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Posted 1 year ago on April 26, 2012, 8:18 a.m. EST by flip (4976)
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The Children of Fallujah - Sayef's Story By Robert Fisk

For little Sayef, there will be no Arab Spring. He lies, just 14 months old, on a small red blanket cushioned by a cheap mattress on the floor, occasionally crying, his head twice the size it should be, blind and paralysed. Sayeffedin Abdulaziz Mohamed – his full name – has a kind face in his outsized head and they say he smiles when other children visit and when Iraqi families and neighbours come into the room.

But he will never know the history of the world around him, never enjoy the freedoms of a new Middle East. He can move only his hands and take only bottled milk because he cannot swallow. He is already almost too heavy for his father to carry. He lives in a prison whose doors will remain forever closed.

It's as difficult to write this kind of report as it is to understand the courage of his family. Many of the Fallujah families whose children have been born with what doctors call "congenital birth anomalies" prefer to keep their doors closed to strangers, regarding their children as a mark of personal shame rather than possible proof that something terrible took place here after the two great American battles against insurgents in the city in 2004, and another conflict in 2007.

After at first denying the use of phosphorous shells during the second battle of Fallujah, US forces later admitted that they had fired the munitions against buildings in the city. Independent reports have spoken of a birth-defect rate in Fallujah far higher than other areas of Iraq, let alone other Arab countries. No one, of course, can produce cast-iron evidence that American munitions have caused the tragedy of Fallujah's children.

Sayef lives – the word is used advisedly, perhaps – in the al-Shahada district of Fallujah, in one of the more dangerous streets in the city. The cops – like the citizens of Fallujah, they are all Sunni Muslims – stand with their automatic weapons at the door of Sayef's home when we visit, but two of these armed, blue-unformed men come inside with us and are visibly moved by the helpless baby on the floor, shaking their heads in disbelief and with a hopelessness which his father, Mohamed, refuses to betray.

"I think all this is because of the use by the Americans of phosphorous in the two big battles," he says. "I have heard of so many cases of congenital birth defects in children. There has to be a reason. When my child first went to the hospital, I saw families there with exactly the same problems."

Studies since the 2004 Fallujah battles have recorded profound increases in infant mortality and cancer in Fallujah; the latest report, whose authors include a doctor at Fallujah General Hospital, says that congenital malformations account for 15 per cent of all births in Fallujah.

"My son cannot support himself," Mohamed says, fondling his son's enlarged head. "He can move only his hands. We have to bottle-feed him. He can't swallow. Sometimes he can't take even the milk, so we have to take him to hospital to be given fluids. He was blind when he was born. In addition, my poor little man's kidney has shut down. He got paralysed. His legs don't move. His blindness is due to hydrocephalus."

Mohamed holds Sayef's useless legs and moves them gently up and down. "After he was born, I got Sayef to Baghdad and I had the most important neurosurgeons check him. They said they could do nothing. He had a hole in his back that was closed and then a hole in his head. The first operation did not succeed. He had meningitis."

Both Mohamed and his wife are in their mid-thirties. Unlike many tribal families in the area, neither are related and their two daughters, born before the battles of Fallujah, are in perfect health. Sayef was born on 27 January, 2011. "My two daughters like their brother very much," Mohamed adds, "and even the doctors like him. They all take part in the care of the child. Dr Abdul-Wahab Saleh has done some amazing work on him – Sayef would not be alive without him."

Mohamed works for an irrigation mechanics company but admits that, with a salary of only $100 a month, he receives financial help from relatives. He was outside Fallujah during the conflict but returned two months after the second battle only to find his house mined; he received funding to rebuild his home in 2006. He watches Sayef for a long time during our conversation and then lifts him in his arms.

"Every time I watch my son, I'm dying inside," he says, tears running down his face. "I think about his destiny. He is getting heavier all the time. It's more difficult to carry him." So I ask whom he blames for Sayef's little calvary. I expect a tirade of abuse against the Americans, the Iraqi government, the Health Ministry. The people of Fallujah have long been portrayed as "pro-terrorist" and "anti-Western" in the world's press, ever since the murder and cremation of the four American mercenaries in the city in 2004 – the event which started the battles for Fallujah in which up to 2,000 Iraqis, civilians and insurgents, died, along with almost 100 US troops.

