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Forum Post: Thousands freed from prison

Posted 2 months ago on July 20, 2019, 10:07 a.m. EST by BrentWeirick81 (-87)
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"3,100 federal offenders being released starting Friday as part of a sweeping criminal-justice overhaul that President Trump signed into law last year"

Told you that Trump is for the average man. You academics can just jump off.



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[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

''U.S. Prisons are Concentration Camps'', by Margaret Kimberley:

"Trump is" NOT "for the average man" & US prison conditions are some of the worst in the developed world! Furthermore, U$A has less than 5% of the world's population but 25%+ of all Global Prisoners! Finally the Private Prison Industrial Complex has its hooks into USG - like Big Pharma & The US MIC!

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22974) 2 months ago

US gov't orders first federal executions since 2003


Backwards we go. Barbarian! Not only are prisons concentration camps, they are now going back to being death camps.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

USA has <5% of Global Population but has 25%+ of the global prison population & the USG has been captured by a Prison Industrial Complex. In the light of this .. State Sanctioned Murder ... very often of people of color who are only afforded a cursory defense, is a shocking truth but NOT a surprise! + FYI:

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22974) 1 month ago

Private prisons = lavish returns for investors.


Can greed get any more immoral than that? Yes, dumb question, but my god, it's so immoral, makes my head spin.

It's psychopathic to want to get rich through harming others yet we see it again and again.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

''Corporations have privatized almost every part of the public prison system. Now, PE firms are swooping in, seeking lavish returns for investors.

''Today, a handful of privately held companies dominate the correctional-services market, many with troubling records of price gouging some of the poorest families and violating the human rights of prisoners. But the problem doesn’t end there. These companies are often controlled by private-equity firms, which through financial alchemy transform the prison-industrial complex into lavish returns for pensions, endowments, and charitable foundations. And, as successive administrations have ramped up immigration enforcement, they’ve also squeezed money out of immigrant detention.

''The https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/ published its first major story on privatized prison health care in 2000, and abuses by that industry have been confirmed by subsequent media reports and lawsuits.

''In 1833, two years before Alexis de Tocqueville published Democracy in America, he helped write a lesser-known study, On the Penitentiary System in the United States and Its Application in France. The report was generally damning (“the prisons…offer the spectacle of the most complete despotism”), and Tocqueville noted America’s penchant for inviting private profit-making into public prisons. Contractors who exploited the prisoners for labor also profited from selling them essential items.

''Divestment activists will have their work cut out for them. Mass incarceration isn’t just an ugly societal outgrowth that can be lopped off; the excision of these industries would reverberate in unexpected ways throughout the national economy, affecting not just financial firms like HIG Capital but also pensioners from Ohio to Orange County.

''When I mentioned this to Alex Friedmann, he shrugged off the collateral damage. “You know,” he said, “slavery had a lot of economic benefits. A lot of people owned slaves and produced goods, and a lot of ordinary people benefited from those goods, and so on. But nobody today would say, ‘Well, we should have just reformed slavery, improved slavery, reduced it to an acceptable level.’ There is no acceptable level. And that’s my position on profiting off incarceration: There is no acceptable level. It’s inherently morally and ethically wrong.”

The above is excerpted from your simply EXCELLENT LINK [ https://www.thenation.com/article/prison-privatization-private-equity-hig/ ] I've read a lot on this subject & your link blew me away. In reply & in exhaustion, I post this link:

fiat lux et fiat justitia!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22974) 1 week ago

Sanders will abolish for profit prisons.


"Any system that continues to keep human beings behind bars and in prison beds as a revenue stream is a system that must be drastically overhauled. Private prisons have a greater interest in filling the pockets of their shareholders by perpetuating imprisonment than they do in spending money to rehabilitate and educate.

Financial motives have corrupted our justice system. Perverse incentives fuel the unnecessary caging of our fellow human beings at every step. Along with the private prison industry, these incentives range from our money bail system exploiting and jailing the poor while it frees the rich, to police officers being rewarded based on number of arrests, to prosecutors getting promoted for securing convictions and harsh prison sentences, to billions in federal grants going to states and cities running on autopilot to drive more arrests, convictions, and prison sentences.

