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Forum Post: To all complaining about gas prices.

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 28, 2012, 7:34 p.m. EST by shield (222)
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If you don't like the prices you pay for a product, make your own or STOP BUYING IT.

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[-] 2 points by toukarin (488) 2 years ago

Right, the price of crude is rising due to speculations about war with Iran and oil companies are using it to pad their margins despite the fact that actual cost of production has not risen... and this is something we should just accept?

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

Like I said, NO. Don't buy it.

[-] 1 points by FreeDiscussion5 (12) 2 years ago

Obama can fix it. waiting,,,, waiting,,,, waiting, w,w,w,w,w,w.

[-] 1 points by EndGluttony (507) 2 years ago

You're a genius. Do you think our modern automobiles have kept up with the technological advancement in other fields? Do you really believe that in 2012 we should still be using the internal combustion engine? Do you believe the oil companies deserve their billions and billions of dollars in profits? Profits reaped and hoarded in part thanks to collusion with the automobile industry and the US government? Your solution is to bend over and take it up the ass. You're just too dumb to figure out whose dick it is in your dumb ass.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

You misinterpreted my advice. I said if you're unwilling to pay for something, stop buying it. If you realize that that is your only option, it forces you to look for alternatives. If you think that you can simply make demands of the industry to change their practices, nothing will change. One group will continue to use force against another and no technological progress will occur. Efficient change requires a necessity for that change to occur and for people to begin to reject the old and seek the new.

Energy Solution: http://www.cheniere.org/

[-] 1 points by Pottsandahalf (141) 2 years ago

Nice. Well put

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

does that go for making our own electricity or digging our own well for water? They took our water rights away from us too. I bought a house but illl be damned if i have water or mineral rights to drill a well.

[-] 2 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

They can't take your rights. They can only deny you permission to exercise them. They can only do this by force. You (and the rest of us) are the source of their authority. If they deny it, which they will, they are acting as conquerors and their power must be taken from them. Governments are the creations of men. When they do not serve men, and instead force men to serve them, they are no longer legitimate.

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

well said!

[-] 1 points by ThunderclapNewman (1083) from Nanty Glo, PA 2 years ago

Hey, isn't that the same schtick drug dealers say?

[-] 1 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

what exactly are you talking about. US make profit out of conversion of raw oil. in fact US is exporter of gas. i think gold market, money market and assets markets are virtual. For example, there is less gold in the banks than in the gold market, make parallel drawing and realize already that oil prices are stilted high.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

The reality for me is my customers will have no choice but to buy gasoline, leaving them nothing to spend at my store. I think they should continue spending at my store and cut somewhere else, but that's not reality.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

I don't have any idea how to interpret what you are saying. It does not make sense, aside from the fact that you wish for people to continue purchasing gasoline at your store.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

I can't make money selling gasoline. Those profits are for others, so I don't care whether they buy it or not unless they come inside. My customers have no money left for buying the products inside my store where I can make money. The price of gasoline and diesel changes the economy as dramatically as anything.

Visa/Mastercard make twice as much as my salary while my business loses money. The higher the price, the more they make.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

sounds like you made a poor business choice then.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

Yes I did. I was unaware that price fixing was legal if done correctly.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

yeah, the antitrust legislation was actually a tool through which United States engineered its ability to establish coercive monopolies while destroying the free market.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

The free market is not free for everybody.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

that's stupid. The reality is that what is called the free market is not a free market.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

touche'

[-] 1 points by TheTrollSlayer (347) from Kingsport, TN 2 years ago

This is brilliant and should solve all our problems. Tell me, did you come up with this all by yourself or somebody help you.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

It is something I have always believed. If you have a problem with a voluntary relationship which you engage in, either dictate your own terms and refuse to do business if the other party does not accept, or find another way to accomplish your goals which does not involve said relationship.

[-] 1 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

Buy me a Nissan Leaf and I'll never, EVER buy another gallon of gas again!

[-] 2 points by Chugwunka (89) from Willows, CA 2 years ago

But what fuel will power the electricity you'll need to charge that car?

[-] 1 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

Jesus and goat farts.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

Buy it yourself if you want it.

[-] 0 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

I can't afford it.

[-] 1 points by BearDickinson (125) from Ewing, VA 2 years ago

Take off the blinders, people - money rules - untill we change this - "So today, Wall Street once again is laughing all the way to the bank. Once again, federal regulators should move aggressively to end excessive oil speculation. We must do everything we can to lower gas prices so that they reflect the fundamentals of supply and demand and bring needed relief to the American people. The time for real action is now."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/28/opinion/sanders-gas-speculation/index.html

[-] 2 points by JuanFenito (847) 2 years ago

That's right. Hopefully we can move society in a direction where money won't matter anymore.

