exercise”, but a “deployment”, the Jerusalem Post quotes US Lt.-Gen Frank Gorenc, Commander of the US Third Air Force based in Germany. The US Commander visited Israel two weeks ago to confirm details for “the deployment of several thousand American soldiers to Israel.” In an effort to respond to recent Iranian threats and counter-threats, Israel announced the largest ever missile defense exercise in its history. Now, it’s reported that the US military, including the US Navy, will be stationed throughout Israel, also taking part."




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[-] 8 points by streetpeople (9) 12 years ago

This is more proof that we are fighting Israel's wars and doing their dirty work....we need to drop the evil zionist parasite welfare state and do it as soon as possible....Israel only sucks American lives and money out of the USA....

America...know that your tax dollars go to Israel - over three billion a year. Also know that zionist jew bankers receive billions of your tax dollars via bailouts...

zionists are hated because they manipulate and control international finance and are the agents (cause of and instigation) of revolution and war....

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago


we're could be fighting someone else's war

as long as we continue building munitions

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 12 years ago

"zionist jew bankers"

The EXACT phrase Hitler used. Congratulations. You are officially a Nazi.

[-] 2 points by streetpeople (9) 12 years ago

Well since you bring up Hitler, who I do not support...what about Trotsky and Lenin - two jewish heroes who killed many more Christians (many millions were sent to the gulag) than Hitler and the holofraud....

And as far the zionist jew bankers comment - that's exactly what they are, isn't it? Madoff, Blankfein, Greenspan, Bernanke, Weill, Dimon, Soros, Strauss Kahn, Rothschild, Stumpf - I could name a million more if you want me to...should we call them international jewish bankers? You don't think these bankers support Israel? Most of them have gone on record stating they support Israel....I am sure most of these men (or the company/organization they are linked with) have also donated money and/or influence toward some sort of military action or government as well.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 12 years ago

Antisemitism has a long history before Hitler came along.. "Jews" or people who call themselves Jews are not always victims....People forget about the influence and power of the Rothschilds and the Wars that they made profit from.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 12 years ago

Jews were collectively the poorest group of people in all of Europe other than the Gypsies, yet they were always the ones accused of being the rich bankers.

One Rothschild is not 14 million people.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 12 years ago

Well it wasn't just one Rothchild..and they may have actually been converts to Judaism...It is said the Rothschilds came from this place:


and weren't actually Jews but converted for many reasons...Unfortunately all the Jews get the blame for these bad apples..

These people still are in control..

[-] 1 points by Scout (729) 12 years ago

you don't need to be a nazi to be wise about these people because some have already confessed to the tricks they use! The genie is already out of the bottle -this is out of the horses mouth! ha ha


[-] 1 points by truth2012 (43) 12 years ago

If you like that one, I think you'll like this site.


[-] 1 points by nattyraney (15) 12 years ago

where did the word nazi come from? this german girl i met said that the germans never used that word.

could it be.... from the term......... ashkeNAZI , which is the racial term for white NON SEMTIC jews.... which comprise 90% of all jews.. according to the Jewish Encloocypedia ....

maybe u are the NAZI ? and u might even be an ANTI SEMITE if you support the ANTI SEMETIC nation of Israel that is ethnically cleansing the SEMETIC palestinians....


[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 12 years ago

You are psychotic.

Take your meds.

[-] 0 points by nattyraney (15) 12 years ago


thank you for proving me right. You are so scared of people knowing the truth huh? don't worry , you anti semites frauds will be gone soon and the true semites will be free.

:) we're gone win this time and win BIG

[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 12 years ago

You piece of shit. Nazis (yes the very ones your girlfriend can't identify - how morally convenient) killed most of my family. What was left of my family was permanently damaged, scarred beyond imagining.. Nazis existed, it is what they called themselves, and you are one of them, you fucking insane scumbag asswipe. You are an obscenity.

Get some help.

[-] 1 points by Scout (729) 12 years ago

don't forget there's always two sides to every story! Isn't it curious that Nazi Germany, North Korea and Iran have such hatred and contempt for the Jews? There must be a reason


[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Indeed there are two sides. The logical and scientific side, and the illogical conspiracy theorist side.