There are many ways we must go forward to fix our criminal justice system: abolishing cash bail and civil asset forfeiture, ending the school-to-prison pipeline, and making it easier for formerly incarcerated people to reintegrate into society, for starters. But we absolutely must end the existence of the private for-profit prison industry." - Bernie Sanders

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 days ago

Again .. ''Financial motives have corrupted our justice system. Perverse incentives fuel the unnecessary caging of our fellow human beings at every step. Along with the private prison industry, these incentives range from our money bail system exploiting and jailing the poor while it frees the rich, to police officers being rewarded based on number of arrests ... to prosecutors getting promoted for securing convictions and harsh prison sentences ... to billions in federal grants going to states and cities running on autopilot to drive more arrests, convictions, and prison sentences.'' - because it bears repeating! Also fyi - note ...

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22974) 4 days ago

Norway's successful prison system could teach USA some lessons.


Norway's incarceration rate is just 75 per 100,000 people, compared to 707 people for every 100,000 people in the US.

On top of that, when criminals in Norway leave prison, they stay out. It has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world at 20%. The US has one of the highest: 76.6% of prisoners are re-arrested within five years.

Norway "relies on a concept called "restorative justice," which aims to repair the harm caused by crime rather than punish people. This system focuses on rehabilitating prisoners."

Hence, AOC's speaking about "abolishing prisons."

From truthout:

"What we might call the classic definition of prison abolition comes from Critical Resistance, a grassroots organization founded by Angela Davis, Ruth Wilson Gilmore and the late Rose Braz in the 1990s. Their definition targets a “prison-industrial complex” and summarizes abolition as “a political vision with the goal of eliminating imprisonment, policing, and surveillance and creating lasting alternatives to punishment and imprisonment.”

So, this is quite wonderful that we have a Congresswoman even willing to broach the subject. Perhaps we can get moving on this as we change our society to an ever more "well-being" focused one as these other nations, like New Zealand and Norway have done. It is possible.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

''What is the Prison Industrial Complex?''

How a nation treats its prisoners is a yardstick with which to judge its true level of civilization ... maybe? Punitive or Restorative? Progressive Rehabilitation OR Reactionary Incarceration? The choices society makes surely reflect its underlying ethos. Norway & New Zealand show better way to a USA that is 5% of Global Population yet has 25% of the Global Prison Population! Then there is Capital Punishment & the whole issue about the lack of effective legal representation available for the poor! Finally FYI, see... this link https://incarceratedworkers.org/campaigns/prison-strike-2018 for info re.Resisting U$A's P.I.C.!

errare humanum est ...

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 1 week ago

We should lock up all of the child kidnappers and terrorists. They are easily identifiable by using my Mom's criterion of their having downward-pointing nostrils. I used her criterion while I was roaming as a kid around my "birthplace of the wooden gods" shantytown and our many square miles of "backyard playground" beyond it. I've never been kidnapped or terrorized. It worked!

I frankly can't understand why our Afghan and Iraq wars could drag on for so long because we really only needed to shoot dead all of those people whose nostrils were pointing downwards so that their nostrils point sideways. In yet another c0untry, turkeys are planning to flock in to peck at the debris to be left behind by the DT-ed P. americana.

It is not necessary to succeed in order to persevere. As long as there is a margin of 
hope, however narrow, we have no choice but to base all our actions on that margin. 
America and Russia have one interest in common which may override all their other 
interests: to be able to live with the bomb without getting into an all-out war that neither 
of them wants.
As quoted in "Some Szilardisms on War, Fame, Peace", LIFE‎ magazine, Vol. 51, no. 9 (1 
September 1961), p. 79

obtained from the wikiquote article about a former student of Albert Einstein's who had probably convinced Einstein to seek asylum in the U.S.A. and thereby spared him from the Nazis' { death camps perhaps? } Einstein subsequently succeeded in becoming a refugee in the U.S.A.

It's why I don't need an AK to shoot at the legs of the asylum seekers. Just imagine Albert Einstein, Enrico Fermi, John von Neumann, Leó Szilárd, Edward Teller, Theodore von Kármán, etc. being shot dead, crippled, or even worse driven to work on the Red Team against us. All of them became refugees in the U.S.A. (a modern-day lunatic [ saner than insane, though old-fashioned ] asylum [ of creativity, idiocy { a "moron" may just be a flattery,} or both? ] ! ) Many of them form the nuclei of the intellectual, scientific, and technological foundation for the U.S. postwar defense supremacy.

Peace and prosperity are what we seek but if wars of all kinds stand in the way, so be it. "Eternal wars" are never "eternal." Bring them on! The earlier they start, the earlier they may be concluded. Martin Luther's Reformation took many centuries of wars to sort out the boundaries. Why should we think that we are any luckier than our forebears, now that Globalism's Greed has already broken down the walls of the infectious-disease-isolation ward?

