Forum Post: "Understanding Economics : A Perfect Grasp and for Free !", by Fred Reed.
Posted 12 years ago on Aug. 16, 2012, 8:16 p.m. EST by shadz66
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"Understanding Economics : A Perfect Grasp, and for Free !"
by Fred Reed.
Today I'm going to explain economics, society, and the pursuit of happiness, if any. Either pursuit or happiness. When I'm through, there won't be any questions left. You will know everything. Whole university departments will shutter their doors. And good riddance.
A friend of mine is ardent of capitalism, also called “free enterprise” if you are trying to sell it to the rubes, or “codified robbery” by those familiar with its workings. Anyway, this friend had an actual degree in economic theory. He said things like “commoditized debenture yields” and “mezzanine tranche bundles” and “annualized perturbity swaps.” I was so impressed I almost gave him my wallet right there.
I've got nothing against speaking in tongues, but some of it was too many for me. For example, he kept saying that businesses didn't want the government to interfere with them, which he called “distorting the market.” Well, I can understand it. I don't want the government interfering with me either, especially in the midst of a burglary. But I was puzzled. If businessmen didn't want the government interfering in the market, I asked, why did they send thousands of lobbyists to Washington to make the government interfere in the market? He changed the subject. I guess he was distracted.
Of course, as Milton Friedman said, “There's no such thing as a free market.” (That may not be exactly what he said. It's what he would have said had he understood economics better.) I think Milton was right. I mean, as soon as capitalists start making money, they buy the government, and engage in carnal intercourse with it, and pretty soon the chiefs of corporations are in government, and great motingator alpha-crats of government get on corporate boards, and form the roaring mother of interlocking directorates, and so you get Enron and the sub-primes and nobody's got a house. The freer the market, the quicker it happens. A lack of laws favors the smart, the avaricious, and the remorseless. (I live in Mexico.)
Ronald Reagan, an amiable goof but not the Killer Kowalski of intellect, said of the free market (I think it was he) that “a rising tide floats all boats.” Thing is, I keep reading that the rich are getting lots richer, and the middle class, what is left of it, is getting poorer. I guess they don't have boats. Maybe we need a federal program. Maybe No Boat Left Behind.
It's confusing. Conservatives say that it's wrong to take money from those who produce and give it to those who don't. Then they take money from those who produce and give it, great bags of it, to the military, which never earned a nickel and produces nothing but corpses and amputees. It looks to me like a choice between welfare queens, colonels or indigent mothers. I prefer the kind that wants free cheeseburgers, but that's just me I guess.
Which brings us, panting, to Obamacare. It probably won't work, because the government can't do anything right, and the private sector will steal the government blind. Anyway, conservatives don't like the idea of national health care. They pass around the internet stories about some woman in Canada who had to give herself a C-section with a chain saw because there weren't any doctors.
Well, maybe. Or maybe when you underfund national health care, probably because of bribes from the chainsaw manufacturers, you get too few doctors. Anyhow, when they start in on how awful national health care is, I always want to say, “Yes, no doubt. My faith in you is without limit. But, just out of curiosity you understand, can you name two hospitals in France? Give me any three facts about health care in Japan? A brief comparison of medicine in Denmark and Finland? In short, do you have the slightest idea of what you are talking about?”
But I don’t ask. It would be like poisoning goldfish.
Now, America has two examples of socialized medical care, the VA system and the military system. Since it would be intelligent to examine these to see how well they work, nobody does. The VA hospitals ain't great, being over-affirmative-actioned and under-funded, since the Pentagon has more enthusiasm for making new cripples than caring for old ones.
The military system is another thing. The first question you are asked in a military hospital is, “What is wrong with you?” instead of “How are you going to pay for this?” Because the doctors are on salary, they don't gouge. Nor do they refuse to treat you because of the mounds of stupid federal paperwork required for things like Medicare. Nor in the military system do insurance companies hunt, like starving ferrets on the trail of a mouse, for reasons not to pay. While insurance companies won't pay claims if they can help it, they will assuredly pay Congress not to ask awkward questions, so no comparisons with the military hospitals will be made.
The military system works, God help us. You show your ID card, they fix you. You need something expensive? You get it. You don’t need a pricey scan to pay for the new seventy-five-button, six-hundred brake horsepower MRI machine? You don’t get it. When I last covered the military, which is an already-functioning, easily studied system that works under American cultural conditions, it was competitive cost-wise with the private sector. Let us avert our eyes.