[-] 0 points by Scout (729) 12 years ago

nothing conspiratorial about the way these people are behaving! for example there's nothing indisputable that Ben Shalom Bernanke is a Zionist Jew

[-] 0 points by nattyraney (15) 12 years ago

Scout.. oh my goodness... u said his middle name!!!!

you must be an evil anti semite! for shame!!!

Please do not mention Rahm Israel Emanual.

or any of the other Neo cons.. or Rabbi Dov Zachiem who ran the pentagon budget during 911... and "lost" 2.3 trillion...

please do not do that

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

You're a smart post epa1nter. Don't waste you're time with these conspiracy theorists. They are young and stupid. They are at an age when they should be going out and getting laid, but they stay home and surf Alex Jones websites and play StarCraft instead. They are really not worth it.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 12 years ago

Young and stupid is forgivable. Bald faced racism isn't.

But i agree; they are not worth the shit stains in underwear.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Ignoring them does not equate forgiving them. I'm suggesting you ignore, not forgive.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 12 years ago

I am tempted to quote the one about all that is required for evil to win is the silence of good men, but then I think. these are just pissants: why bother?

Soooo....... Point taken.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

That quote would be overkill in this context. These are just children on a forum. When they start acting up in the streets it will be time to pay attention.

[-] 0 points by NightShade (163) 12 years ago

There you go, racial profiling again. Calling someone a Nazi is like calling someone a lost puppy these days. *Rolls Eyes.

[-] 1 points by nattyraney (15) 12 years ago

the more they talk the more the humiliate themselves and help us reveal the truth. I feel sorry for them.

[-] 0 points by nattyraney (15) 12 years ago

You mean the Sonder Kommando's? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando

The AsheNAZI jews who did most of the killing? I am very sorry for your family. Growing up an orphan is hellish.

You must really hate jewish people..... sad and you're an ANTI SEMITE too.... wow. you make me sick!

[-] 0 points by Scout (729) 12 years ago

have you seen this one ? ha ha


[-] 1 points by nattyraney (15) 12 years ago

thank u Scout, that is an old favorite that got me started down this rabbit hole.


Operation Ringworm is my latest find. When the Israeli ashkeNAZI's decided to bombad 100,000 Semitic (arab) jewish children with radiation because they were "dirty" 6000 died right away

[-] 1 points by Scout (729) 12 years ago

and gives a America a very bad name!

[-] 2 points by toukarin (488) 12 years ago

Basically none of the wars fought in our name have been of our choosing... Just the military industrial complex at work...

It makes me wonder that while we could infiltrate a country like Pakistan... which actually has a regular army, airforce and navy (armed by us in part) and kill Osama Bin Laden with such impunity... why did we need to commit to an all out invasion in Afghanistan? Its not like they had WMD's... and after all that... I am not even sure what the war in Afghanistan has accomplished... all I hear nowadays is about how the Taliban must be part of any peace process... didn't we go in to get rid of them?

Now we enter Israel... to fight their war against Iran?

We need to stop putting our young men and women in harms way for other people... especially people who are clearly capable of defending themselves...

Before the government decides to go off 'liberating' another country from whatever tyrants and/or extremists (real or imagined) that are in charge there... they would do well to remember that Charity begins at home.

[-] 0 points by Rico (3027) 12 years ago

The military-industrial complex is no longer even as large as the healthcare complex. Go take a look at where our tax dollars go. There's a still a lot in defense, but it no longer dominates our budget, and it's on the decline.

Isolationists like yourself are simply selfish.

As long as there are bullies on the playground, the biggest kid has a moral responsibility to help the smaller kids. It's convenient to say "not my problem," but it's not moral. Like it or not, we are the biggest kid on the playground, and we spend a lot of time providing security services. Sometimes it's in direct conflict where we take on the bully directly. Other times, it's a warning that if the bullies mess with someone, they will have to deal with us.

I am ex-military myself, and my daughter is active duty today. She and her peers in the military agree with the view of America as a moral power. She joined not to advance American hegemony, but because she saw that the US military is often the first on scene in a natural disaster, that we fought to stop ethic cleansing in the Balkans, that we fought to free the people of Iraq and are doing the same in Afghanistan, and that we are helping spread freedom by our support of the Arab Spring. These are not necessarily the reasons of her Commander in Chief, she doesn't know what those reasons are (few of us do because we don't see the daily intelligence briefs), these are the reasons why she is willing to fight.