[-] 1 points by onepercentguy (294) 2 years ago

love it. means fewer cars on the roads. driving is so much more enjoyable.

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

id be glad to ride my horse to work and the store, but the government wont let me. lucky for them i am under command of thou shalt not kill cause i think about it every time they take my money. im tired of paying for roads, hell we are so broke now we cant afford the gasoline, or registration or insurance, or all the other fees our government put upon us to break us.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

I've done that for the past 3 years. Been living in foreign countries teaching English, first China and then Argentina. I either walked to work or took public transportation. The big cities in China have great subway systems. Saved a lot of money that way.

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 2 years ago

Don't you ever miss driving cars just for the fun of it though?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Yes, I missed the independence and convenience of having a car sometimes. I'm back in LA now, but am thinking of going abroad again.

[-] 0 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

ok ill just get my horse and buggy out to ride to work oh but what should I do when the police officer pulls me over, shoot him?

[-] 0 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

ride a bike? take a bus? take a train? work closer to home? live closer to work?

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

self employed, need my generator welder, had a thousand saved up last year, but the dmv said i couldnt drive to work cause i had a check engine light, paid there stupid over regualted inspection fee and then started over at zero. remembered it, but will never forget it.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

I've read that you only need to pay attention to DMV if you've got a vehicle registered for commercial purposes (via the registration they tell you is compulsory). Don't know if this is correct or not. It's not high on my list of priorities for investigation but it makes sense. I'd look into it if driving is a major concern of yours.

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[-] 0 points by JanitorInaDrum (134) 2 years ago

Please, raise it much higher!

I'd like to see 7/gallon by summer.

[-] 2 points by jart (1145) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I wish it were higher still, like $10 or more. Oh my god all the ways the world would change for the better! It would be incredible. There wouldn't be cars speeding all over the place trying to run me over, honking nonstop, polluting the air. Jobs might actually come closer to home and the logistical infrastructure of companies like Walmart would collapse. The war machine would start grinding to a halt. Please please let gas become that expensive.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

OMG! Don't you understand the suffering that would occur? We would have radical change, that's for sure.

[-] 2 points by jart (1145) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Things always get worse before they get better. White suburbanites can learn to take the bus, people can give up their grassy lawns to start growing food so we don't have to pump the soil full of fossil fuels to grow shit at factory farms, and the cheap disposal crap we buy from china will finally stop drilling a hole into your pocket and force you to actually care for your possessions.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

There are many people that don't have grassy lawns or able to buy the cheap crap from China. Many people would die! You are failing to grasp the reality of this subject. There would be a collapse much worse than you realize. There has to be another way other than $10 per gallon gasoline!

[-] 1 points by jart (1145) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Isn't $10 how much gas costs in Europe though? I know America isn't Europe, but I imagine it's very possible---especially if the price is raised gradually.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 2 years ago

It's only possible if you accept much more severe suffering and I expect all of us to help protect the weak. The Robin Hood tax should begin immediately as an alternative.

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[-] 0 points by JuanFenito (847) 2 years ago

That's not how it works, buddy boy. If we don't like something, we work to CHANGE it. It is our natural right. If something requires an excessive amount of labor to produce, the people making it will have to work for less.

[-] 1 points by shield (222) 2 years ago

so work to change it. Don't demand that others work to change it. How can you change the terms of a voluntary relationship? By setting your own terms and insisting that the other party deal with you on those terms or refusing to deal with them at all. Those are the only moral ways to change such a relationship. You could always employ military force to get others to change, but that would be immoral conduct in what would otherwise be a voluntary relationship.

[-] 0 points by JuanFenito (847) 2 years ago

I really need to change the terms of OTHER people's voluntary relationships, not just the ones I am involved in. I need to make other people's insurance premiums go up so I can have free contraception! Yay!

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

the problem is nothing works, ive been workign all my life to have one thing my way, and im still going to lose my business and my home, and im almost 50 years old.

[-] 1 points by ThunderclapNewman (1083) from Nanty Glo, PA 2 years ago

You say "Nothing works", yet you resist the change we offer. What change would you make?

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

i dont resist the change you make, i just dont have faith, the infection of our society is past the point of no return. the elite cannot even perceive that they are taking advantange of the poor.

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[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22246) 2 years ago

I have a cousin who uses cooking oil from restaurants to fuel his cars which are all antiques. He's so cool.

[-] -1 points by PretendHitGirI (13) 2 years ago

Please raise it much higher so that it seriously hurts all but the most wealthy. The cries of the young and poor mean nothing while changing the same.