But Mohamed is silent for a few moments. He is not the only father to show his deformed child to us. "I am only asking for help from God," he says. "I don't expect help from any other human being." Which proves, I guess, that Fallujah – far from being a city of terror – includes some very brave men.

Fallujah: A history

The first battle of Fallujah, in April 2004, was a month-long siege, during which US forces failed to take the city, said to be an insurgent stronghold. The second battle, in November, flattened the city. Controversy raged over claims US troops had deployed white phosphorus shells. A 2010 study said increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukaemia in Fallujah exceeded those reported by survivors of the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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[-] 4 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

A London court is set to hear a case involving the alleged use of uranium-enhanced weapons by US-led forces in the deadly 2004 battle for Fallujah. Some say it is the cause of horrific birth defects and congenital diseases in the Iraqi city.

­Please note that the video contains disturbing images

http://rt.com/news/uranium-birth-defects-fallujah-729/

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

It seems that experimental or not yet disclosed weapons may have been used. Something very strange and horrible happened in Fallujah.

[-] 0 points by Barkod3 (-2) 1 year ago

and all that crap happened cuz the HA!merican clowns had nothing better to do but humbly follow the orders of their masters, the zionists. Effing traitorous pigs!

[-] 1 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 1 year ago

I would believe that over the use of white phosphorous as the cause for birth defects.

[-] 2 points by Shule (1530) 1 year ago

"U.S. get out of the Middle-East; stop making wars!" definitely needs to be part of the OWS platform. There can be no equity and justice in this world for anybody until these wars made by those ruling the U.S. stop.

[-] 1 points by bklynsboy (834) 1 year ago

Also courtesy of US: burn pits for garbage and waste disposal where carcinogens and birth defect chemicals pump into the air and groundwater. These sicken US soldiers too!

Depleted uranium munitions that kill and sicken the enemy as well as us soldiers.

[-] 2 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

lots of sickening examples of what our government does - to others and our own people - needs to be changed. got any good ideas on how to change things?

[-] -1 points by bklynsboy (834) 1 year ago

Ron paul: no wars, no interventions.

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

well he has that part of it right - as to the rest of his ideas i think he is out of his free market mind

[-] 1 points by bklynsboy (834) 1 year ago

Yes, his other ideas are nuts, but no war is so overpowering it compensates.

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

i think we can do better - i hope

[-] 1 points by bklynsboy (834) 1 year ago

Endless war destroys all parties involved. Another way is have congress composed of people who will not approve military financing. Even harder with MIC lobby and PAC money. There must be a vast popular anti war movement like Vietnam. Unfortunately they have become adept at dumbing and anesthetizing the population.

[-] 1 points by niphtrique (323) from Sneek, FR 1 year ago

The US can only be stopped with brute force, for example a message from God:


There are indications for a design involving the number 11 being behind the September 11, 2001 attacks on the US and the March 11, 2004 Madrid bombings. September 11 can be rewritten as 911, while 9+1+1=11. 911 is the US emergency services telephone number. There are 911 full days (912 calendar days) between the September 11, 2001 and March 11, 2004 attacks. Because of the different time zones the EU and the US are in, the 912th day was not fully completed.

The extra calendar day made the Madrid bombing happening at the 11th day of the month, exactly 2.5 years after September 11, 2001 while the numbers making up the date March 11, 2004 added up make 11 (3+1+1+2+4=11). If history was designed, this may have been a design consideration.

Two out of three flights hitting targets on September 11, 2001 were from American Airlines. American Airlines uses the characters AA for its flight codes. When the characters of the flight codes are transformed to digits, they both resolve to 11 making an 11:11 combination. Both American Airlines flights had a flight number that is a multiple of 11 (11 and 77), making another 11:11 combination. The first plane hitting a target was American Airlines flight AA11, which makes an 11:11 combination. Both the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon were (first) hit by an American Airlines (AA) flight, making the other flights of secondary importance.

