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Forum Post: US surrounds China in preparation for WWIII

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 10:49 a.m. EST by zorno (386)
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Obama plans to announce a new agreement with Australia for a permanent U.S. Marine military presence there, along with other measures in preparation for a war against China:

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20334

Considering the retaliation from China that this would provoke, it is essential to realize that a war against China would result in a nuclear war against US.

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[-] 3 points by din365 (36) 12 years ago

There's no way the states could ever win a war with china. NEVER! As a matter of fact, in a few brush strokes of a pen, China can destroy the states without firing 1 missile. How? by calling in the debt.

Not to mention, as mentioned before, China does ALOT of business with the states and vice versa, so what reason would the states have to even start a war with china? An economic and military superpower VS an economically crippled, military-stretched former superpower. If Obama is that stupid, then say hello to your chinese overlords.

You Americans have to stop living in this fantasy land that the states is still a military superpower

[-] 2 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

Don't think in terns of the United States, but the global financial oligarchy that controls it. That group of half insane, inbred aristocrats see their financial system dissolving, while the east makes progress, and they see destroying the world as their way to stay on top of it.

This is just what I am reading now, these aren't my ideas.

[-] 0 points by Mooks (1985) 12 years ago

Where do you read these things? What makes you think they are reputable sources?

[-] 2 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

Lyndon Larouche - I know that many people hate him, but he did predict numerous financial crashes, and is considered to have one of the top private intelligence organizations in the world. The most outspoken source currently on this idea.

Alex Jones - more credible to the libertarian types. Has some articles and has done some videos about this idea available on his site.

Webster Tarpley - PhD, a historian and economist, he's frequently the guest on low level political news shows, mentioned this idea on a show recently. Currently reporting in Syria, an area considered to be a potential flash point for such a war.

Benjamin Fulford - past editor of Japanese Fortune magazine. He says his experience in financial reporting eventually led him to an awareness of secret groups that are active conspirators in the world. Recently wrote an article about an elite group of people who want to initiate WW3 and hide out in their bunkers.

[-] 2 points by PermieD (29) 12 years ago

a war against the country that most of our corporations do business in? our overextended military fighting the Chinese? sounds like Chinese capitalism is the favored brand of the elates.

[-] 1 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

I suppose this post would not make much sense, unless you realize that the objective of the top .001 percenters is the depopulation of the planet.

For this reason, any conventional ideas about winning a war do not apply

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

That makes even less sense. You think the top 0.001% want the planet all for themselves?

[-] 2 points by genanmer (822) 12 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

When you have all the wealth in the world and an addiction to acquisition. Entertainment can very easily become warped into sadistic forms of power.

[-] 0 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

To us it wouldn't, but to their warped logic, it is completely sensible.

[-] -1 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

That means they would have to harvest their own food, clean their own floors, install their own toilets, hunt by themselves, etc...

I think you fail to understand the mentally of the 1%. These people like to relax and enjoy life. They do not want to do chores. They need workers for that. They wouldn't be rich if no one else was around.

I think it's time you stop reading conspiracy theories and start reading good books on society and philosophy.

[-] 0 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

They intend to kill off 90% of us and keep the other 10% around to be their slaves.

[-] 0 points by dantes443322 (148) 12 years ago

Sounds like video game I'm playing.

[-] 0 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

your mind is fertile why not grow a life

[-] 2 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

Why don't you look around yourself in this forum sometime and notice that there are people here who can have a conversation without insulting each other. This is how real progress can be made.

But I'm sure you must have some very good justification for your need to insult people you don't even know.

[-] 0 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

some times an insulting word or two, opens the mind more for growth. i am not disrespecting you, I don't know you. I am responding to the words that you wrote. my bad, if i offended you.

[-] -2 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Are you 16? Like I said, don't hurt your brain reading conspiracy theories. It's not healthy. Learn to think and read good books.

[-] 1 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

I think you should take your own advice and try to grow up a bit.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 12 years ago

"Don't think in terns of the United States, but the global financial oligarchy that controls it. That group of half insane, inbred aristocrats see their financial system dissolving, while the east makes progress, and they see destroying the world as their way to stay on top of it." - Correct.

[-] 1 points by nickhowdy (1104) 12 years ago

People really think that they live in a sovereign country and the President actually is the "leader of the free world"...I can't stop laughing...The way our people are programmed is amazing.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 12 years ago

Maybe this will put it into a better perspective.

