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Forum Post: Twitter is for Nitwit Twits

Posted 9 months ago on Oct. 9, 2013, 8:14 a.m. EST by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT
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I've burned through my third twitter id this morning. It seems rather unfortunate, but it is obvious twitter is not a platform designed for the user, it is designed specifically for data harvesters and no one else.

If you communicate too often with other twitter users you get banned. That has been my experience. No profanity required.

Fuck twitter. It's for twits. It only becomes really useful when passing anonymous messages, and even then it has limits. IF one can organize an extremely large block of individuals to tweet the same thing at the same time it may, I think it will, produce results, shaking the beliefs of those tracking the trends for the purpose of massaging public opinion.

But it does not appear that a campaign of slow and steady increase in volume will work because of the number of bots that get rolled out to counter or to distract from the message.

Fuck twitter. Since it doesn't make an effective communication platform within the medium, it is doomed to fail as a marketing tool, and therefore the initial public offering of the stock is probably valuing the stock at it's maximum price, period, in an absence of sweeping overhaul of the media.

I already have my revenge.

Conservatives on the other hand, are another matter . . .



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[-] 1 points by gsw (2867) 9 months ago


Any good apps you've heard of, anyone?

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

wait - I've forgotten already. All I can think of is elmer fudd and gunshotWesidue . . . who are you again?

Look, it doesn't matter. What does matter is that the fukers may actually take us over the edge and into default. Twitter as a means of organizing any opposition is useless. It may prove useful in the event something is organized.

Certainly someone has got to do something - can we focus?

For example: If we can examine, quickly, how companies and corporations are and have been able to exploit chapter 11 to their own advantage, and if such a plan can be detailed and presented to the President, and IF such a plan can be packaged in an appropriate manner, it can be presented to the GOP and their minions to produce any one of several things:

  1. we might enlist the banking / investing sector to oppose defaullt by suggesting that any gains made via fossil fuels will be entirely eliminated by U.S.gov debt restructuring

  2. We might fracture the gop into a million pieces just with the suggestion since they are under tremendous pressure already

  3. if they actually take us into default we might impose a completely new economic theory and structure by virtue of the fact that the current structure has failed.

  4. we can bring punishment onto the banking sector with actual debt restructuring

The whole point I am attempting to make is that something has got to be done. If people are not prepared to take conservatives hostage and slaughter them at the very next suggestion of default, then we have got to move toward the next most effective solution. That has got to be a demonstration of some kind of real and significant threat to the party itself, if it is not going to be aimed at policy makers and those who fund them.

Someone, somehow, has got to stop these fools. Don't you see?

[-] 1 points by gsw (2867) 9 months ago

I am an anonymous member of 99 percent, father of 3, married 25 years, and one who has felt the economic stagnation of last 30 years, the economic decline of middle class, evaporation of American dream for many in last 11 years, since 9/11, and even before with corrupt-selection of good old boy, w bush, where media have ignored there civic duty, one of a mass of sheeple, who feels like a piece of spit in the wind, waiting for the next collapse of economy, probably when next republic pres is selected.

[-] 1 points by gsw (2867) 9 months ago

I feel this pain due to economic loss of purchasing power, and sinking of all boats around, deflating of economy, that money has been slurped up by .1 percent, and apparently most everyone thinks it is all good in the land of the dream.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

It is ok to ignore me. Sometimes I'm just obnoxious with no good reason. It happens. I think it's habit. I've been surrounded by way too many sock puppets

that's what it is

so does the FCC accept inquiries from the public? The clowns investing in federal government default swaps must be engaged in criminal behavior of some kind.

[-] 1 points by gsw (2867) 9 months ago

Insider trading.

Bet against the home team. How can they bet against USA government. More treason imo

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

It has got to be more than insider trading. It shows these fukers that default can be profitable, and that implies that as long as everyone is still making money the campaign contributions will continue.

As long as the news articles continue to contain the right kind of rhetoric, our allies remain with us, and we can push the U.S. government over the edge.

What really bothers me is that the Judicial system seems to lack what it requires to act decisively - we've seen that illustrated with the 2008 collapse. They seem to require an act of vigilantism of such egregious proportion that conservatives themselves are able to acknowledge that stepping in is in their own interest, before they are confronted with a wave of public outrage that becomes uncontrollable.

I am tempted, I confess.

[-] 1 points by gsw (2867) 9 months ago


Are the dem politicians calling them out, haven't heard much exept Harry Reed, majority Leader in Senate on c span calling them reckless, and a few others.

I guess the Main stream Media must enjoy the shutdown horse race, and ignore the causes and possible consequences.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago


Comfortably numb, deliberately dumb...

You know how we "call them out"? WE Vote so they don't get in!

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

Sen. Sanders called out the Koch brothers. That's about it that I have heard.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago

Hashtag deposeboehner

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

it has got to be more than just him. there are external sources of influence maintaining gop discipline. One would expect that out of over 200 repelican legislators we could find 20 that would fund the government if boner brought the measure to the floor. But he isn't getting pressure from anyone in the gop from the Senate that I've heard of, and in fact the hot mic thing with Paul / McConnell illustrates clearly that there is - at least between these two senators from coal country, one TP and the other old school, general agreement in strategy.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago

First, don't feel bad about being censored: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/house-gop-silences-alan-grayson-after-he-c

Second, of course there are outside forces influencing the GOP, their Gods, the 1%. But there are different selfish concerns among 1%ers. There is the Grover Norquist pledge to shrink government so you can drown it in the bathtub. Kochs love that so they can drill baby drill in Yellowstone. Then there are the Wall Street Banksters who want a stable market so they don't lose any investments or profits. That it's all reckless and harmful just shows how unbridled greed, like any abusive addiction, leads to bad decisions.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

