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Forum Post: Union Busting: On Going in Wisconsin

Posted 5 years ago on Feb. 26, 2013, 12:19 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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How many lies will Walker tell for the Kochs?

"When Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) initiated a high-profile effort to bust his state’s public sector unions in 2011, he said that he had no interest in pursuing similar efforts against private sector unions. “Private sector unions are my partner in economic development,” Walker has said. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel noted that he “has consistently downplayed seeking any restrictions on private unions in public statements.”

Snyder said similar things in Michigan, before the flaming duck session when he enacted "right to get fired without recourse" legislation.

So now the Koch whores move on to union busting v2.0.




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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Since neolibe(R)tarians are allowed to dismantle basic worker protections by way of union busting, shouldn't the workers be allowed to dismantle political corporation protections, like lobbies, astroturf and front groups?

[-] 1 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 5 years ago

YES!! And even corp oligarchal structures. Let's "bust" the whole stockholder system & force corps to provide shares of ownership to the workers. That seems fair and reasonable. Definitely an incentive to work hard, and a step towards "democracy at work".

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Geeze, next thing you know you're going to be asking for a pension for 30 years of work. Don't you know the corporation will out live you and needs all the funds it can get to feed itself to WallStreet?

[-] 1 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 5 years ago


God all the pensions raided, and destroyed in the last 30 years is just disgusting, & criminal.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Raid is such a harsh word, they merely appropriated it for higher goals, like paying off WallStreet's need for greed.

Neoplexia is such an expensive disease to "treat"(feed).

[-] 1 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 5 years ago

I had to look that one up.

I learn something everyday on the forrum. HA!

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Yes. Greed is actually a disease and it has a name.

[-] 0 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 5 years ago

Be careful, they may ask to collect SSI disability insurance

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I could live with that, if we can excise their "tumors" and put it to work for the 99%.............................................:)

[-] 0 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 5 years ago

I'm afraid we'll have to cut that 'entitlement' for corp 1% diagnosed "greedy". Gotta pay down the debt y'know. Don't wanna spend our grand childrens money, and they don't wanna be part of the 47% takers anyway.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

How about these dirt bags? http://www.tbglabor.com/services.aspx

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

Just a reminder, and in honor of the occupiers who occupied before Wall st was occupied.


[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Did you laugh when you saw Positive Employee Relation Program? (PERP).

Smile while they reduce your pay and benefits and think of you as a perp.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

I did not.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

I had too.

I've dealt with HR from a union perspective and it was always a painful ordeal for the person I represented.

It was laugh, or cry.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

These people are evil as hell.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Yes they are and you've barely scratched the surface.

Many of these subcontract others for demographic and behavioral research.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Can you pull some up for me so that I can have an idea of what I'm looking at?

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Think Karl Rove tactics.

Distributing the proper propaganda, in the proper bar, to get the desired results.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Got it.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Here's an amateurish page that offers ten examples of studies that are put to marketing use.


Almost every university behavioral study is available for free, fee, or for sale to the highest bidder, so it would be hard to say who uses which ones and for what purpose, but they do use them.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Ok, ya. While not familiar with the studies, I am familiar with it's use within marketing

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Any sign of these dirt bags around? http://www.american-consulting.com/

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

You know they're "right" there.

Consulting firm, eh?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Yep. Union busting in Seattle is rather recent.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

That's just one firm. They will hire others to do other forms of dirty work, all the while the corporation will play an innocent bystander, while their other hand is paying ALEC to pass more draconian laws. Kind of like those smiling faces at NMS.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Yep and we should just let ideas stand on their own.
Like this one right here http://www.oliverbell.com/Union_Campaign.html

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Latino Labor Persuaders?? "A partner organization". What if they're Latinas?

Affordable bundles to screw your workforce!!


Anything, but paying them what they're worth.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Well, technically Latino then becomes plural.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

OK. Bad joke showing my lack of Spanish skills.

Still, Latino labor persuaders?

Jackbooted thugs?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Pretty much but if you click on the bios of the leaders then the picture becomes a bit clearer.

sorry, here http://www.oliverbell.com/Executive_Profiles.html

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

LLP is currently unavailable.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Oliver Bell, Founder & CEO Oliver Bell believes in leadership. He (1) values direct relationships between employees and supervision, (2) helps clients align employee and management goals for the greater good, and (3) thrives on the dynamics of change in business. He has worked for non-union and unionized clients with operations in North, Central & South America, the Caribbean and Europe to help maintain positive, productive relationships with their employees. Mr. Bell has been involved in over 1,500 successful client scenarios.

