Forum Post: This is freaky
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 29, 2011, 8:22 p.m. EST by Brandon37
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I find it really disturbing how many cemetaries and bodies are being found. In addition to the car, it makes me cringe to think of people using these lakes for recreation and water supplies. Shows how very important it is to protect this vital resource. This country will spend huge money on oil pipelines, but not water pipelines. We will refine oil, but wont invest in desalinization. Hope the folks who want to deregulate, privatize supply, and destroy the EPA are all be happy to drink from a lake with a car containing a decomposing body, not to mention the poisons from industry.
There is a place close to where I grew up that is supposed to have hundreds of bodies beneath the water. The road around the lake has a turn called dead man's curve. The area is a popular party spot for college and high school kids and the drunk driving is beyond ridiculous. All the time there was someone getting killed going around this corner or driving off the dam. About ten years ago they pulled out a car that had a woman and her baby daughter that had been missing since 1977.
I can only imagine what they would find if they drained the lake.
Here is a wreck at the spot I am talking about http://media.ksbitv.com/images/LakeCar.jpg
Here is a pic of an old pickup truck in the lake http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/Biggsly/photobucket-27950-1315230497958.jpg
Here is the dam that people have driven off of http://bridgehunter.com/photos/12/55/125562-M.jpg
Here is dead man's curve http://astro4.ast.vill.edu/66/51621101.jpg
The lake http://www.lakelubbers.com/img/photos/1055-m.jpg
Your EPA is bought out. Only prosecutes the little people. Allows 1% to run rampant.
The EPA was slashed and burned by Bush.
Didn't I just tell you this?
Getting forgetful in old age?
Don't go all Ronnie Reagan on us now.
Im 31 and was a campaign manager for Obama.
Some of us have opened our eyes.
Others are still locked int eh L vs R diversions.....
You will be where I am after you study all this long enough...
He's been getting smeared since he took office.
Go help him manage again. Any republican will be infinitely worse.
That or go help Jill.
NO shit he's been gettin smeared.... Hes bombing 7 different countries He extended the Bush tax cuts He kept Gitmo Hes gave the banks a handout He gave the insurance companies a hand out
He is a FRAUD, and I would rather declare I have no pride or self respect than to fall for that BS again.
Im not playing their games, Ive done enough studying to see what they have going on behind the scenes.
You keep playing it, and be proud of co-opting the corruption.
Im out!
and I have to go to sleep, goodnight..
I was never a campaign manager.
Obama never said he was a dove.
That was the same kind of things that went on under Bush.
Go help Jill.
So buy it back, then. It seems like the problem that people like you have with regulatory agencies is that they're deliberately kept toothless by a symbiotic relationship with the very industries that they belong staying on top of. I agree with you; that's a serious problem. However, the solution to that is to sever the relationship, not to destroy the regulatory agencies. Slap cooldown periods on people attempting to use the revolving door; if you want to go from the board of Exxon Mobil to the EPA that's fine by me, but expect to be out of work for two decades while you sit on the sidelines as required by law. Same if you want to go the other way. At the same time, start actively recruiting environmental science/ecology and chemical engineering students to the EPA, nuclear engineering students to the IAEA, etc, medical and Pharm. D. students to the FDA, etc. so that Uncle Sam has a source of talent and knowledge independent of the private sector.
I want to destroy the current ones and rebuild with the stuff you just laid out.
Im not some 100% anti-reg nutcase.
OK, cool. I wasn't sure where you stood, and half the people I've talked to on here that start with "Your (insert regulatory agency here) is bought out" finish with "And that's why I support the efforts of (insert Tea Partier's name here) to wipe out the aforementioned agency!" I'm really glad to find someone else on here who wants to talk real solutions.
Unfortunately, this place is more eduacted than the 99% out there...
I said a while ago we are fighting the powers of the 1%, and the stupidity of the 99% :)
Agreed; there's so much misinformation out there about what government really is supposed to be doing and what its current role in the economy really is that whole chunks of the country equate functional regulatory agencies with Orwell's Ministry of Plenty and dysfunctional ones with more proof that government is inherently pitiful and inept at best and outright sinister at worst.
So like many other parts of the gov it needs to be isolated from corporate interests... Dont throw the baby out with the bath water...
When things get this corrupted, they must be removed with entirely new things put int their place.
So what are ideas?
See my reply to Hchc above and the link I pasted below for a look at what I'd do to the current regulatory structure.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/everyone-keeps-saying-that-regulatory-agencies-hav/
Read it... I like the long cooling off period. Five years is probably enough, though with as fast as most things are changing and advancing.
This goes back to the fact that, despite what some folks want to believe, government pay does not measure up to industry pay and benefits (this is probably changing now). Government needs to be able to compete for the best people, research needs to be supported by a entity with no stake in outcome, and we need to be able to afford to go to school.
Hi Brandon37, Interesting. Thank you for link. Best Regards, Nevada
what is disturbing to me is that it is obviously an affect of global warming, and nobody in TExass seems to mind.
A suicide is a result of global warming? A lake being built over a cemetery is now global warming?
try the extensive drought throughout the southwest.
Oh, OK. Yes I agree that the climate is changing. It has been throughout earth's history. Grab a farmers almanac. It shows all the trends.
man this place is overrun with repelicans this evening.
fuckers must be nervous.
I think I like it!
; D
What? I thought you were about to give me a lecture on how we have caused the SW to dry up.
why? you fuckers are wearing the prints right off my fingers
The entire south is experiencing a drought.
that is what the global warming climate models all seemed to indicate 15? years ago - U.S. grain production moves north.
A lot of it has to do with La Nina.
and la nina is a part of the cycle that transfers heat globally. duh
Yes, and when El Nino takes effect, the pacific will heat up as the Atlantic cools. This will bring rain totals up in the southwest. BTW, Texas is not the true southwest. Most of Texas and Oklahoma is effected by the same weather patterns of the SE and Gulf states.
It isnt that folks dont mind, but that they dont want to believe people have anything to do with it because then they would have to change the way they live. People dont like change, typically, and some are very fearful of it.
Notable, though, is that cemetaries from the late 1800's were under water. They didnt get buried under water, so the lake level was obviously higher now than then. I was wondering if this was due to daming or maybe building up around the lakes so the natural water run off was changed.