On November 29, 2011 American Airlines filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection [+]. As November 29, 2011 can be read as 11/29/11 or 29/11/2011, while 2+9=11 and 20=9+11, filing for Chapter 11 on this date is remarkable, as the flight code AA can be translated to 11.

Both towers had 110 floors, which is an 11:11 combination because there were two towers. Both towers had 99 elevators, which is another 11:11 combination. 99 is 9 times 11, which makes a 9:11 combination. September 11 was the 254th day of the year while 2+5+4=11. Beginning with September 11, the remainder of the year lasted 112 days, while 112 is the European emergency services telephone number.

After 99 days of burning, NYC declares the WTC fires were extinguished. The WTC towers collapsed to a height of 11 stories. The first Fire Unit to arrive to the WTC towers was FDNY Unit 1. Unit 1 lost 11 firemen. The total number of firemen killed was 343, which is 7x7x7. On July 7, 2005 (7/7/7 considering that 2+0+0+5=7) the terrorist attacks in London took place.

The Twin Towers standing side by side looked like the number 11. Adding the digits of each Airplane's flight numbers yields: Flight #11 = 11, Flight #93 = 12 (9+3=12), Flight #175 = 13 (1+7+5=13) and Flight #77 = 14 (7+7=14). Flight AA11 had 11 crew members, consisting of 2 pilots and 9 flight attendants. The numbers of passengers on the planes were 92, 65, 64 and 44. The following observations can be made: 9+2=11, 6+5=11 and 44 is a multiple of 11, while 4+4=8, 8x8=64 and 64-44=9+11. A number of names of people, items and places that have played a significant role in the events consist of 11 letters [+], for example: George W. Bush, Air Force One, New York City, The Pentagon, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.

On September 11, 2002, exactly one year after the 9/11 attacks, the winning numbers drawn in the New York State Lottery were 9-1-1. Because there were two such draws, the odds of randomly drawing these numbers was around 1:500 [+].

Another coincidence referring to September 11 can be found in the film The Matrix which was made in 1999. About 17 minutes into the film, a file folder is shown containing an image of the passport of the main character Neo (see picture to the right). The expiry date of the passport is September 11, 2001. This is remarkable considering the fact that the coincidences surrounding September 11 demonstrate that we live in a virtual reality similar to The Matrix.

The Twin Towers symbolised the usury financial system while the Pentagon stands for the military industrial complex. Both have to be annihilated to make a peaceful future possible. While the United States wreaked havoc around the world for decades most Americans remained blissfully ignorant. Life was easy in the American Dream and as long as most people had a good life no questions were asked. The September 11 attacks demonstrate that other people see things differently. It is time for a change and everyone should become aware of the consequences of their actions.


Much more weird stuff on:

http://www.naturalmoney.org/coincidents.html

You may think that I am a weirdo, but look...

the first responder on this thread was....

Builder (911) 1 week ago (at the moment of posting this message)

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

We need to come up with another focus as the 'monster,' not just 'the United States.' Many people will simply turn off immediately and not consider the article or its arguments.

The America-can-do-no-wrong crowd still see the U.S. and its military as the the force driving the Nazis back across Europe and storming the beaches of the Iwo Jima. We need to find a way to reach or jar them, by coming from a different angle.

I would suggest that the monster be described as the torture-loving, woman-and-child killing, night-raid-terrorist, drug-dealing (you think the Marines just protect Afghan opium without the officers at the top getting a cut?? Are you stupid?), revolving-door-to-corporate-millions, traitors-to-American-values Pentagon generals.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I understood that they used uranium 238 bullets

because the mettle is extremely heavy so bullets could cut through tank armor

however, the mettle is also radio active

[-] 1 points by mantelln (8) 1 year ago

Yeah the US and the US Military needs to get its shit together.

Maybe we should somehow set up a system where citizens get to monitor decisions like this being made in real time and be able to override orders to use certain tactics and materials... or somehow alert the president and demand the presidents attention and demand the president's reporting on it... we have the technology and I'm sure press would love it...