By the way the US wanting more bases in Australia was dated 21/6/01 SMH

http://www.anti-bases.org/campaigns/NMD_PineGap/Map_of_US_Military_Bases_in_Australia.html

This is not new by any means and certainly not at it's base attributable to the Obama Administration.

Such things as a seismic stations are included and gps stations, so take from it what you will.

[-] 1 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

I think this has to be seen within the context of other troop movements, and military expansion in the middle east along with understanding the intentions behind depopulation.

I know it sounds outrageous, but numerous people are discussing this online now, and sound like they are afraid it will happen. We have seen in the past people saying a financial crisis wasn't about to happen, but it happened.

That doesn't mean this will happen, and I hope it doesn't, but I think it could.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 12 years ago

Anything is possible but not all things are probable.

The AU citizens aren't thrilled with this, although in a humanitarian sense it could be practical.

It would position the US in a place to more easily render aid at the national level in the event of a disaster such as the recent tsunami, although it would still take time to move needed supplies as I would assume there would not be a massive stockpile available.

[-] 0 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

I believe a war on Iran is probable, don't you?

Iran isn't a weak country, it would block seaways where oil is transported, and strike with missiles at various locations and generally foment terrorism. If this spreads, the scenario appears in which things could get out of control.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 12 years ago

At some point perhaps, but trying to predict the future works even worse than predicting the weather.

[-] 0 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

I've heard in the mainstream media that a plan for attacking Iran by Christmas or the New Year is in place. With wars lately, it is starting to seem like the only possibility is that we are going to have more of them.

[-] 0 points by PandoraK (1678) 12 years ago

The old maxim is, Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see comes to mind.

Media, mainstream or not is just that media. They don't have any inside information.

[-] 0 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

I certainly hope that you are right about these things, but I did see Mitt Romney getting all excited about how he would start a war with Iran.

[-] 0 points by SpartacusTheSlave (60) from Las Vegas, NV 12 years ago

China will implode on its own, just like the Soviet Union. Communism is inherently unstable. The Chinese people, as they acquire wealth, are getting tired of being pushed around by their despotic government. Rebellion is in our DNA. Every teenager rebels against his/her parents.

[-] 1 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

I lived in China for a year, and from what I saw, most Chinese people are patriotic, and supportive of their government. Have you ever talked to Chinese people online? This is what I have observed in most of them.

[-] 0 points by dalton (111) 12 years ago

Hey...someone posted conspiracy theories...BAN THEM

[-] 2 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

Aren't you a fine proponent of free speech. But I'm sure you have some very good justifications for it.

[-] 0 points by dalton (111) 12 years ago

its in the rules...that is what i was making fun of :]

[-] 0 points by OLLAG (84) 12 years ago

China wouldn't declare war on us. Imagine the money they have given to us that they would loose.

[-] 1 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

China wouldn't start the war. It would be started by a war between Iran and the US or Israel that would send oil prices souring and spread disruption throughout the middle east and central Asia. Just think how it would effect you if gas went up to $20 a gallon.

This would inevitably overflow into Russia and China, and as the US and Israel keep adding fuel to the fire, these nations would react.

[-] 0 points by OLLAG (84) 12 years ago

Iran wouldn't attack us. We have over 5000 iranian prisoners to keep them in check. As for oil it is already 20$ for gas in europe. Russia is our friend and capitalist so it wouldn't help Iran...and china would never help for said reasons.

[-] 1 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

Ahmajinedad has said that Iran would attack US interests where ever it could.

What I am trying to say is that there are some people in the world who want to provoke WW3, because the Asian nations are progressing while the western financial system is crumbling, and they will keep pushing for war until those nations are destroyed or react with a nuclear war, to reduce the world population. I know it is hard to believe that anybody could be that destructive.

[-] 0 points by stevo (314) 12 years ago

Shouldn't have elected a war crazy, ignorant boy president, who already has escalated the war into 5 countries

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[-] 1 points by zorno (386) 12 years ago

The financial oligarchy, which runs the west resents the development that is occurring in the east, and is intent on destroying the Asian nation, and doesn't care about the destruction of their own populations, so long as they can hide in their bunkers and reclaim the world for themselves once it is all over.