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Forum Post: To all with a faith in the Democrats

Posted 6 years ago on Feb. 16, 2012, 11:53 p.m. EST by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC
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Will you people PLEASE tell me ( in a at least semi- realistic way) why the democrat party is any different from the republican party?? I'm not talking about their rhetoric. I'm talking about their actions.



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[-] 3 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 6 years ago

Corporate money buys both!!

Whose interests do you think they serve? If you say "The American People" ................. I'll give you another guess.

[-] 2 points by Heldhostage (11) 6 years ago

They both evolved from the same party, the Democratic Republican Party. However there does seem to be a difference in motive. I agree with some of the other posts. Especially on civil and individual rights issues, the Democrat SC appointments have been more rational. The appointees by the Republicans tend to make decisions that leaving you searching the constitution to try to find some kind of valid understanding on where how made their judgement.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 6 years ago

The difference is in who they would appoint to the Supreme Court (and all other federal courts). Look at al of the 5-4 rulings and you'll see: The difference in the kinds of appointments is crystal clear.

[-] 1 points by Chugwunka (89) from Willows, CA 6 years ago

Okay. I can agree with the stupidity of the whole "corporations are people" ruling. But. There are other rulings too.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 6 years ago


[-] 2 points by ancientmariner (275) 6 years ago

Black Sun

Black Sun, radiating darkness, From what still mire do you spring?
What twisted alleyways of mind, Molested by visions of what blood and retribution?

Black Sun, from what catacombs of tortured being, Do these dreams spring to haunt your children's days, And blight the poisoned sojourn of their lives - That they accompanied all their days will be, by the ruthless spector of relentless night?

[-] -2 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 6 years ago

You have some poetic talent. But that isn't the answer.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 6 years ago

I've been an Independent for 30 yrs.... It's not the old republicans that are very different... it's the new ones that are REALLY a HATEFUL bunch of crap ...

[-] 1 points by gosso920 (-24) 6 years ago

The Republicans want to take away half your rights. The Democrats want to take away the other half.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 6 years ago

I am an Independent ... because I do not want to support division ...

however to answer your question ... in general.. (there are extremists on both sides) ... the Dems care about the poor and the elderly ... the Reps do not ... that is the primary difference ... and not that the Dems have a good answer ... but at least they try ....

a "Social Reserve Bank" will solve this problem for both sides

[-] 1 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 6 years ago

The answer is: The two parties are Not Very Different.

The underlying policies in terms of "Monetary, Military, Subsidies, Income Taxes, and Drugs" have been the same for many, many years.

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 6 years ago

The Democrats are far from perfect and many here, including myself, consider them a pretty sorry batch of "saviors". That said, it's better to try to put a spine in a party whose corruption causes them to vacillate and back down when they shouldn't than it is to hand even more power to a party whose corruption causes them to point the country toward the edge of a cliff and shove with all their might. Why is it better to become the spine of a party with backbone issues? Once you provide their momentum, they owe you and they need you. Think of how fast the Republican Party's tone shifted once the Tea Party got involved at the grass-roots level; what's to say that we couldn't commandeer the Democrats and make them prioritize our opinion?

Even more importantly, we need to remember that the president is responsible for choosing the Supreme Court Justices (and Congress is responsible for confirming them). To sum it up, if we had a different court in 2010 then Citizens United would not have been what it was. If we'd had a different court in 2001, then we never would have had to deal with Bush II and the unwarranted and frankly unjustified war in Iraq.

So far Obama's made (and with much huffing and puffing Congress eventually confirmed) two appointments to the court and they've turned out quite nicely. By contrast, even if Romney and a mostly Republican Congress wouldn't necessarily want to put another round of obnoxious reactionaries who subscribe to the "corporations are people" mantra on the court, they'd be under a hell of a lot of pressure from people like Grover Norquist to do just that. The question is whether we want something approaching a moderate, impartial court or simply a rubber-stamp body for neocons.

[-] 0 points by JIFFYSQUID92 (-994) from Portland, OR 6 years ago

I'm happy to explain or apprise people of things that they may not have the opportunity to find out about by themselves, or if something is hidden from their view, but if someone chooses ignorance or maintains a bias in spite of facts that prove otherwise; will you, BlackSun, "PLEASE tell me ( in a at least semi- realistic way) why" I should waste my time??

Did you recently come out of a coma?

Are you a victim of "No Child Left Behind" education?

Were you in an area or cloistered in a culture that was void of "information?"

Is there an excuse beyond bias?

You are on the internet here, why don't you research it yourself?

Do you think you would be more apt to believe some else telling you over finding out the information for yourself?

Or are you looking for an argument?

How deep and wide is your lack of knowledge?

Do you even know what the parties are?

Do you know what politics, government, laws, taxes, countries, states, counties, districts, RW, LW, Lib, Con, Independent, the 3 branches, the 4th branch, the Constitution, BORs, DOI, Revolution, Civil War, KKK, Labor Wars, Great Depression, Prohibition, FDR, WW-I-2, SSI, UI, JFK, MLK, '68, Civil Rights, Watergate, Pentegon Papers, Nam, John Birch Society, Cold War, McCarthyism, LBJ, Medicare, Cointelpro, Nixon, Religious Right, RayGun, RayGun-Omics, Iran-Contra, 2000 Supreme Court Presidential appointment, De-Reg, 9-11, Afghan-Iraq, WS-Inside Job, Great Depression-2, etc., on and on?

How much would we have to explain? Where would we have to start?