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Forum Post: Thoughts on Rocky Anderson?

Posted 2 years ago on March 7, 2012, 6:55 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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Would you vote for him, if your only option was write in?

Thoughts?

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[-] 2 points by Frog12 (0) 2 years ago

Romney has to far of a lead already for anyone else to catch up.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

NO ONE LIKES ROMNEY. Not even his own base. He's a total loser, and its a shame that the R is too weak to demand anything better.

Same goes for the Dems, and their war mongering maniac of a president.

[-] 2 points by jaktober (286) from Sonoma, CA 2 years ago

Assuming Romney is the Nominee: http://www.fox19.com/story/17106888/reality-check-what-do-the-real-republircan-delegate-numbers-look-like

In the case of Obama vs. Romney though, you have Stein, Johnson and Anderson depending on your state.

If Romney is the Nominee I'll vote for Stein. I'm interested in seeing what Anderson can put together, and I wish Johnson the best of luck.

For now though, I'm still helping Paul pull an upset (brokered convention or not). Best chance at getting an Anti-War, Anti-Corporate Welfare, Anti-FED, Anti-Drug War, Pro-Peace and Liberty (Anti-PATRIOT Act, Anti-NDAA, Anti-WTO, etc.) candidate into office.

Stein, Anderson, and Johnson are great, and I hope the Greens and Libertarians get the 5% this year, and Anderson helps build a third-party in hopes it'll have an "out of the gate" momentum that gets some candidates into Congress.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Americans Elect, turns our to be yet another Koch brothers Neolibe(R)tarian front group.

Alec just wasn't enough for them.

Is nothing too low for these motherfuckers?

I'm beginning to think that libe(R)tarians are lot like any other fundamentalist group that says it's OK to lie and use subterfuge on the nonbelievers.......

http://ouroregon.org/sockeye/blog/truth-behind-americans-elect

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/23/1009887/--Americans-Elect-Third-Party-Movement-Is-it-a-Trick-Sure-Smells-Like-One

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12012

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

I'm well aware of who helped to start it. Regardless, you have Rocky running in 2nd place, one of the most liberal guys out there, and with the "draft" you have Bernie Sanders running 3rd. I'm pretty sure you are a Bernie Sanders fan, right?

I

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Well aware, yet you never mentioned it.

Closet Koch fan, you are.

[-] -2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

you get dumber by the day, shooz....

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

It only appears that way, because I become more aware of your libe(R)tarian partisanship.

The simple fact that you have NO idea what's going on in your own State, yet you think everyone should believe what you say goes on Nationally.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

.........wow....

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Yepperz........WOW alright.

No go ahead and rinse, lather and repeat.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

your love of little sound bites and sayings goes right along with your trust of the corporate parties.....and the media....and just about anything else you have been led to believe over the course of your life. There is no reaching you, you will continue on your path for a long time further. Just remember, if we end up changing things, you cannot take credit for it, because you have spent your time endorsing, with no accountability, the duopoly. And I accept it. I just hope that when something real DOES come along, you give it a your support and finally leave the criminals behind.

Good luck to you.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

check out buddy roemer


Long-shot presidential candidate Buddy Roemer will take his support for Occupy Wall Street to the next level Tuesday when he joins a demonstration in New York. Continue Reading

Roemer has been the lone Republican to praise Occupy Wall Street as an expression of public anger against what he calls a "government ... controlled by special interest money." It's an unlikely strategy for a GOP presidential candidate, but it may be the populist Roemer's best shot at having a media moment in the 2012 race.

Here's how Roemer announced his plans for this week on Twitter:

I am concerned and outraged, as are many, at Wall Street greed. I will be joining Occupy Wall Street NYC Tuesday to see it firsthand. #ows

My decision to join Occupy Wall Street is to put an end to #OWS bashing by fellow GOP candidates. I want to hear the stories of protestors.

It's about time Americans rose up against institutional corruption. I want to stand by them. Wall Street must be held accountable. #ows #p2

I'm a Harvard economist and biz school grad. I have never seen our economy or political system this broken or corrupt. Enough is enough. #p2

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

What kind of things was he saying about those issues prior to OWS? He could just be extremely clever.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

his strongest position is getting money out of politics - I've heard him many times and I am impressed - but we all should do our own research

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Oh yeah. That's all I was hoping for was a quick synopsis. Didn't mean to come off as too lazy to check on my own.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (22337) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Oooo this could be ugly. I will hope and pray that everyone remains polite - but - I mean - come-on. Guts/foolish/bait (?)

[-] 1 points by sato (148) 2 years ago

When was the last time an independent won? Was it 1800s or was it 1700s? That's all I can say about this guy. In our country people only choose from 2 parties.

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 2 years ago

Depends if you're thinking long term or short term I think. Short term its probably better to avoid the "Mittens" but in the long term it really isn't going to accomplish anything.

"...take all your overgrown infants away somewhere and build them a home a little place of their own the fletcher memorial home for incurable tyrants and kings

...did they expect us to treat them with any respect they can polish their medals and sharpen their smiles, and amuse themselves playing games for a while..."

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

I remember in the beginning this place was great for intelligent debate.

Its really crapped the bed since then...

[-] 1 points by Puerile (12) 2 years ago

No, I think trolling makes things much more productive... not.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

I realize this isnt the usual attacking post that a lot of you love, but thoughts on him and this choice would be very appreciated.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (5952) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I think he should be trying to defeat Republicans so we can win this thing.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I found something on Anderson. The entire "third party movement" is being funded by a secret donor.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/rocky_anderson_is_crashing_the_third_party_20120425/

And the plot thickens.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Thicken it with some facts. How much did Anderson or his Super Pac receive? The reports I have read says he accepts no more than $100 per contributor.

Let's compare it to how much the person you support has raised and how much went to his Super Pac?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Read the article, it's a secret.

[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

The money from "Americans Select" goes to put their names on the ballot, and fund the website.

Nothing goes to the candidates or their pacs.

Your statement "The entire "third party movement" is being funded by a secret donor." has no support.

http://www.americanselect.org/who-we-are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_Elect

http://www.americanselect.org/news/12-2011/faq-americans-elects-board-committees-funding-security-process-and-more

http://ouroregon.org/sockeye/blog/americans-elect-truth-behind-corporate-scheme-swipe-2012-election

http://irregulartimes.com/americanselectwatch.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ackerman

Where does your candidates money come from and go to?

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Let's hope nobody on the left will be fooled by this bullshit, anyway.

Man, they are relentless with the multitudinous ways they would like to divide us, aren't they? And so I keep hammering it home - don't be decieved by this crap!

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

The secret donor that funds them all, is very curious.

Don't you just love secrets.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

LOL! I think we pretty much know!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Are we betting on Karl, or the Kochs?

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Flip a coin. It doesn't matter.

[-] 1 points by forjustice (178) from Kearney, NE 2 years ago

http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/527cmtedetail_donors.php?ein=272285014&cycle=2010

"If Peter Ackerman follows through on his promise to run Americans Elect in the spirit of a civil resistance campaign as he understands it, then the gist of his 2001 book A Force More Powerful suggests a conceptual hierarchy of operation conducted from the top levels of leadership on down, with wise visionary leaders at the top, surrounded by capable experts in the middle, and followers at the bottom who are constrained to act within limits strategically set by the Chairman (Peter Ackerman himself). The events leading up to the nomination of an Americans Elect Presidential ticket should be expected to be carefully orchestrated so that followers of various sorts will play the parts set out for them. We’ll be playing the music of democracy, but it will all be laid out according to Peter Ackerman’s score."

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/01/18/understand-americans-elect-peter-ackerman-theory-of-social-movement-organization/

A lot more on AE http://irregulartimes.com/?s=americans+elect

Rocky does not fit their mold and AE would never let him on their ballot. If you want to dig up dirt on. Rocky's decision with AE was unfortunate. Rocky is not AE. AE is not Rocky. His platform has not changed and will not. Take 30 minutes to look up his platform and/or read his wiki entry. You've posted in this thread thinking him a republican. You ought to learn about the person your talking about or not talk about them.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I don't dislike Rocky. I would like to know a lot more about him though, and see him on a National stage.

As far as the funding? Ackerman is just on of few disclosing donations.

Sad as it is, it still takes a lot of money to get noticed in the political "process"

[-] 1 points by forjustice (178) from Kearney, NE 2 years ago

AE did not start all the 3rd Parties. Discontent with the existing parties did. AE is hijacking the 3rd party movement. I do think it is a mistake for some of these candidates to get involved. Rocky should of started working on his campaign and ballot access much earlier than he did. He ended up with AE being the only option to get on the ballot in some very important states, as they have ballot access in states that have deadlines past. A failure in for sight and planning that gives his campaign little chance. I hope he gives in a real go next time around. This miss step should not nullify a lifetime of being a true progressive.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I've long lamented the lack of access to the system given to 3rd parties.

You have Reagan to than for that.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Americans Elect funded by the wealthy elite, with a centrist agenda. So much for Anderson's credibility, IMO. Great link, shooz.

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[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (22337) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Secret Secret oo oo tell me tell me...I can keep a secret...like Bush and pals were responsible for the perfect shit storm......see? tell me tell me......

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Tune in next week for pt. II of the Karl Rove political circus. Brought to you by your friends at Koch Industries, where planning for your future is way down the list.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (22337) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Did you know that GWB smoked weed when he was in college and the National Guard?...........See I can keep a secret......you can tell me . . . can't cha?........I mean I should not have to wait ......Right?

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[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

RockyAnderson

JillStein

RonPaul

BuddyRoemer

OWS

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

On that list?

The only one not likely to be caucusing with (R)epelican'ts, is Jill Stein.

Keep that in mind, and for sure cross off Mr. P.

He's a Dominionist.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Rocky is about as progressive as they get. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Anderson

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Isn't he an ex (R)epelican't? That always makes me wonder how he's going to act when the chips are down, and who he's going to caucus with. ( it's still a 2 party system)

I think it would GREAT if more independents could heard in open debates, but you have Reagan to thank for making that unlikely.

It figures, he repealed something called the Fairness Act.

[-] 1 points by forjustice (178) from Kearney, NE 2 years ago

Roemer was the Republican. Rocky left the Dems because he sees them as are more and more serving the same corporate interests as the Republicans.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I know the propaganda well, but the more important question, is who is the secret donor?

[-] 0 points by ARod1993 (2420) 2 years ago

My first priority is making sure that Romney and/or Santorum do not wind up in the Oval Office. I'd probably vote Anderson if I had the luxury of doing so, but as far as I'm concerned I don't.