Next, why do the cognitively challenged say that Obama is a socialist? The man is an arch-conservative. (I'm not sure what arches have to do with it, but never mind.) He bailed out Wall Street, the beating heart of predatory capitalism, and then carefully didn’t prosecute those who masterminded the sub-prime scan. Socialists hate Wall Street. Obama breast-feeds it. And he sends the military to bomb every country he has heard of, which is very conservative. He is ideally qualified to be president of Guatemala.
Whew. Now a final gem of crystalline truth before I turn to things of greater cosmic import, such as listening to Bob Dylan with Vi. Conservatives and capitalists (What’s the difference? All conservatives are capitalists, and all capitalists are conservatives) say they like competition. Bracing stuff, it is, not like lazy old socialism.
Actually they like competition as long as they are winning, and and when they aren't they want the government to buy their stuff. Why do you think America has such a rocking arms industry? Easy: Because the arms companies can’t make it in a truly competitive world. For example, Lockheed gave up the manufacture of civilian airliners to be a martial kept woman of the Pentagon. Arms manufacturers don’t have to compete with Samsung and Daewoo, which would probably make Pentagonal toys for a third the price. Don’t think so? Make the experiment.
Yes, yes, I know. This tirade is for naught. The arms makers will continue giving oral satisfaction to the withering udder of the Great Federal Cow with the ardor of a lonely sheep herder. Bohica. (That was an ageist, two-animal bovine-antaomical metaphor with sexual reference. Patent applied for.) But I subscribe to the principle that a leper is happiest when he understands why his fingers are falling off.
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e tenebris, lux ...
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Fred's Biography - As He Tells It - Fred, a keyboard mercenary with a disorganized past, has worked on staff for Army Times, The Washingtonian, Soldier of Fortune, Federal Computer Week, and The Washington Times. His website - http://www.fredoneverything.net/ .
[Article copied verbatim under "Fair Use" from : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32205.htm ]
"For example, he kept saying that businesses didn't want the government to interfere with them, which he called “distorting the market.” Well, I can understand it. I don't want the government interfering with me either, especially in the midst of a burglary. But I was puzzled. If businessmen didn't want the government interfering in the market, I asked, why did they send thousands of lobbyists to Washington to make the government interfere in the market? He changed the subject. I guess he was distracted."
Terribly funny, and terribly true!
Sometimes satire can say so much more than dry prose. I too laughed but with a weary smile at much of Fred Reed's article. Thanx for your comment & highlight.
Onwards and Upwards ; Together we are Stronger !!
per aspera ad astra ...
I think this guy hits it pretty good in the first few, but when he says government can't do anything right I felt like it was such a slap in the face of the post office that I quit reading.
I do think the guy sees a few things worth talking about, I wish it were less rant and more truth though.
I recently saw the VA health care up close, and I believe they are great professionals.
I hear you 'frf' BUT it was meant to be a satirical piece ;-)
pax, amor et lux ...
errr OK, But he mixes in straight up truth :
Of course, as Milton Friedman said, “There's no such thing as a free market.” (That may not be exactly what he said. It's what he would have said had he understood economics better.)
with things cons say:
It probably won't work, because the government can't do anything right, and the private sector will steal the government blind.
but I'll take your word for it on balance I'd rather like it anyway, if you care to look for my "response" not written yet, thinking "Family report card"
"Love of Country : Seldom Requited", by Fred Reed :
This wee, short article also by Fred Reed, may be a little more to your taste, 'frf'.
fiat justitia ruat caelum ...
So this guy made his bones in war and in the police department and practiced his art at The American Conservative:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Conservative
From reading his piece he should of kept practicing, I realized his been published and all. But I honestly believe we're lucky he's not better at what he does. Truth be told there is so many think tank tidbits in his stuff I have a tough time getting through it.
Good link ; good point ; well made & I get you now re. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Reed but I'll just end by saying that one can just about contemplate engaging with 'Principled Conservatives', eg. I like 'Pat Buchanan' on the matter of US Foreign Policy and Illegal wars.
pax et lux ...
OK I'll go and look, but if I catch something I'm going to blame you....
In which case one of the two of us or both or neither, will be ...
"Alison Krauss Rules" !!!
fiat lux ...
here's a wee piece back
http://occupywallst.org/forum/family-report-card-a-work-of-fiction/
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I looked at your link. It was portentous and allegorical - but with regard to what, I know NOT, lol !!!
ad iudicium ...
the really scary thing is, I'm really quite modest....
