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Forum Post: This Movement is NOT About Tents!

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 28, 2011, 1:48 p.m. EST by NOMORECORPORATEBULLIES (1)
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The initial impact of this movement has been diluted, and the public's understanding of it's purpose has been misdirected at a level that will shut down it's effectiveness altogether, if we all do not consciously work together to change things. We all knew it would be an uphill battle to acquire media coverage that effectively portrayed our efforts. We knew the police would do anything in their power to stop it. We knew that the 1% would utilize their money and connections to lash out against it.


All of the comments/ complaints about the movement "not having a real agenda" are partially well founded - almost all of the media coverage, and actions Occupy have taken are related to whether we have the right to pitch a tent, or occupy centralized locations. Additionally, Occupy has allowed it's media image to be distorted to that of the "dirty hippy" cliche'. This MUST be corrected, immediately, or Occupy is doomed to failure. That would be a great tragedy to the future of our country.

I am in support of the ideas behind Occupy, but NOT their approach. The 1% who have hijacked the power structures in our country have the obvious advantage - the only way Occupy stands a chance against the powers that be is to learn about strategy and logistics as much as possible, and to draw more people towards it's efforts by helping the public understand that this movement is for ALL of us, not just dirty hippies and whiners.

A few suggestions to other members of Occupy:

    • The initial success of Occupy was due to effective use of social networking - focus on organizing this way again, in a concorted effort to create flash mobs. Flash mobs are MUCH more effective (and less vulnerable) than being sitting ducks in a park.
    • Occupying one location is death - it makes us vulnerable to police, and creates issues that misdirect the focus of our efforts. Instead of focusing on one location, Occupy should choose different locations - Wells Fargo one day, Citibank the next, ect. OR - do several locations in a city at a time, to dilute the efforts of the police. If it is well thought out enough, Occupy could be gone before the police brutality begins. Offering press conferences about WHY each location was chosen would squelch the sentiments about lack of agenda.
    • Occupy should have volunteers that work in shifts, rather 24/7. There would be no tent issue this way, and would be safer for the volunteers. It would help them to retain an effective presence, without forcing them to endure dangerous winter conditions long term. Warm houses for volunteers who are off shift should be organized.

I sincerely hope some of you take these suggestions, refine them, and implement them. With all my heart, I hope that Occupy can re-assert itself with the same power it began. Our freedoms, our futures, and that of our children depends on it.



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[-] 2 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

The locations and encampments are symbols. But only symbols.

They represent, to me, the intensity of the determination of many Americans who want redress for specific grievances that we have with the government and those who we see have corrupted our government.

The encampments are losing their edge as symbols. This is diluting the intensity of the movement. Diverting resources and time from making new statements and amplifying the statements already made with the encampments.

Flash actions are a great tactic for amplifying a message. Using social media to coordinate and organize is the secret power that can bring ever greater intensity to the message.

In the end there needs to be greater focus on using these mediums to convey ever more specific messages about ending corporate corruption of America's democratic system of government. Specific messages focusing on real solutions that we can generate mass interest behind. Reinstating Glass-Steagall, a Constitutional Amendment for repealing the Citizen's United decision and attacking at the state level the myriad ways that the Democrats and Republicans collude to keep anyone and everyone off the ballot who does not tow their corrupt line.

[-] 1 points by beamerbikeclub (414) 12 years ago

I know, right!

Yeah. no. totally.

Still... gosh darn it...! The symbolic import of occupying public space is essential.

Can we still have GA's every day???

and please please please don't poop on the drum circles. we need music and dancing too. what's a revolution without 'em??

[-] 1 points by WachtAmRhine (10) from New York City, NY 12 years ago

What did happen to the tents of the Indians who inhabited Manhattan?

Who occupied Manna-hatta? Our Lord gave manna to the people, not the banksters.



[-] 0 points by 5HYDROXYTRYPTAMINE (6) from Beloit, WI 12 years ago

How about we all secretly rent apartments in the same apartment building until we have all or most of the apartments in the building "occupied" and then it becomes our base, and we kidnap our slumlord, keep him or her in a cage, and manage everything ourselves from then on. Free apartment building, and no need for silly tents any more :)

We can even install electronic cop detectors and dodge and/or use diversionary tacticks when the cops come


[-] -3 points by doctorlove (-10) 12 years ago

You are crazy. The movement was designed for low life scum bag hippies who don't want to get a job. They think they are part of woodstock; what a disgrace.

[-] 2 points by WeMustStandTogether (106) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

The lobby-paid corrupt inept crony-run bankrupt congress is shameful. I understand you. I love woodstock and dirty old hippies. Peace.