Mr. Bell’s hi-energy work style focuses on consultation, consensus building and timely issue resolution while facilitating client efforts to sustain productive work environments via positive employee relations. He advises senior leaders on strategic communications and identifies proactive solutions to workplace and community issues designed to have a positive impact on employees, customers, shareholders, the community and the bottom line.

In 2011, Bell founded the Texas Labor & Employee Relations Consortium (TLERC) which hosts periodic meetings for senior leadership in operations, labor relations and human resources to discuss key labor and employment issues. He regularly speaks on leadership, labor & employment, entrepreneurship, and diversity issues. He also writes a newsletter and blog, “One-On-One with Oliver Bell.”. In 2011, Mr. Bell was one of only 60 nationally recognized labor relations professionals including attorneys, union officials, and trade association heads selected to provide testimony before an historic National Labor Relations Board public hearing on pending changes in labor law and procedures.

The Governor of Texas appointed Mr. Bell to serve as the Chairman of the Texas Board of Criminal Justice (TBCJ). The TBCJ is responsible for oversight of the $3.1 billion a year, 40,000-employee Texas Department of Criminal Justice. The TBCJ also serves as the Board of the Trustees for the Windham School District, the largest geographic district in Texas, supporting the state criminal justice system. As Chairman, Mr. Bell also serves as a healthcare administrator overseeing a seven hospital healthcare system, 100+ onsite infirmary locations, and numerous vendor relationships. He oversees a vertically integrated operation that includes security services, logistics, food service, manufacturing, agriculture, vocational services, law enforcement, and legal services. Mr. Bell joined the board as a member in 2004. He sits on six subcommittees including Healthcare (which he chairs), Human Resources, Business & Finance and Internal Audit.

Mr. Bell participates in several community and business activities. In 2010, Mr. Bell was named a “Kentucky Colonel” by the Governor of Kentucky. He is a TLERC fellow and adjunct faculty member of Long Gray Line Leadership, LLC. Bell is a member of the West Point Society of Houston, the National Black Chamber of Commerce, the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment Association, the Association of the United States Army, and the US Army Historical Society. He has served on the Board of Directors of the Greater Austin Chamber of Commerce and is former President and Board Member of the West Point Society of Central Texas. He is also a past member of the Sigma Pi Phi Fraternity (The Boulé) and the Knights of Peter Claver.

Bell is a former Army officer and graduate of the US Military Academy at West Point. After completing “Airborne” & “Ranger” training, he was assigned to a “cold war” mission in Germany to patrol the then East-West German “Inter-Zonal Border.” Follow on assignments included command of a border mission Armored Cavalry Troop, command of a rapid deployment Tank Company, and a tour as the Officer-In-Charge and co-developer of the US Army Scout Platoon Leader’s Course. Mr. Bell was selected to attend graduate school and return to West Point to teach, but he declined to pursue a non-military career.

After leaving active military service, Mr. Bell joined Mobil Oil’s Human Resources Group. He later left Mobil to pursue a career in labor relations consulting. Over the next several years, Mr. Bell rose to Vice President of a large labor relations consulting firm. He subsequently left that firm to form his company and has since consulted for numerous organizations in a variety of industries. Mr. Bell resides in Houston, Texas with his wife and children.

Annette Raggette, Vice President, Oliver Bell, Inc. & Managing Partner, Leader Learning Group

Ms. Raggette is Vice President of Oliver Bell, Inc and one of the founders and managing partners of Leader Learning Group, Inc. (“LLG”). Ms. Raggette is a management consultant specializing in labor relations, conflict resolution, and organizational effectiveness. She is a trained mediator and is certified in Managing Workplace Conflict. While she has experience in a wide range of industries, she has significant expertise in healthcare and led the Healthcare Practice Group of a leading labor relations consulting firm. Ms. Raggette began her career in the public/nonprofit sector working in such positions as Director of Community Development and Federal Programs and as a legislative aid to a member of the U.S. Congress. 

Ms. Raggette received a Master’s degree in Public Policy from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, and continues to guide senior leaders in areas of conflict resolution and organizational effectiveness. For more than15 years Ms. Raggette has assisted organizations with their labor relations challenges and to become better stewards of their human capital. This includes serving as Vice President of Human Resources for a $2.2B entertainment company.

