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Forum Post: time to get behind a Presidential candidate?

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 29, 2011, 12:18 p.m. EST by voiceitsoon (0)
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I believe that the OWS movement could cultivate some positive change in America and around the world, but I also think it is time to get behind a Presidential candidate that best represents the ideals and views of the average American. Someone who truely wants to make America a better place. I've looked at all the candidates and honestly I don't think any of them are that good... But one stands out, Buddy Roemer. I like what he is trying to do. He is not accepting more than $100 in donation from any one person or group. He's going up against the big money candidates with hardly anything... I suggest we back him. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Fundraisingandt http://www.buddyroemer.com/



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[-] 2 points by XaiverBuchsIV (508) 12 years ago

The "average" American wants Medicare for all, Roemer wants tort reform. The "average" American wants the rich to pay more taxes, Roemer wants them to pay a lot less than they do now.

Roemer does not represent the "average" American, he represents the some old corproate GOP ideals that fudgepacked us into the mess we're in.

[-] 2 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Buddy Roemer on the Issues:

  • Reforming Taxes: top tax rate of 8.5%

  • Balancing the Budget: modify social security and Medicare by slowly raising the eligibility age by one month each year for 24 years

  • Fighting Special Interests: prohibition of registered lobbyists participating in fundraisers

  • Creating Jobs: restore pride in the "Made in America" label, so that consumers have the choice of buying products that help employ their neighbors and encouraging American businesses to buy American

  • Strengthening National Defense: repatriate the production of military equipment

  • Energy: supports additional drilling, expansion of natural gas and nuclear power

  • Reforming Health Care: individuals must be allowed to buy insurance policies across state lines

Go to his website and read it for yourself.

[-] 0 points by roscoesdad27 (106) from Aberdeen, MD 12 years ago

What's he say about the vicious war on drugs terror scam?



[-] 0 points by XaiverBuchsIV (508) 12 years ago

Paul's website makes no mention of ending the war on drugs. In fact, it does not mention ending any wars at all. He is just another phony anti-tax free-market shill for the corporations.

[-] 0 points by economicsguy (16) 12 years ago

Dr. Paul frequently talks about ending the war on drugs. He also says he would bring home all the troops on his first day in office - and not just from Iraq/Afghanistan, but everywhere in the world. We have 900 bases in 130 countries. We've been in Korea since Dr. Paul was in high school. It makes no sense. He is a TRUE peace candidate.

Also he has no special interest money backing him. They don't bother because they know he can't be bought. That's why he's been in congress since the 70's, ran for president in '88, yet nobody heard of him until the Internet allowed his message to get out for free.

[-] 1 points by FreedomIsFree (340) 12 years ago

Everyone has heard the talking points. You'll be voted down into nowhere land because, for some reason, Dr. Paul seems to be public enemy number one around here.

[-] 2 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 12 years ago

The worst trap that OWS could encounter at this very very early stage in its development would be that of electoral politics, any electoral politics.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

I'm all good on Buddy Roemer, thanks. I wish he was a major contender. He isn't.He doesn't represent my ideals.

[-] 0 points by Peretyatkov (241) from город Пенза, Пензенская область 12 years ago

To everyone, who is going for president!

I do not will ask you :- "On whose side are you?". What would it to understand, enough to ask the following: Nardialog like the idea?

The lack of response = response negative.

[-] 0 points by mandodod (144) 12 years ago

Like tossing a vote in the trash can.

[-] 0 points by karenpoore (902) 12 years ago

Good, I am just not voting! Our economy is going down the toilet any way you look at it. God help us all in the US and the world ...

[-] 1 points by mandodod (144) 12 years ago

Just had a great Black Friday and Cyber Monday. Home sales are on the way back. Most people in America working. Even during the 1929 crash most Americans were working. When homes get down to a very affordable price, folks will start buying again and the US will come back. Homes drive the economy. A new boom is coming!! Look on the bright side! Have fun!

[-] 0 points by karenpoore (902) 12 years ago

I certainly do hope so, but sorry this is exactly the mindset that got us in this mess. Sure it will come back, but not to what you think. I keep reading the following websites: www.democracynow.org/ theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/economic-recovery www.truthdig.com/ www.guardian.co.uk/uk www.naomiklein.org/main

[-] -1 points by jaimes (86) 12 years ago

Obama supports ows, don't you support him?

