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Forum Post: THIS is Freedom:

Posted 12 years ago on March 3, 2012, 12:37 p.m. EST by struggleforfreedom80 (6584)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8J_UKKa-c

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[-] 1 points by timirninja (263) 12 years ago

this is called libertraism?

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[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 12 years ago

It called Libertarian Socialism or Left-libertarianism. back in the 1800s a society like this was often described as libertarian, but then the ultra-rightwingers highjacked the word resulting in it having another meaning now.

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[-] 1 points by timirninja (263) 12 years ago

i always thought that "Libertarian" is made up word which comes from liberal and retard LOL

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[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

I think that in the workplace this is a valid and immediate aim. Also I think in State government. These are very good Ideas. On the level of national government, I think it would need to be implemented slowly and might not be completely achieveable, but it is a great goal.

The question is, how do we get there? It is this question of the process of achieveing the highest level of democracy, and therefore freedom, that has absorbed me recently.

We must clearly distinguish between means and ends. I have openly advocated working hard for a Democratic Majority in the next election, so that those in power will be more receptive to our aims, and more cooperative in helping us to achieve them.

There is no question that powerful forces stand in the way of achieving these ends, and firstly we must deal with the nuts and bolts of how to get from where we are, to a more utopian level of participatory democracy.

I agree completely that people function much better and are far happier in a state of cooperation than competition, but how do we get from here to there? Good thinking has gone into this idea, but our focus now must on how to implement it.

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[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 12 years ago

Also, feel free to contribute with your thoughts here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/where-do-we-go-from-here-030312/

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[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 12 years ago

"I think it would need to be implemented slowly and might not be completely achieveable, but it is a great goal."

I agree. Some of these things are long term goals.

"The question is, how do we get there?"

My suggestion: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1321101669_the_transition_phase_.html

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[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

Thanks. I think the whole question of cooperation as a model for society, instead of competition is a great vision of progress. Most people are miserable under top down, authoritatian systems. And thanks for the link!

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[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 12 years ago

Yes, agreed.

No problem. Read all the articles and videos here: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/

yours s. sff

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