Pakistan let us come in and get Bin Laden over their "objections." If you understood politics in Pakistan, you'd understand how touchy the situation of their government is. They let us come in and get Bin Laden because they wanted him stopped, but they couldn't do it without inciting further unrest in their own country. After we got him, they complained about our intrusion, and all sides were happy.

The root cause of 9/11 and other such events is the large population of young males in Middle Eastern society who are unemployed and see no future. Such men are almost always the source of violence, and they are preyed upon by various factions offerring them solutions. In this case, it was the extremist wing of Islam that convinced them they were poor and their rulers rich because of corruption by America. The tactical response to 9/11 was to hammer Al Queda until their power was substantially diminished. The strategic response addresses the root cause, and that's the lack of freedom and opportunity in the Middle Eastern states.

We have been on a campaign to bring the societies of the Middle East into the 20th century. First, we planted a couple of Democracies in the Middle East. The first was in the kurdish region of Iraq which we have been protecting since the first gulf war and which now has a thriving society. We then planted Capitalist Democracies in Iraq and Afghanistan under somewhat false pretenses (we couldn't very well tell Saudi Arabia and our other friends in the region that our real goal was to transform their society). If you don't think nation building works and can transform a region, consider were all the big emerging economies originated: Great Britain's India, Singapore, and Hong Kong as well as America's own Japan, Germany, Taiwan, Philippines, and South Korea. The freedom and prosperity created by these nations has 'infected' the nearby nations. We ended up "defeating" the Soviet Union and are well on our way to "defeating" China as a result.

We have also been working hard to get the people of the Middle East to do their own nation building. We used our Anonymous, Thor, and long range base-station technologies to connect the people to the world and have been working hard to promote the Arab Spring.

The last big issue in the Middle East is Iran. She is a fascist state ( see the definition at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism if you don't believe this ) that is using hatred of external nations (Israel and the US) to justify her government. She has used the language of genocide and, according to the UN (not just the USA), she is now trying to get her hands on the bomb. She had an Arab Spring moment of her own a few years back which the government suppressed, but she's about to have another, and this one will likely be successful; this round of sanctions has hammered Iran's currency by 20% and people are rushing to spend their money the moment they get it (this was before the last round of sanctions by our own Treasury and the European Union's ban on Iranian oil imports). Expect to see uprising coincide with the May 2012 legislative election ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_legislative_election,_2012 ). In this election, the people of Iran get to decide if they want to remain outside the community of nations or if they want to join us and adopt a more reasonable stance.

There are no more nations needing liberation. We just need to keep Iran from doing anything extreme until her people can fix the problem. Once the region is free, the people will move the oil dollars currently held by the "1%' away from the despots, and their economies will improve rapidly. As unemployment falls and people transition away from governments they see as instruments of the US, the root causes of terrorism will have been addressed.

Yes, charity begins at home, but we are rich and we need not chose between the welfare of our own citizens over the welfare of the world. See my post at http://occupywallst.org/forum/on-fairness/ .

[-] 2 points by Vooter (441) 12 years ago

They should probably stay away from the buses in Tel Aviv....

[-] 1 points by Scout (729) 12 years ago

They should probably stay away period !!!

[-] 1 points by nachosrulz (63) from Eureka, CA 12 years ago

wow that dose it i was going to join the military in may now i cant help but think were the bad guys here.

[-] 2 points by Scout (729) 12 years ago

I can understand your point completely! I wish the rest of America would understand what you have understood


[-] 0 points by ciaoant1 (16) 12 years ago

Oil wars - The stakes are higher than just Iran:

as the dollar -and the rest of the fiat currencies- are losing their value due to money printing, we are approaching a point where the world will simply reject them, and the West will not be able to have oil - at least not at "reasonable" prices by today's standards.

This is why the USA "must" attack all the oil states who try to break free from the dollar, and start accepting other means of payment - because no mater how much it costs them to go to war, it will cost them a lot more if the world finally gets of the "dollar standard", and the value of the dollar goes to almost zero.