Nothing wrong with blowing your own trumpet - occasionally, so long as it is tuneful & it need not just be Miles Davis or Dizzy Gillespie doing the 'blowing' either ...
pax, amor et lux ...
Basically the entire system is one big hpycritical joke. But the biggest joke is that people ahve not caught onto it yet.
Years of Mind Management ; "Manufacturing of Consent" ; Cradle to Grave MSM Propaganda and an education system designed to stifle thought and merely churn out 'worker units' have contributed to this malaise. It may take a generation to rectify but maybe less, now that the workers have no work !
Having faith and hope in each other is all that we have left but that can me more than enough IF we realise and embrace our interdependence and start to ... Educate ; Agitate ; Organise !!
One step at a time bro' & ... http://s17nyc.org/ ~*~
dum spiro, spero ...
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I'll be your 'book out' ! "Where's the heist ?!! RNC HQ ?!!!" by Hugo Furst ...
It'll be like "Getting Rich Quick" by Robin Banx !!!
gigglus maximus ...
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Re "Robin Banx", please consider Prof. Wm. K. Black, author of "The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One" :
Re. the excellent and inestimable Professor William K. Black :
radix omnium malorum est cupiditas ...
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What I find more interesting is that the military can manage healthcare for millions where government will obviously fail; likewise the defense industries, guided by military input, can produce fantastically advanced tech products which are marketed worldwide whereas government is so inept it can't even produce a product made of paper.
A Permanent WAR Economy is perhaps the answer to your quandary sadly, sigh ..~*~..
It is 'interesting' that you find "more interesting" that which is actually shameful but your clear admiration that "the defense industries, guided by military input, (that) can produce fantastically advanced tech products which are marketed worldwide" ... speaks volumes really.
If you hate The US Government then chances are you're disdainful of 'US Democracy' (such as it it is!) which could come from the right OR the left. However, your penchant for The Military indicates to me that your coming from The Right, so the following link will probably wind you up :
"While local governments cut teachers, firefighters, senior centers, and other essential services, military contractors are laughing all the way to the bank. On Jan. 17, 2011, media attention was given to the 50th anniversary of former President and General Dwight D. Eisenhower’s warning that 'we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.' Today Congress is part of that complex, with money and staff flowing back and forth between Congressional offices and corporations."
fiat lux ; fiat pax ; fiat justitia ruat caelum ...
"War is the health of the state," the radical writer Randolph Bourne said, in the midst of the First World War. Indeed, as the nations of Europe went to war in 1914, the governments flourished, patriotism bloomed, class struggle was stilled, and young men died in frightful numbers on the battlefields-often for a hundred yards of land, a line of trenches.
In the United States, not yet in the war, there was worry about the health of the state. Socialism was growing. The IWW seemed to be everywhere. Class conflict was intense. In the summer of 1916, during a Preparedness Day parade in San Francisco, a bomb exploded, killing nine people; two local radicals, Tom Mooney and Warren Billings, were arrested and would spend twenty years in prison. Shortly after that Senator James Wadsworth of New York suggested compulsory military training for all males to avert the danger that "these people of ours shall be divided into classes." Rather: "We must let our young men know that they owe some responsibility to this country."
The supreme fulfillment of that responsibility was taking place in Europe. Ten million were to die on the battlefield; 20 million were to die of hunger and disease related to the war. And no one since that day has been able to show that the war brought any gain for humanity that would be worth one human life. The rhetoric of the socialists, that it was an "imperialist war," now seems moderate and hardly arguable. The advanced capitalist countries of Europe were fighting over boundaries, colonies, spheres of influence; they were competing for Alsace-Lorraine, the Balkans, Africa, the Middle East.
Thanx sincerely for this excellent, salutary and very necessary comment above, which brought a much needed sense of seriousness on this light weight & satirical forum-post !
You "flipped it for real yo" ! I'm Absolutely Loving Your Style, Big Time !!
fiat pax ; nunc et semper ; hic et ubique et cave, bellum se ipsum alet !!!
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Hey ... it's supposed to be a satirical 'laugh in the face of oblivion' kinda thread !!!
Please "Enlightenup" up dude !!
Where's your "Zen" 'Dog' ?!
fiat pax ; fiat lux ; fiat justitia ruat caelum ...
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T Shirts 4 Jaw-Jaw ?!!!
Just say 'NO !' to wAr-wAr !!
pax et lux ...
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Please try not to reference RepubliCunts on this thread ; I'm trying to keep things Light around here tonight 'ZenDude !!!
multum in parvo ...
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Don't worry I am talking softly but am carrying a Big Stick on this thread :-)
ad iudicium ...
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Their science and tech is incredible, yes. Their exports are highly profit and their industry provides tens of thousands (millions?) of jobs. I definitely support the defense industries; I think you'd have to be living in a fog not to. No offense, it appears that far too many are.
I do have a very strong disdain of current government; in fact, if anything these words are far too weak. I also hate democracy... for me it is Constitutional Republicanism, albeit somewhat modified because certainly the present model is flawed, or nothing.
Maybe a military dictatorship is more to your tastes.
No, a benevolent dictatorship would be more to my tastes. He's the guy that's always on the side of good, with the power to strike the bad, who moves us forward in the best interests of all.
Some always need leaders. That may account for Milton's famous line: "Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven."
Lux like it, right ?! Know a crypto-fascist by his words et ses bon mots, n'est ce pas ?
fiat pax ...
I took a small sabbatical from here. I see things haven't changed.... more drama as well ... DKtoday?
It was DKAtyesterday ; DKAtoday & it'll be DKAtomorrow !!! Temporary micro-dramas 'geo' m8 !! It'll pass & he'll be ok, we all can have a wobble on occasion & shit happens !
Your moniker 'geo' is like bw's in that it is broad based and referential and reverential of This Space Ship, "The Good Earth" ; our beautiful but fragile shared and only home !!
I dig it ~*~
pax ...
Thank you.
'Militarism' ; 'Fascism' & 'Arms Dealing'' ain't good dude !!! D'you give a shit about your planet, this beautiful world & its inhabitants ?!! D'you even get my drift ?!
temet nosce ...
I do actually... but one cannot negotiate from a position of weakness. And it's very important that we remain influential in our world. But there's more - the entire world is at war right now - everywhere people are killing each other, trying to wrestle power. We don't know where this is going but we know wherever it is, it won't be good.
Alien Invasion Alert !!! Randian Romulans In The House !! + Re. "our world" - who's world ?!
Let go of your 0.01%er 'Ryan/R-money' induced & evoked - deeep, daark fearrs - embrace & manifest <3 of your fellow man or line up with The Randian, Ryan/R-money, Romulan, RepubliCon, Retrogressive, Retrograde, Rightwing, Reductive, Repressive Reptlians !!!
ERRRrrrrrr ... did I miss anything out there ?!!
"Fear leads to anger ; leads to hate ; leads to suffering." ; "Much fear in you I feel" & "Stay away from the darkside" Puke !
nosce te ipsum ...
ps: WTF kinda "funkytown" r u from maan ?!!! Bet they don't play The Reverend Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Michael Franti, George Clinton OR Bootsy Collins in your town !! NOT coming to your disco dinner dance invite ... EVER - cos u don't know 'sweet f.a.' about funky !!!
verum ex absurdo ...
I absolutely love Michael Franti! I've seen Al Green live and, Superfly? You've got to be kidding; that ain't right. My musical tastes are like, incredibly broad - there ain't no genre anywhere - anywhere - that's safe from my ears.
And, yea, I like the old time funk, too, but the screen name means nothing; it's just a temporary persona... tomorrow I could just as easily be PerdroPeso selling sombreros in Santilly; I suspect you're trying to "age" me and that's cool, the intuitive I understand. But... whoever and whatever, you'll know who I am by the spam, and that's enuf for me.
Me ? I voted you up & hv dn b4 ! With your musical tastes, how'd'you get so REACTIONARY ?!!! LOL !!
An "R" that I left out & 'peace out' Sir Spamalot !
pax et lux ...
haha... well, you know what they say, free your mind and your ass will follow... (funkadelic?) And that's exactly what I did.
Here's another twinkle* that I'm sprinkling on you ! +
NOW you wanna try to tell me That THAT ain't 'funky' in anyone's 'town' ! Check out the drums & base !!
NOW re your rather sad penchant for 'All Things Military' --- I double dare you to meditate on the true and deep meaning of the lovely lyrics for a few minutes, before you attempt any overly hasty reply !!!
fiat pax ...
That's jazz, dude... geez. This is funk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QglEbgON9o ...
And that's way I like it, at times. It's the pop-twang in-be-tweens that get the funkfreak... but truthfully almost all are cross genre -ed, I hear jazz, r&b, motown, disco, even rock and roll.
I like it all - everything from hip hop to progressive... opera, broadway, classical, bigband... bluegrass, western, southern rock, country rock, country blues... blues... English ballads... everything, the 20s through the Now... language is really not a barrier, either - my ears have wings.
We just want the funk and that's the way it is...
The military and defense industries are the poor man's world; most of our culture, especially today, is so far removed from that, for most it's not even a momentary consideration... but as any science or tech student knows, and as many of skilled labor know, there are definite positive aspects to both military life and the defense industries; it's a very inclusive society which involves thousands of separate job titles, various levels of tech and experience, and they're very real people. I think some things ya gotta live to understand... not everybody in America can be fortunate enough to be born in the ivory tower and wealth, by our very nature, will never be a thing of equality.
Well thanx for nearly agreeing that Curtis Mayfield's "We Got To Have Peace" is a top tune, with great lyrics - by repeating my link back to me ~{:-)
IF "we want the funk", then : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2ZxBubWvWk&feature=fvsr , is a start !
IF it's "bluegrass" that floats your boat, then : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTOB-JW9sM4 !!
IF "Classical / English ballads" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUASDWrBdc !!!
You have eclectic musical tastes yet you seem to espouse a 'Mild Mannered Militarism' which is a touch disconcerting to say the least. My instinct is that you have a beating, feeling and empathic human heart so we'll see how we get on as there may be more that unites us than divides us re :
IF indeed your "ears have wings", then perhaps your heart can too ~*~
dum spiro, spero ...
I can expand on this... I see the military and defense industries as a very large economic entity that employs millions of all educational levels. The fact that it creates a product with the potential of harm, for me, is an aside. There are other similar industries, take Philip Morris, for example, that produce a product with a potential of harm... and who buys the stock in Philip Morris? Well, the non-smokers, of course. The same is true of the military, we all buy the stock, whether we smoke or not. This same convoluted philosophy can and is applied to many industries and many products.
The intent of war is not to kill or maim but to persuade; it is the supreme desire of America's military to never be utilized but rather to serve as the stopgap, the position of power, capable of complete and utter annihilation, as the deterrent. Consider that we have been relatively prosperous yet secure in a world of murders, rapists, perverts, and thieves and we must conclude that this philosophy of illusion has served well.
Yea, I'm not liking that pie chart. Kick it back, and let me know when you got something better.
Disappointing to say the least !!! Right Wing Militarism, Imperialism & US Exceptionalism is NOT my bag !! Neither is 'Paranoid Nationalism' !
I draw a clear line at this juncture & we're clearly NOT on the same side of it so I certainly do not intend to keep ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiLGI7rIEcY&feature=fvwrel - with you, as you propound your "philosophy of illusion".
ad iudicium ...
Have you ever had an original thought in your head? Or are you going to go through life letting others think for you... at this point, it appears, they're actually putting words in your mouth.
seems many celebrity twitter accounts are like that
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I'll raise a cup to that, to the wonder of it all... nettle me this, do you plan to win the war alone?
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This ain't a love-in, everybody sees profit in their demise.
Naah maan ! It's Cheech & Chong, all day long !! & The World (beautiful or otherwise) is going to POT !!!
too 'hmmmmy' for latin ...
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Fiat Lux ! In vino veritas et in fumo funnitas !! Verum ex absurdo !!!
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Fiat Pax is The Feat, for ... ..
Fiat Justitia is Most Sweet !!!
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EXACTLY RIGHT !!!
nunc et semper !!
pax = justitia !
fiat lux ...
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"Without Justice ; Power 'eats' Peace", eh ?!
I 'originally' thought that you were kosher ! How about that ?!! Is that "original" enuf 4 U ?!!!
"Kool 'n' The Gang" ... funky enuf fr u ?
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Well, that's interesting because I has suspected that you might be also. :)
I was only speaking figuratively, metaphorically & colloquially but suspect that your may be thinking far more narrowly !!!
ad iudicium ...
something about recognition
LOL !!! Mazel Tov, L'chaim !!
shalom ; salaam ; pax ; shaanti ommmmm ~*~
I was definitely thinking more narrowly, yes I was.
But you still got a twinkle* !!!
fiat pax ; hic et ubique ...
Ok, ok, thank you very much.
Thats because they have unlimited funds. Duh.
Give me an ass load of blank checks and Ill come up with some pretty cool shit too.
You understand how these contracts work right?