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Forum Post: To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.

Posted 12 years ago on Sept. 29, 2011, 12:03 a.m. EST by ows (1)
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I think one of the underlying concerns people have today, aside from government criminality and the obstruction of justice, is that many people's needs aren't being met in the current system. I saw one video where people at the protest had said: "You can see this as a microsociety. It's a model for a new society. It's not a protest in the sense of being against something. It's a way to formulate something new." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwWInp75ua0) It seems that people at these protests would be open to education about how to build a society that truly meets the needs of all people and how this is not a function of government or money but of the use of science and technological innovation by the people. It could be a good place to educate about the modern phenomena of technological unemployment and post-scarcity. Outside of the profit-oriented system, machines could free people and create an abundance of resources for everyone. It would be great to see discussion about how to move towards a resource based economy (ideally before the total collapse of the monetary system) and hear global sustainability activists' ideas and speeches. Ultimately, I think everyone needs to unite and focus on figuring out how we're going to sustain ourselves and the planet in a healthy, peaceful way and present that as a solution by and for the people (without involving the corrupt government.) There could be an open forum for the revolution of people's values and ideas for improving the condition of man (leading to action), and it could perhaps start by raising awareness about the research of the Venus Project or showing the Zeitgeist films.

"We live in a fictional global matrix. In essence it is composed of chimeras and LIES. For instance the state is just an idea, a fiction. It has no spirit or living substance. It is a figment of the human imagination as is 'money' and 'legislation'. Such fictions have been created as control mechanisms. They are only effective if humans believe them to be real. Once humanity dispenses with corporate and other fictions designed to control and enslave sovereign beings they can begin to perfect themselves and their civilization. Jacque Fresco says the process could be completed in ten years and I agree that it could. All that is needed is for humans to want to make the personal and societal paradigm adjustments needed." (http://abundanthope.net/pages/Environment_Science_69/Imagining-a-World-Without-Money.shtml)

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[-] 2 points by Richard (12) 12 years ago

Hello , i posted some ideas in money is not real blog to think about. Here i wanna point you to search how citizens of Iceland (island south of greenland , west from norway) , are solving their problems http://sacsis.org.za/site/article/728.1 . Thats a way , easier to achieve in small communities like iceland , but it is indicative .

[-] 2 points by intuityourstrategy (8) from Portland, OR 12 years ago

Totally agree. Also, I've just found/checked out the parallel common law government, under the constitution, that already exists: http://republicfortheunitedstates.org/ it can be both/and, about having representation, as designed in the constitution, from a governance standpoint, while figuring out nuts and bolts of the new paradigm of creating how we want to live, as above =) also check out http://www.wholetruthshow.com - The whole truth about love and Money, with Alexis Neely, who is actively processing these very questions, in her life, intentional community, and business, in a raw, cutting edge, real way. =)

[-] 2 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

hell yeah! https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150409084095833

lets build the new civilization together. starting with improving this site with sub forums and a wiki.

[-] 1 points by powertothepeople (1264) 12 years ago

: ) is the solution to the sub-forum problem a different piece of software? Or does the admin just need to go in and change a few things on the existing system?

I can suggest a wordpress forum plug-in if needed

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

depends on the power of the initial program and the skill of the admin. a phpbb installation might be called for. I'm not going to try to make that call for the admin.

[-] 1 points by npowell85 (249) from Montana City, Mt 12 years ago

the admin is working on it. hopefully tonight

[-] 2 points by powertothepeople (1264) 12 years ago

Somewhat along the same lines: when I hear people who are upset because they are jobless, I want to share that we can create our own "jobs", our own livelihoods, by trading with each other, locally and over the internet. I support myself comfortably with several small ecommerce enterprises. There are limitless possibilities. We do not have to beg the government OR the corporations for jobs & employment justice. We can begin to create our own livelihood and opt out of the current system.

[-] 1 points by ows (1) 12 years ago

To free humanity from the establishment which values the use of force, greed, and profits over people, we must unite to create a new model for a new society that makes the current establishment obsolete and then build it ourselves. We cannot "ask the mafia to solve the problem of crime." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHNDwZM_AS4) People at these protests are seeking change, and the collective consciousness must shift to the reality that we are all part of humanity, we are in this together, and we can and must change the world ourselves. The genuine open-mindedness, interest, and willingness to build something new, to unite and take the power into our own hands, is one of the greatest strengths of the people occupying Wall Street.

This is a great speech by Charlie Chaplin from "The Great Dictator" on human unity to create liberty and prosperity for all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLci5DoZqHU "You the people have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness. You the people have the power to make life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy let's use that power, let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give you the future and old age and security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power, but they lie. They do not fulfill their promise, they never will. Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people. Now let us fight to fulfill that promise. Let us fight to free the world, to do away with national barriers, do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men's happiness."