The main thing that prevents the oil states from rejecting the dollar right now is their fear of being attacked by the USA - if that fear goes away, then they will be free to choose what currency to accept as means of payment.




[-] -2 points by Joeboy32 (72) 12 years ago

It's all about the movement of global power.

Started in Egypt and moved to Europe then to America and now it's slowly advancing it's way to Israel.

Israel is where the next global power structure will be maintained by the new world currency that will be completely electronic. paper money will cease to exist all together and be replaced by this new advanced currency.

that's what this is "all" really about. Wars are the greatest of distractions to keep nations preoccupied with their own problems that are a result of these continuing wars.

we put too much focus on right now instead of later on and never prepare for what's coming. The Global Elite are preparing for the years to come because they've already established and arranged what will happen for 2012 and 2013. They are ahead of us because they have the "time" to be, while they constantly keep you busy with your comfortable lifestyles that you can never truly keep up with.

We focus on materialistic luxuries, movies with no real messages and fantastic influences as well as celebrities and their non-realisitic lives. Sports, American Idol, Reality T.V. and Corporate News are all aligned for the sole purpose of controlling what you believe is "right versus wrong" and "good and bad".

The power of influence is great and this is what we must first destroy completely. Not only must you read books and speak more with people in society, but also use your brain as human beings. We are a great and powerful species capable of amazing things, but we limited that fact with how we identify ourselves and with each other. This is the truth behind "racism" and why, we must free ourselves of this pre-programmed method of making us dumb down to follow anything without question.

If you truly want to change the world, "we" must come together, just like the Global Elite that rule us. We must think ahead like they do and keep our ideas concealed until the time is necessary to reveal them.

Peace and Power to the Human race.

[-] 1 points by truth2012 (43) 12 years ago

Finally, someone who knows what the hell is going on. How come Its so hard to tell family and friends about the criminal oligarchs and their genocidal agenda? Where is a good place to start? Where are there kernals of proof?

[-] 0 points by Rico (3027) 12 years ago

I took a point. It's the net +2 points for the last 5 paragraphs and -3 points for the first 4.

We all do need to wake up, become better informed, and think strategically.

Israel has nothing to do with it.

[-] 1 points by Joeboy32 (72) 12 years ago

Do some research about history and Israel. I am not bashing Israel, it's the fact that, the people who have been behind most of all this conflict and propaganda have shifted power from one place to the next. It's not about Israel or it's religion or culture, it's always about power period.

p.s., you can rank intelligence, but not facts. because facts aren't true or false. it's only how you present them.

[-] 0 points by Rico (3027) 12 years ago

LOL ! What FACTS have you presented ? ZERO

[-] 2 points by Joeboy32 (72) 12 years ago

look around you and put it together. everything going on in the world is orchestrated for a reason. and it's not in your benefit. you think U.S. Presidents are voted in?. they are selected. look at how events get reported in the news. it's made for negative response. you think the economic problems all over the world happen by accident?.

open your eyes and stop waiting for someone to tell you what's what and question why things are the way they are. your lazy minded. i was lazy minded, until i had to begin learning about things for myself and the best way to start is to "question" things first.

having a degree and reading a book doesn't make you intelligent, just turns you into a follower with no real insight.

whatever. say what you want after this, i don't argue about what's obvious.

[-] 1 points by Rico (3027) 12 years ago

LOL ! You have it all figured out do you?

I bet it's a fun tale full of mystery and intrigue that connects a bunch of disparate factoids though the unseen hands of a host of secret players. The existence of the secret players is, of course, self-evident from the obvious fact that they are required in order to connect a bunch of unrelated events.

I think I've read the general story before, I just don't know how you've mapped the roles. Can you provide the list of people playing Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Dionysus, Apollo, Artemis, Hermes, Athena, etc in your version of the story explaining all the things we don't understand as the result of interference and manipulation by hidden beings executing a hidden plan ?

[-] 0 points by nattyraney (15) 12 years ago

great post joe.!!

The goal is to shift power from the usa to israel, just like it went from Britain to the usa in ww2.

an egyptian wrote a good article about the egyptian connection to this here