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Forum Post: Try and prove this wrong

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 8, 2011, 5:27 p.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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We are facing many problems in todays version of America. We have presidents that lie to us about acts of war. We have a CIA that starts operations and fuels insurgencies to overthrow foreign nation's governments. We have a supreme court that has ruled that corporations are people and that buying politicians is free speech. We have a system set in place that is extracting wealth from our country. We have a senate and a congress that are passing legislation that clearly violate our constitution.

I welcome any arguments that can disprove any aspect of this list of problems.



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[-] 1 points by hamntash (21) 10 years ago

You did a good job summing the truth up in one paragraph. I like to think we can change some of that.

[-] 1 points by tulcak (698) from Prague, Prague 10 years ago

nope, I can't. cuz its all true. and uhduhmasterbater is asking for specifics? s/he should go find them for himself/herself.

[-] 0 points by utahdebater (-72) 10 years ago

You really showed your mental prowess there with that insult.


[-] 0 points by chestRockwell (-4) 10 years ago

You forgot that we don't live in a hippie paradise, its more like a honkey paradise, I am sick of the white man.

[-] 0 points by DunkiDonut2 (-108) 10 years ago

When you say corporations arent people, you mean that the people that own shares in the company that meet during stock holder meetings and vote on the direction of the company,,,, the people arent people?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

Those individuals already have rights and freedom of speech. Why can a corporation donate massive amounts of money to the president but I can only donate 2,500 under law?

[-] 0 points by utahdebater (-72) 10 years ago

Sorry, but could you post specific examples? I wanna try to prove you wrong.

[-] 1 points by blazefire (947) 10 years ago

Highlight whichever of his claims you want. Cut and paste in to google.....then you'll see! Orrrrr, just hang around these forums for long enough....Either way, you'll see...

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

The Muhajideen and the Afghan Arabs in 1979 were funded and armed by the CIA. Fun fact Osama was in the Afghan Arabs.

The federal reserve recently created 7.7 trillion dollars out of thin air after receiving our tax payer dollar bailout money.

The patriot act deleted the 4th amendment.

Now look at what they tried to do with section 1031 in the National Defense Authorization Act.

The evidence of Weapons of Mass destruction was fabricated and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

The Libyan rebels supported by the Obama administration and NATO have many Al Qaeda members. A few men in congress have done presentations on the evidence of this. As well as former LIFG and current rebel leader who openly admits he has al qaeda members who have fought against US soldier in Iraq.

In 2002 the supreme court ruled the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act, also known as McCain-Feingold, as unconstitutional because it limited free speech. Which is bullshit because if you ban corporate financing; 100% of US citizens still have the right to free speech. As of now I can only donate 2,500 dollar to a presidential campaign, by law. Research how much corporations can donate.

[-] -1 points by justhefacts (1275) 10 years ago

Welcome to the reality that millions of people have been trying to get through the public's head for years.

What's your point?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

What's your point?

Are you essentially telling me that, "It's been mentioned in the past so let's never talk about it again" ??

If so, that is horrible logic. If not, I am not sure about your question of what my point is. My point is sharing information, particularly in regards to the NDAA of 2011. That didn't pass years ago. It passed in 2011.