Her commitment to community and public service includes a tour of service in the U.S. Peace Corps and serving on the Harvard Journal of African American Public Policy Editorial Board, the Harvard Club of Austin Schools and Scholarship Committee, Easter Seals Regional Board of Directors, Workforce Investment Board, Iberia Habitat for Humanity Board of Directors, and Scott and White Healthcare Advisory Board. In 2003, Texas Governor Rick Perry appointed Ms. Raggette to the Texas Medical Board. In 2009, The Texas Supreme Court appointed her to the State Bar of Texas Board of Directors. Ms. Raggette, who teaches Sunday school at her local church

Kristin Anderson, Vice President, Oliver Bell, Inc. & Managing Partner, Leader Learning Group

Ms. Anderson is Vice President of Oliver Bell, Inc. and a Managing Partner for Leader Learning Group, Inc. (“LLG”), the training subsidiary of Oliver Bell, Inc. Together with her partners, Ms. Anderson founded LLG to respond to an increasing demand for high-tech solutions to helping organizations cultivate a long-term, self-sufficient plans for protecting an organizations union-free status. Ms. Anderson is an energetic and engaging instructor who has written numerous management training programs and personally trained thousands of supervisors on best practices for how to manage others and develop meaningful relationships in the workplace.

Ms. Anderson began her formal career in labor relations in 1998 after joining her family’s business, PTI Labor Research, Inc. Mentored by her father, nationally-renowned labor relations expert, F. Stuart Keene, Ms. Anderson learned the business of keeping companies union-free the best possible way – on the front line of hundreds of union campaigns. In 2001, Ms. Anderson joined her father in founding The Keene Group, a labor relations consulting firm offering services in union avoidance and union prevention preparedness through the development of front line supervisors. Ms. Anderson’s consulting experience includes conducting, on behalf of management, extensive research and strategy development for hundreds of union campaigns across the United States. In 2006, before founding LLG, Ms. Anderson joined the Texas Division (Randalls/Tom Thumb) of the Fortune 500 grocery retailer, Safeway, Inc. Her responsibilities and accomplishments included advising senior management on all aspects of employee relations including developing high-level strategy for union avoidance and Employee Free Choice Act response strategy.

Ms. Anderson is a graduate of The University of Texas at Austin where she earned a Bachelor of Arts in History and Certificate in Business Administration. Ms. Anderson’s charitable endeavors include an appointment as the Vice-Chairman of the Advisory Council for The Salvation Army Boys and Girls Clubs of Metropolitan Houston where she also sits on the Children’s Education Committee. Her passion is helping children realize the dream of a higher education. Ms. Anderson lives in Houston, Texas with her husband and two children.

Stacee Pierson Senior Vice President, Administration

Does not have a biography.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Oh gosh, I got that part. I was looking for information on the "persuaders", that's the broken link.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago


I just ran a search and the hits were a couple years old then hit a new rule.

It looks like they hired a bunch of persuaders to hit the gov. regulation site.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Such shiny managerial descriptions, for an incredibly slimy endeavour.

Racial profiling as an anti-union device.

Texas, wasn't it?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

http://www.latinolaborpersuaders.com/contact.php LATINO LABOR PERSUADERS USES ITS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE AND BILINGUAL CAPABILITIES TO: Educate clients about Hispanic and other minority groups’ cultures and issues Help clients understand the value and benefits that Hispanic and minority workforces offer Teach clients about the law in immigrants’ home countries, along with current U.S. employment, labor and immigration law Proactively consult with clients to identify problems with their workforces before they arise Establish best practices Prepare written and DVD/CD materials to enhance employee relations and communications, in compliance with the Landrum-Griffin Act Dissipate union organization while engaging employee support Recommend long-term strategic action to give your business a competitive edge and improve your bottom line Work well alongside your company’s attorney(s) Let Latino Labor Persuaders help evolve your company internally, to ensure that your business survives externally.

We offer business consulting for all types of workforces, including minority workforces, such as:

Hispanic African-American Arabic Burmese Hmong

Ok, so a consulting firm is contacted who partners with a persuader group. Then there is the PR firms. Are there any other groups that I am looking for?

[-] -1 points by highlander (-163) 5 years ago

Call it an experiment; on a small scale; certainly can't throw money at the unions forever.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

It's an experiment that's already failed the middle class, or didn't you notice?

[-] -1 points by highlander (-163) 5 years ago

I must say I haven't. I am a middle class American who has somehow succeeded without belonging to a union. I guess I have my paid right wing sponsors to thank for that.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Oh, maybe they will stay local? http://www.harmoniouslabor.com/

My bad, the above link is Michigan.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Some of them sound like a box of lawyers.


[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33633) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

People - breaking down the rights and protections of the workers by corpoRATs - is exactly why you need to SUPPORT: