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Forum Post: This movement isn't serious until somebody dies.

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 12, 2011, 2:21 a.m. EST by realcarrera (53)
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Ever heard of Martin Luther King? The man died. Malcolm X? The man died. Che Guevara? The man died. JFK? The man died. Jesus?...

They all died in order for their movement to be taken seriously. We need a leader and this leader has to be ready to die for this cause.

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[-] 3 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

I heard gwbush is looking for a job... ;)

[-] 3 points by Zombie5565 (5) from Ridgecrest, CA 12 years ago

We should all be willing to lay our lives down to build a better world for our children... Think how corrupt a world they will live in. They can build an army if robots to do there slave work for them, im sure they can afford it, We should all just Stop.... Stop Consuming, Stop Obeying, Start Living life

[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 12 years ago

Maybe that is a way to an end, start up barter communities in areas abandoned by the financial crisis. I hear parts of vegas are full of empty houses that noone wants, Detroit too.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

You don't have to die to be taken seriously, lol.

[-] 1 points by realcarrera (53) 12 years ago

I respectfully disagree but yes you do. Ghandi was ready to die in order to be taken seriously and he stopped a war. What's that? A gimmick?

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 12 years ago

Event #1 was the pepper spray, which got attention of the internet. Event #2 was 700 arrested on BK bridge, which got the attention of the world.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

Being willing to die and dying are two different things.

[-] 1 points by realcarrera (53) 12 years ago

You're correct. The former is what I mean.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 12 years ago

OK, I'm with you there.

[-] 1 points by L0tech (79) 12 years ago

Dr. King was pretty well respected and "taken seriously" for quite a while before his death. To varying degrees, so were the rest. Troll on, trolla.

[-] 1 points by realcarrera (53) 12 years ago

Does this sound off topic to you?

[-] 1 points by L0tech (79) 12 years ago

Hey man, don't blame me, it's your idiotic thread.

[-] 1 points by realcarrera (53) 12 years ago

So what have all these things from history meant to you? Have they all been idiotic movements? Idiotic causes? Idiotic leaders?

[-] 1 points by L0tech (79) 12 years ago

No... what is idiotic is the idea that to "get taken seriously" and enact any change we need

a) a leader

b) a dead leader

[-] 1 points by Frankie (733) 12 years ago

2 words...

Self immolation.

[-] 1 points by imrational (527) 12 years ago

Fine. I'll start my hunger strike next week.

[-] 1 points by realcarrera (53) 12 years ago

Too peaceful man. Too peaceful. If you're in the crowd right now stand up and proclaim yourself the leader. If you're at home then you're not at the right place.

[-] -1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

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