Maybe we can figure out certain kinds of decisions that aren't strategically sensitive and allow those to be monitored.

In this case we should build monitoring devices into the weapons/materials being used so the military units deploying these materials can't "go rogue" and hide what they are doing in these situations. No doubt in my mind that this would be technically feasible...

It doesn't sound like the decision to use phosphorous shells was such a strategically sensitive decision, more like some kind of fucked up idea of retribution intended to punish people for the long term.

Maybe we should also try not to continuously wage wars on other countries... I really hope that won't have to be our future...

[-] 5 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

we need real democracy

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[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 1 year ago

The US is responsible for so much of the siffering in the world...I am from Latin America, I know...

[-] 2 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

yes, we have brutalized too many countries there and almost everywhere - just heard an interview with the author of a book on what we have done to cuba - 700 terrorist attacks and 3500 dead - disgusting

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 1 year ago

Yes...and remember what was said about Duvalier... "He may be a son of a bitch, but he's OUR son of a bitch... The average us citizen is completely unaware of what has been, and what is being done in the name of "democracy"... Thank you for realizing the truth.

[-] 1 points by daness (10) 1 year ago

Here here!

CIA Secret Wars Killed 6 Million People - Government Coverup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R8gKQGmoao&feature=related

Guess who was the leader of the CIA for many of those years. That's right...our very own Papa Bush.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 1 year ago

JFKII - The Bush Connection - Complete Documentary

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4330031689287456187#

[-] 1 points by daness (10) 1 year ago

Thanks kindly! More Confirmation. TPTB have done such a dastardly job of making the word "conspiracy" into a dirty word. We have to change that and make people understand that uncovering a "conspiracy" equals "critical thinking". People are sooooo afraid of breaking from the pack.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 1 year ago

You are welcome and thank you!

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[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Can you give some examples that people in the U.S. may not be aware of?

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 1 year ago

There are so many throughout history...the US installed military dictatorships in Latin America are just one example, E. Timor; Biafra; Vietnam; Iraq, etc. It is about Empire...

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Maybe the question should be where hasn't the U.S stuck it's nose in the internal affairs of other countries ?

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 1 year ago

Yes, I think we knowthe answer to that...

[-] -2 points by takim (23) 1 year ago

the usa ( and its allies) liberated europe and the nations invaded by japan. the usa liberated the over 50 mil people in iraq. garnett,......you know nothing.

[-] 3 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 1 year ago

To be liberated is to be free. We haven't liberated so much as a house cat in Iraq. We have just changed the face of oppression and genocide.

[-] -1 points by takim (23) 1 year ago

i suppose you haven't heard the news,..............saddam hussein is dead

[-] 2 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 1 year ago

I suppose you haven't heard the news - people in Iraq are still subjected to unreasonable curfews, military oppression, a total lack of civil rights... I could go on and on. But wait! Journalists have already done that for me!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28333

Educate yourself.

[-] -3 points by takim (23) 1 year ago

saddam hussein was feeding the citizens of his country to viscious dogs,........putting live people into industrial shredders,......... raping women. the usa stopped all that.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Extraordinary rendition, you mean? That would be the see eye aye you're talking about. The usa funds and arranges that.

[-] 2 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 1 year ago

and who told you that? the same ones that told you america didnt waterboard when interrogating? the same ones that told you saddam had WMD's? just who told you that?

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[-] 2 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 1 year ago

If I'm not mistaken the US created the dictator hussien because the afghan taliban had gotten too powerful with American money and military weapons given to oppose the russian invasion, so hussien was needed to create a balance in the region.

[-] 2 points by Craiggiedangit (99) 1 year ago

Blind Bush following troll.

[-] 1 points by daness (10) 1 year ago

Secrets of the CIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RXPJmqkxmI&feature=related

Papa Bush, leader of the CIA for years.......

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[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

You mean our boy Saddam is dead? Who would have thought it?

[-] 2 points by GarnetMoon (424) 1 year ago

:-D

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 1 year ago

You need to know history my friend, only those that have suffered at the hands of the opressors know the truth...