[-] -1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

I have hear him speak many times - he is excellent.
But unless we rewrite our constitution in the next 10 months, there will be only TWO choices - here's the story on one of them-

From Lawrence Odonnell -
When is the last time some of you Democratic voters stood up and cheered for the president? Well, tonight's your night. He has mastered the politics, the policy and the strategy of budget legislation better than any president in history. and he proved that tonight. with his brilliant veto threat after the supercommittee announced the inevitable that it could not agree on future budget cuts. thereby, setting the clock ticking on the automatic budget cuts that have been written into law in the event the supercommittee failed.

To quote him: "Already some in congress are trying to undo these automatic spending cuts. My message to them is simple. No. I will veto any effort to get rid of those automatic spending cuts, domestic and defense spending. there will be no easy off ramps on this one."
Did you watch that? how surprised did the president look? that the supercommittee failed to reach an agreement? not a bit surprised.

That's right. this committee was designed to fail and the president knew it. An equal number of members, from each party, an equal number of members from the house and the senate. no tie breaking representative from the administration involved. every republican member of the supercommittee had signed a pledge not to raise taxes in any way. every democratic member wanted to raise taxes in some way. failure was built into that design. Cuts that will go into effect automatically will hit defense heavily. something many democrats have long wanted to do but it will protect medicare, medicaid and social security. the most important programs created by and constantly defended by democrats. but most importantly, none of the automatic cuts triggered by the supercommittee's failure will take place until the january 1st that occurs after the next presidential and congressional election. the deal that created the supercommittee in the alternative automatic cuts was part of a package which included immediate spending cuts reported at $900 billion. In order to raise the debt ceiling. something that had previously never been a difficult or controversial thing to do because congress always knew that failure to raise the debt ceiling was not an option. at the outset of the debt ceiling saga, the president's announced position was that he would like to raise the debt ceiling in one simple, one-sentence bill with nothing attached to it. in other words, the president was in favor of exactly zero, zero in deficit reduction in order to raise the debt ceiling. His stagecraft at various times involved dramatic exits. first by eric cantor, then by jon kyl, then by john boehner. as the president's offer on deficit reduction skyrocketed to a peak of $4 trillion. an offer that horrified some democrats afraid of the spending cuts but was, of course, reject rejected by house republicans as the president knew it would be because it included tax increases on the top tax bracket. the president then feigned disappointment over the final boehner walkout, but the president knew that to voters, he appeared to be the reasonable man looking for a solution while he was actually painting republicans into the absurdest corner of standing for nothing but low taxes for the rich. and so the supercommittee will cut no spending. the automatic cuts will not take place until the beginning of the next presidential term which should leave you wondering exactly how much spending will be cut during the president's first term in exchanged for raising the debt ceiling?

THE ANSWER IS $21 billion.

that's right. not $4 trillion. not $900 billion. not some giant, horrible, onerous amount of spending cuts. just $21 billion. That was the price. that is what the president actually did to increase the debt ceiling. so the president will go into his re- election campaign having enacted no cuts that are painful to his party or his political base. with the image of a president who has worked harder than any other only to be stymied by an ins transgent republican congress that pledged its soul to a republican anti-tax lobbyist grover.
Is our president the best budget strategist in presidential history?

Mitch, you said, "the single most important thing we want to achieve is for the president to be a one-term president." and so the president's mastery of the do-nothing congress moves us ever closer to fiscal sanity, as long as congress continues to do nothing. because if congress continues to do absolutely nothing, on january 1st, 2013, after the next presidential and congressional election, all income tax rates will increase to the clinton income tax rates which this country fondly remembers as the tax structure that delivered the golden decade of the 1990s. and on that same day, $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts will go into effect landing largely on defense and leaving untouched democrats' most important programs. and fiscal sanity will be restored in washington. thanks to a do-nothing congress being outsmarted by a president who mastered the budget.

OR you could vote for mr. flip or mr. flop or
mr. adulterer or mr. lobbyist or Mr. 999 or Mr. Executioner

Don't be a koch sucking tea party stooge!

[-] -1 points by karenpoore (902) 12 years ago

Signed up on his website to follow him ...