Forum Post: This is about corporatism
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 4, 2011, 10:16 p.m. EST by Tomis
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And me we must understand where its roots are...
...and support those who are ready to fight it.
Corporatism is just a fancy word for Corruption. Our system is now bought openly and legally since Citizens United. The velvet gloves are off its iron-fisted rule now by the plutocracy.
to get serious requires a few things they don't have. like chat admins who aren't ego serving propaganda tools, a wiki, 1001 sub forums, an actual game plan, a straight up political platform... you know.. basic organizational things sane people do BEFORE protesting.. like figure out a diplomacy and logic centered metaprocess to give their chatadmins so that they don't really just drive out even more people than the trolls. Adminatrolla. trollaAdmin. Whats the difference to somebody whos got the truth facing a propaganda tool abusing admin powers to push their agenda? how can you prevent such a thing? Metaprocess. did i mention metaprocess? and science diplomacy science psychology science sociology and all those textbooks to read B4 protesting?
you can't have capitalism without a free(SLAVE) market. but you can have a free market without capitalism. And thats strangely the only way it CAN work.
Marketing 101 was fascinating. I admit thats a lot less than a bachelors but its sure more than enough to see whats really going on given the other things I know. Capitalism is not the problem since it does not exist. corporate oligarchy is the problem. capitalism has never been tried. I am a democracy guy. in order for real democracy to function a free market system is required. Thats not capitalism. thats a free market system. there is a subtle difference there which most people would miss. I will again repeat. Neither capitalism nor marxism nor communism nor socialism has ever existed. All of those governments were oligarchy pretending to be something as a con scam. Telling that simple truth gets one banned out of the Chat by either a capitalist or a socialist whos pissed you just said their pet ideology isn't real. It isn't. anybody who thinks that it is is accidentally playing for team corporate oligarchy as a tool. the ONLY system worth talking about is DEMOCRACY. how democracy HANDLES a FREE MARKET system is dynamic and interesting and NOT capitalism.
o. yes. no. yes. what? making change is not reliant on changing the money system one tenth as much as it is on changing the informational ecology. Going to a gold standard as an idea is a proof of ignorance, not a solution. Really the end game is we evolve out of money. To do that we evolve first new currencies and new economic strategies. this leads to economic singularity in about 50 years. If everyone is a millionaire how much you get depends on exactly the material valuation of that money. Which is to say that by the time money becomes obsolete everyone will live like the current millionaire. Tangible items to other tangible items? the real economy is about ideas, change the ideas and everything changes. the problem with the tangible economy is it does not change; its a static reality. you can't make a meaningful gold standard with only enough gold to represent on millionth of the economy. You can make a purely imaginal money system work; but it has to be subject to moral and ethical laws. This is about pinning down those moral and ethical laws and implementing them in new currencies; not trying to imagine a control freak impossible non solution because of the simplicity with which you go about thinking over the problem.
once again. there has never been a socialist or capitalist economy. in all instances such nations were oligarchies. using a mask and a con scam and telling their dupes and pwns that they were something other than oligarchy. the big hump to get over is that the USA oligarchy and the Soviet oligarchy are in on this lie against the rest of us TOGETHER. Neither of them was ever anything other than an oligarchy. both claimed some other system in order to have US fight over the ideals of THAT system while they secretly shafted us all playing a completely different game.
I see that Marketing 101 really paid off for you, you are a seller. Too bad you didn't learn anything from Economics 101 or more importantly History 101. Put down the crack pipe and focus on taking a stab at reality. Where to start? You have no clue and are out there waiting for the next great conspiracy to take hold of your life. What's the thing about the slave market in capitalism? The real economy is about ideas, really? Remember, a democracy is the next socio-economic step before totalitarianism. Check the history books, it's pretty consistent.
yeah, sorry, i did learn plenty from those subjects and economics i studied to the bachelors level. Religious World History to the phd level. I don;t do crack and you have only stupid ad homs. A stab at the reality? lol. I have every clue and every solution, and your just a troll. I am not promoting conspiracies i am telling the truth and promoting real solutions. "A democracy is the next socioeconomic system before totalitarianism?" says a programmed zombot totalitarian pack psychology troll...In fact democracy is the only thing thats not oligarchy. pay attention. History books? there has never been a democracy to look at so its not a historic question, its a systems problem in sociology space.
yeah, sorry, i did learn plenty from those subjects and economics i studied to the bachelors level. Religious World History to the phd level. I don;t do crack and you have only stupid ad homs. A stab at the reality? lol. I have every clue and every solution, and your just a troll. I am not promoting conspiracies i am telling the truth and promoting real solutions. "A democracy is the next socioeconomic system before totalitarianism?" says a programmed zombot totalitarian pack psychology troll...In fact democracy is the only thing thats not oligarchy. pay attention. History books? there has never been a democracy to look at so its not a historic question, its a systems problem in sociology space.