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[-] 0 points by Barkod3 (-2) 1 year ago

Over 80% of humans are monsters. It's just that Israel's lil bitch, HA!merica, has a better PR ..

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

i think you have it backwards - israel is america's puppet - we pay the piper - we call the tune

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[-] 4 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 1 year ago

Thank you for that insight, ADOLF.

So now your thing is repeating Nazi propaganda? Jews do not now, nor have they ever had, "the most pull" on in our financial world, you racist prick..

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[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 1 year ago

Jews do not, and never did, have "the most power" about ANYTHING.

This is not an example of Godwin's law, idiot. Hchc uttered an IDENTICAL lie about Jews that the Nazi's did. Not somewhat similar. NOt reminiscent of. IDENTICAL.

Saying the White people have the most power is not racist because it is TRUE. Repeating an Anti-semitic LIE is racist because it is a LIE based on prejudice alone.

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[-] -1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 1 year ago

Oops, there's another instance of your butting in to defend a racist post.

Go fuck yourself.

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[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 1 year ago

You are a fucking tool.

Racial stereotyping is the very definition of racism, asshole. Your growing up without racist slurs spewed against you or your people, or have had your family MURDERED as a result of them, is the ONLY reason you can be sanguine about racist language leveled at others. After all, it doesn't effect you, and you are only concerned about yourself.

That makes you a privileged prick.

Go fuck yourself.

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[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 1 year ago

Bullshit. If you didn't care about what religion someone was, why did YOU bring up a FUCKING GODDAMNED LIE about who controls the world economy.

You did NOT say "tremendous amount of pull in relation to their percentage of the population". You said they have that they have "the most pull" you fucking asswipe. ANd that is a racist LIE.

And by the way, you Nazi, anti-Semitism IS fucking racism, shit-for brains. He Germans said the same thing about my family before they murdered most of them.

Go choke in your own bile and die.

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[-] 0 points by Barkod3 (-2) 1 year ago

outta 1 billion (counter)examples, start with this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_vwzjdTi4&feature=related

The most humiliated, ridiculous gang of buffoons in the history of this planet: Israeli colony -- HA!merica

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

you cannot be addressing what i said so i will pass on any comment

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[-] 0 points by Revolutionary (247) 1 year ago

USA the monster shall fall with a big thud.USA has no reason to continue any further.It is run by the evil 1%.

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[-] 0 points by Devoghe (40) 1 year ago

I heard some celebrity a few years back say "The US has become a big angry dog, that will BITE you!" Johnny Depp??

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[-] 0 points by Craiggiedangit (99) 1 year ago

Hating arbitrary political constructs does us nothing. Get a grip, you are debasing the movement. These are the things people stereotype us for, you sound like a troll who is here to make us sound like a bunch of America hating zombie nutjobs.

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[-] -1 points by Craiggiedangit (99) 1 year ago

If you would like to start using proper grammar perhaps your messages will become comprehensible. Until then, your out-of-place racial references will do nothing but prove my point that you are a bigot troll who is trying to make OWS look like we want to destroy the country.

[-] 2 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

oh, you are ows - didn't know that - greatest country in the world don't you think. did you get any of that - sorry i don't like the king's english!

[-] -1 points by Craiggiedangit (99) 1 year ago

Yes, I am OWS, and I, along with other supporters of the movement, don't like you trolls coming around here, co-opting us, and making us look like America hating nutjobs.

Look, it's hard enough to sell basic health care rights, do you think you will do anything but alienate us from people by trying to get people to hate the country?

I realize we hate the US, we just can't say it yet.

[-] 2 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

my country right or wrong - love it or leave it - i am old enough to remember old men saying that to me - they were nixon lovers if i remember correctly

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

For how long have the anti-Americans wrapped themselves in the flag and tried to intimidate real believers in democracy into silence? It's been going on for fourty years - but no more.

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

do you realize that the concept of anti american and anti soviet are similar - go to italy and try to tell someone who is complaining about their government that they are anti italian - they will laugh at you - there is no concept in italy of anti italian or most countries for that matter - the u s and soviets are the only ones i can think of - probably north korea

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

If it had any really definable meaning it would be anti-democratic, or anti government, becaus that is our most defining and unifying institution, and therefore the Republicans who hate government would be antiAmerican.