When the British Navy had imposed a blockade on the North American colonies' harbors in reaction to the tit-for-tat involving primarily various tea-mercantile-trade-and-tax-related issues, the thirteen colonies in America sent delegates to confer with each other about how the colonies could or should respond, they being Christians instinctively agreed to say a prayer first to God before tackling the mightiest empire in existence. There they got stuck immediately because they were of different denominations and accustomed to saying different prayers. Eventually, even the radicals compromised and agreed to a prayer. If they couldn't even solve the problem of saying a common prayer, as the mighty British Empire crushed the colonies one by one, it would surely hang all of them as rebels separately (partly due to they and their colonies not hanging together in [the guerilla-warfare and collusion-with-France] resistance.) Here was the religious breakthrough of the U.S.A. which eventually became embodied in our First Amendment prohibiting the Congress from making the government religious.

The U.S. is the most religious country in the World and largely Christian but it's a pre-gallow-mutated materialistic ("God's work on Earth must truly be our own!") form of Christianity. Does it matter which particular prayer one has muttered before one takes on the fight against the mightiest empire in existence? Not really to our forebears, because saying the prayer needed to be gotten over with quickly, so out of that experience uniting thirteen then-colonies/later-states into one, came our motto: "Out-of-Many, One," "E PLURIBUS UNUM," etched on every coin and printed on every federal reserve note. The First Amendment created the accommodation space which much later worked well { despite Judaism not being a Christian denomination } with granting refuge to the Jewish scientists and intellectuals fleeing Nazism, amongst many others of different religious faiths. Christianity may be two thousands years old but U.S. Constitution-compliant Christianity is very modern, less than two-and-a-half centuries old.

Hmm, I've started wondering whether a bidét soaking could count as a baptism or a conversion to Christianity. Is there any church which takes bidét baptisms as being valid? How thoroughly must one be soaked for it to become valid? All of these can be useful information for the younger generation.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 months ago

It's still a long way for the U.S. to catch up to Red China ( primarily Xinjiang but Hong Kong's peace may not last for long; Taiwan seems to be the best place { most linguistically and culturally compatible but risking being "reunified;" in tough times it's still better to be living with someone with guns should a shoot-out eventually happen; join the Taiwan military forces to learn fighting skills and become useful one day; WPTO will need frontline troops } to garrison Hongkongers on the frontline to retake the mainland; still remember 國民黨《反攻大陸》? every place that cannot retain its young people dies ) and the DPRK (apologize and pay the judgment penalty for the wrongful death of Auto Warmbeer as the slaveowner has much money from crushed-skull enterprises.) We have already had free-range death camps for a long while, though, because we still don't require exit visas of those people leaving the U.S. or its territories.

The BBC brings up the uncomfortable truths about human rights violations of the DPRK. It's a reason why the U.K. is a global superpower. Right is Might.

Cavemen may not understand how soft power can be stronger than the left-right-circumspect SR-71-monitored (Washington state can't be left behind for long without some radioactive tap water) Bam-Bam hard power (whose sa-usage leaves many deaths, injuries, much heartbreak, and destruction behind, actually being the result of a total power failure.) The U.K, Frau бабушка, has much soft power which has even trapped the overly aggressive most massive land carnivore of all !!!

I remember how as a three-year-old kid how greatly I enjoyed watching my Big Brother's pants being pulled down and having his plumpy butts spanked by Mom. With his attitude of "guilty until proven innocent" and "I really don't give a shit about the innocence of others," he "won BIG" and ¿BIGGER? butts because I, his little brother, had to return the girl next door's iridescent slipper. Hahaha!

Mom tried to beat a shit out of him. Even she failed.. butt... post pacem asinae!

[-] 0 points by BrentWeirick81 (-87) 2 months ago

Better than your man Obama. The average man is being protected. You guys just want your power back.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2386) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 months ago

Still kissing tRUMP's rump, ---

I'll give you it's a lot bigger ..."Better than your man Obama"... but you get no points from me for kissing anyone's ass.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

Still kissing tRUMP's rump, as U imagine that U live in a democracy whereas it's actually a demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy, huh?! HowTF d'U think Obummer Obomber, the Oblahblah is somehow my "man"?!! U are either a liar, or a vulgar propagandist, or can't think outside The Duopoly Delusion, if U think that the U$A's "average man is being protected" by tRUMP, The Repugnant GOP OR The Democraps!!! See the links below, address the points in my first reply &/or try to go get a clue ...

et temet nosce!