It's really funny how it seems to be working - I left this in another comment:

And now I can't recall if it was from another link or comments on tv, but generally the talking heads regarding all things money are urging everything from caution to the markets regained after 2008 -

CBS did have comments from one of the big credit card CEOs urging Congress to resolve this because of catastrophe - but his comments made it clear, although this wasn't his intent - that the catastrophe will or would be entirely one of perception. If banks stop lending money then I'm sure it will be catastrophe, too many companies were dependent on short term loans to maintain operations. Food might stop getting shipped if banks cease all loans.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago

The trouble with MSM are that they have to walk a fine line, they can't tell the whole truth because they're owned by some of the most culpable culprits, the 1%; but they have to tell some truth to maintain credibility. Fox Lies was going to be named "GOP TV" but they decided that was a little too telling. And we all know there are no bigger, no less shameless liars than the RepubliCon Cult! Hashtag Deposeboehner!

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

It's like these fukers are on the street corner using gang signs to communicate. That's kinda what I was trying to say earlier.

urban semaphore.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago

There is a lexicon of RW conservative Buzz Words. I'm sure there is a dictionary somewhere. Here's what I found quickly:

"...Clearly, having the duplicative effect of talk radio, Fox News, Republican poltiicians and the right wing blogosphere, all using the catch phrases over and over again, works. And tying the buzzwords to very simple concepts: “stop spending,” “America is broke,” “progressives/liberals are communists”, “Muslims and immigrants are invading us,” “George Soros is the evil puppetmaster controlling all things…” has been devastatingly effective for the right. In fact, they’ve been so effective, some 87 people were elected to the U.S. House of Representatives (and a couple in the Senate) completely programmed with the phrases, and the simplistic ideology that goes with them.

That’s what we’re facing, folks. There is an entire segment of the population whose entire understanding of history and economics boils down to a set of probably Frank Luntz focus-grouped , multi-platform media-repeated slogans. [& Big Lie] They think the slogans are real. They think the papered-over quickie-history and moralistic tropes ingrained in them are real (i.e., the founders intended the country to be ruled by Christian dogma… the civil war wasn’t about slavery… Americans were better off before the New Deal… unions are destructive and workers only appear to want collective bargaining because they’re being coerced by “thugs”… corporations and the rich are morally superior — they are the “productive class” and the “job creators” — and thus should not be taxed and need no regulation… in fact, the very ideas of taxation, regulation and collective bargaining are “communism” … government itself is bad — even evil, etc.) And they want to govern the country based on those tropes.

God help us if they succeed." http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/08/how-to-speak-tea-party-the-catch-phrases-that-rule-the-right/

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

No Americans were not better off before the New Deal, and now there are more of us.

These think tanks need crushing. But before we do it might be useful to use them to undo what they have done before we consign them to the abyss.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago

Always keep them alive, they can be great sources of information into their strange mental aberrations, or they can create electricity on human hamster wheels. I like both.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

LoL! human hamsterwheels I like that. I doubt that we can get them to provide a sufficient input to such a device that would make the application practical - however, by harnessing the output to a pair of electrodes and a relay switch, we could ensure that they continue peddling until they drop ... and while it might not be practical from an energy production standpoint, the entertainment value might well be endless . . .

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago

Think Day of the Dead. Although they didn't handle the Zombie adequately, much data was garnered from the beastly creature.

Any electricity generated could aid in maintenance, or pump water filtration, or test pharmaceuticals, etc.

[-] 0 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 months ago

Just like a weatherperson when a hurricane is coming, some good juicy news to report on!

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 9 months ago

Z-Dog, you came in like a wrecking ball & the last thing you were was cute and sexy. I'm no fan of Twitter or FB, but to the degree that they are vehicles for info they are useful. As for data mining, if you're on the internet you're being mined or tracked, that Pandora's Box has lost it's lid ~ & they have cameras in intersections, too.

Now I have to go & carry my Crucifixion Cross all around downtown.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

On twitter you mean? I wasn't trying for cute and sexy - but I don't believe I did anything that merited getting the boot. Not on twitter. but whatever.

[-] 1 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 months ago

Dude, they banned #occupywallst and #occupy and #ows for at least into mid October. You are spot on when you say its just a record collector. At least here we can exchange thoughts and opinions and get in depth on some stuff.

140 characters is the epitome of the social network nation. Take the most egotystical aspect of Facebook, the "status update" -just think about that, finding the need to announce to the planet what we are having for dinner, or how upset Barbie just made you upset- and make an entire platform out of it. Thats Twitter.

And idiots are going to gobble it up like candy at that IPO. They'll find a way to make money if they can keep the traffic up. We pay for cable, and get as many commercials as we do air time. They'll figure something out.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17440) 9 months ago

I don't like Twitter. I never have.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

140 chars ? wtf?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17440) 9 months ago

Yep. I have the same problem with FB and crap like Pintrest. These are not really social media sites. These control how people socialize with the sole purpose of collecting information. I don't like that shit.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

what's crazy is twitter's IPO. If it is not a platform that will facilitate advertising, then there is no profit to be derived - unless from data harvesting. I doubt it's a viable investment myself. Could be I guess, but you won't know without an examination of the data harvested and it's application.

It would be interesting just to ask them that question.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17440) 9 months ago

You gonna?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

I don't have the money to hold in one hand and thus make the question appear as nothing more than a legitimate business inquiry.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17440) 9 months ago


Well that explains why I don't get responses to my queries.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

with a stock offering I would think that anyone who can demonstrate a capacity to purchase significant number of shares, such questions go to the viability of the business model.