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

yea, not too much logic out there - the right has quite a propaganda machine but i guess they have been at it for hundreds of years so they should have learned a thing or two. very frustrating when the people who should be with us all the way are thinking like the ruling class - by the way - did you ever see that movie - "the ruling class" with peter o'toole - what a trip

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

No, I missed that movie, thanks. Peter O'Toole was a good actor. Ever see "The Lion in Winter?"

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

not sure if i saw that one - too old to remember!

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

It's really great, you should see it sometime.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

Peter O'Toole IS a great actor much lighter fare - but a favorite of mine- "My Favorite Year" Also old TV - The Education of Max Bickford" last few episodes

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

I've seen neither of these, thanks.

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

got it on the list

[-] 1 points by Craiggiedangit (99) 1 year ago

"real belief in democracy"? Is that what destroying the country is now? He can talk about democracy all he wants, I hope he does. But the average Joe is not going to listen to our message if we are talking about "taking down" the US.

Do you want our movement to succeed or not?

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

Sigh . . . who is this "he" you are reffering to?

[-] 1 points by Craiggiedangit (99) 1 year ago

The OP. Gender descriptors aside.

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[-] -1 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

Purity of brainwashing is important in these times. None of these systems have worked for modern man but each generation thinks they can make whatever fuckhead teacher taught them work.

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[-] -1 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

Your idea of the United Staes is outdated. And yes, it's time for a new nation.

[-] 2 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

and what is my idea - national socialist - you know how that refers to nazis don't you?

[-] -1 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

I am not a nazi. I'm not German. I'm retired. And you have no real idea of what this nation is. You simply puke up what you have been conditioned to believe.

[-] 3 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

Your idea of the United Staes is outdated - this is what you said - then i asked what my idea and you cannot answer - did you say retired or retarded - what you wrote makes very little sense - why on earth would you pick national socialist

[-] -2 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

Why do you care?

[-] 2 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

you made the statement - back it up or go away - that is how it works here - cut the shit - i am as old as you!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Why do you ask ? Never mind you need not answer.

But this is why you should care:

National Socialism (common short form Nazism, German: Nationalsozialismus) was a right-wing socialist (nothing to do with the socialist movement) ideology ... Neo-Nazism - New Order (Nazism) - Nazism and occultism - Nazism and race


Some of the worst known atrocities in History - and you have associated with them. Poor judgement? Ignorance? Does not matter. Now that you are aware you should want to get rid of your association with it.

[-] -2 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

So should I grovel? Should I spout the ingrained lies?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Are you the reincarnation of ImpotentWizzer ? If so - Hey SFB. I understand you think you are a supremacist? Supreme compared to What? Slime Mold? Puss? Gangrene? Leprosy? Anthrax? Ebola?As they are disgusting. Well so are you, so fight amongst yourselves for your pecking order. I think as you are supposed to be some sort of thinking entity that you are supposed to have the advantage - but you are so pathetic - I believe that a common diseased yacks diarrhea has the advantage on you. Your new name is as sad as your old one oh as well as that NKVD bullshit. You should be an immediate ban on this forum just due to the associations of your sick names.

[-] -2 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

How old are you? Do you spend your whole life here?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Scum Bag - Hey - how ya doin sleeze? Took you three days to decide to reply? Soul searching? I believe that if you truly repent you may just find it.

[-] -2 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

3days? I had no idea. You spend all your time here? Teen living in mommys basement? Gonna change the world honey?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Nope I have an adult life - unlike yourself.

You seem to have no life - Hence your username. Or at least an ugly life.

[+] -4 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

Brilliant! And judging by all of you posts you might as well be an immature Red fuckhead. Your time is coming....Red..

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Shit head you had to come looking for me after a three day absence? To make a lame reply to my last comment to you? Well I am just touched - but seriously - your not my type.

BTW - ever look at a political map? If so - ever notice red and blue states? The red ones denote rethuglican influence.


[-] 0 points by NationalSocialist (13) from Berwick, PA 0 minutes ago

I haven't been here in 3 days sweet cheeks. And if you are stupid enough to think that Red means republican.... Go away bitch. ↥like ↧dislike permalink

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[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9727) 1 year ago

Spoken like a true National Socialist (Nazi). This is a blatant personal threat, and if I'm not mistaken that get's you banned from this forum, shit head.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

It never ceases to amaze just how low a troll will go. But it is at the same time appropriate for who they are here representing. Those who are destroying our world. The greedy corrupt criminals of society.

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[-] -3 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

And here is the second one. No surprises. So where are the rest of the hardcore circle jerks?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Sorry - wrong again SFB - I am not a rethuglican.

Oh & BTW. You were not aware of the passage of 3 days? Were you on a magical mystery tour? Or do you just have trouble tracking reality?

[-] -2 points by NationalSocialist (-3) from San Francisco, CA 1 year ago

I haven't been here in 3 days sweet cheeks. And if you are stupid enough to think that Red means republican.... Go away bitch.

[-] -2 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

"No one, of course, can produce cast-iron evidence that American munitions have caused the tragedy of Fallujah's children."

That pretty much says it all. One thing we do have proof of is Islamic terrorists are routinely killing Americans and plotting to destroy America. So cry me a river,I don't give a fuck.

[-] 4 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 1 year ago

Your TEEEVEEE is calling you.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 1 year ago

This should have more likes. I laughed my butt off.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 1 year ago

thx - glad you liked it

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5684) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

I agree. A 'like' for PublicCurrency!

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[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Plotting to destroy America? Your own administration has that job description already sown up, prevere.

(Quote)"The research applied a content analysis of newspaper articles appearing in the Okinawa Times following the disclosure of the U.S. Marine Corps’ use of depleted uranium weapons."(unquote) http://wvuscholar.wvu.edu:8881//exlibris/dtl/d3_1/apache_media/L2V4bGlicmlzL2R0bC9kM18xL2FwYWNoZV9tZWRpYS82MDYy.pdf

Depleted uranium is the war crime of the late 20th and early 21st century.

That "tank-busting," "armor-piercing" artillery carried by "A-10 Warthogs" in Iraq and Yugoslavia was made of Depleted Uranium. It leaves radioactive particles in the air, water, soil, and food chain. These tasteless, invisible particles, if ingested and absorbed into your body's tissues, quietly kill.

There are scientists and doctors who believe that at least some of the "Gulf War Syndrome" symptoms suffered by veterans and their offspring were caused by radioactive debris and dust from "tank-busting" Depleted Uranium artillery used during the 1991 Iraq war. Eleven years later, DU shell holes in the vehicles along the "Highway of Death" were 1,000 times more radioactive than background radiation. Shortly after the bombing stopped in Iraq War Round II, it was estimated that four times more Depleted Uranium was used than in the first Gulf War. Scientists around the world sounded an alarm, in part because of the evidence of severe birth defects from prior usage.

The U.S. military website for Aberdeen Proving Grounds describes Depleted Uranium as radioactive, toxic, and of concern for the environment.

Yet the United States government has been allowing the sale of these weapons to NATO and six other countries (according to the Washington Post, and at least 17 countries already have them, the Christian Science Monitor reports)!

http://nucnews.net/2000/du/dulv.htm

Cry yourself a river, dufous. Your heroes don't care about you either.

[-] -1 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs,dweeb.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

So, what you are basically admitting is, that you think it's fine to commit genocide? Right?

[-] -1 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

No,....just demonstrating your absurdity by being absurd.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

What, exactly, is absurd about showing the truth behind the lies?

Name the nations that are using DU ammunition aside from the US and Israel.

Japan has banned the US from using it in any of their test grounds and forced the US gov to clean up the mess after they illegally used it there.

Now, again, demonstrate how I'm being absurd by telling the truth about this genocidal action by the US and NATO forces around the globe.

[-] -1 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

Look,there is always bad shit happening from the fall out of war no matter what country does it. Is war safe? No. Are there after effects that are terrible? Yes,but to demonize and wish for the destruction of the US because of this,IS absurd.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

What you are surmising is, that using depleted uranium in weapons against other nations is "bad shit happening" that nobody could have seen as "bad shit happening". Everybody knows that using DU is applied genocide.

Try and defend that angle.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

nothing doing

unless one means high energy gamma rays radiated from uranium 238

can destroy key codes to genes

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

It's not a new issue. Just because your corporate-owned media won't broach the topic, doesn't mean the rest of the world is in the dark like you. Read on.

SPARKS flew in parliament yesterday as Prime Minister Costas Simitis defended his government's handling of the depleted uranium (DU) crisis, especially regarding precautions taken to protect Greek troops in Kosovo, in response to questions from Left Coalition leader Nikos Constandopolulos and former New Democracy chief Miltiadis Evert.

Although Greece did not participate in the 1999 air strikes against Yugoslavia, Constandopoulos blasted the government for signing on to the campaign, allegedly knowing and concealing the hazards of DU, and depicted Athens as the handmaiden of Western interests. "You all knew. But you were silent... Even at this late date you should say 'Enough manipulation of Europe by the leadership of the US and Nato every time. Europe should undertake with its own policy its responsibility to restore and cure what was struck'," he said.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/du-watch/message/1

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[-] 0 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

you are sick - lots of creeps like you in the land of the free and home of the brave don't you think - tough guys and chicken hawks - done some real fighting have you

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 1 year ago

land of the sheep and the home of the slave . . .

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[-] 2 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

anti american - exactly what is that - i know what anti soviet is, sounds similar. and which part of your america do i hate - well that is a bit strong don't you think - how about want to change, find disgusting or let's hear what mario savio has to say - "There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!" well said no? and you are sick by the way - i could help if you let me!

[-] -2 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

So,you're a foreigner,no? You find America disgusting no? I like that you follow a dead activist. Apparently Mario was a little too "sick of heart" in November 1996 no? Maybe you can peddle your anti-American hateraid to OWS because they will swallow it all no?

Actually I'm quite well and in no need of help from someone that hates America. Thank you but no.

[-] 1 points by flip (4976) 1 year ago

so what exactly does it mean - anti american. i love my country but often hate what my government does in my name! is that hard for your tiny brain to comprehend? it's clear you can't spell but can you answer a question. probably not - too sick? and which part of america are we talking about - the 1%, the military industrial complex that the general warned us about - the corporations or the workers - which part do you hate - come on - own up to it. do you hate ows - is it from france or america? you are right - you are not sick but you are a fool. this is for you- a bit of advice - Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Get with the programme, prevere. Nobody hates the United States of America. The ninety-nine percent of Americans that have been dispossessed of their own country by the greed and lack of foresight of the capitalist horders and warmongers, are fighting back to regain a foothold in their own lands.

Are you with them, or are you against them?

Do you want your country to be your own again?

[-] -2 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

"Do you want your country to be your own again?"

Yeah I sure do,and come Nov. when Obama loses to Romney, the battle to reclaim this country for the Constitution loving patriotic Americans will begin in earnest. Just maybe this will be the last time we will be under the thumb of a Dictator like Obama. Hopefully Americans (even the dumbasses) will have learned a lesson about trusting Progressive,Leftist's to Govern the country,NEVER AGAIN!!

Actually,I'm with the "programme" I realize there are people who hate the US and are plotting to kill and destroy Americans everyday,that's something you must be in denial about.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I used to think it would be great to be as easily pleased as you are, prevere.

Hopefully your education will improve your knowledge base in the future.

[-] -1 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

You used to think?

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Aaah, you're fishing. Good to see prevere...

[-] 1 points by shooz (26719) 1 year ago

Be sure and send him many boxes of DU ammo for Christmas.

Just make sure they're in cardboard boxes........:)

[-] -1 points by prevere (-56) 1 year ago

No,not really but you took the bait. I'll just throw you back anyway.

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2367) from Boulder City, NV 1 year ago

Were you born mentally deficient or did you practice?

Why on earth would you come to an OWS site and spout such ridiculous garbage. Troll.

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