Forum Post: This is a violent protest! How dare you push ladies and children to the ground!
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 7:24 a.m. EST by thomasmiller
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I'd expect more of this...People who have nothing to lose or who feel they are oppressed are not always going to behave in predictable ways. You have the Tea Party on one side that doesn't want to lose what it has and you have some people in OWS with nothing and nothing to lose...
People must realize that if you are working class...You are on the firing lines..That includes small business owners, doctors..you name it...Bottom line, for all us Americans, whether you are in the OWS or Tea Party or whatever...The elites in banking and multinational corporations with help from their minions in CONgress have caused this situation to occur by systematically extracting wealth from our economy...
Anyone can figure out that by having multiple wars and providing things like Medicare Part D and continuing the same policies and even more spending in Obama's Administration..and having tax cuts for ten years ..that we'd end up here. It's a just set up to destroy all those FDR New Deal programs and perhaps the middle class of this country..That's all.
Social Security and Medicare? Republicans and some Democrats are on board with destroying these programs that many people like me have been paying into for years...Why? because they already stole the money and used it for something else and they can't actually admit to the thievery..Can they? Poof...It's gone....
Both the OWS and Tea Party should be fighting against corruption in government, unfair taxation, and excessive government spending..The people who were involved in Wall Street's 2008 extraction of wealth..Need to be held accountable and ill gotten gains confiscated.
We also need to get a hold of that often overlooked stealth agency called the Federal Reserve which enables most of this behavior to occur.
Message from Bill Still:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bstill3#p/a/u/0/UzA0UPRz_o4
The Secret of OZ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haZZos12nN0&feature=player_embedded#!
There's allot to be done and I'm afraid we are beyond band-aids and tweaks...
God Bless You All.
There is no video of who pushed those teabagger ladies to the ground, the security where pushing everyone around violently. Could it have been them? We only see two women getting up, not how they fell.
No children are push, or even on the ground in the video.
We do see how the police let a driver leave the scene of a vehicular assault on two people. (did you get the plate numbers? please post it.) The video actually make the teabaggers look aggressive, hateful and awful, thanks for posting it here!
Ted Nugent is on record in saying that if a police officer came to take his guns he would kill them! Our side is for peace.
I guess the right forgot about Gabby Giffords.
The ugly truth. America's wealth is STILL being concentrated. When the rich get too rich, the poor get poorer. These latest figures prove it. AGAIN.
According to the Social Security Administration, 50 percent of U.S. workers made less than $26,364 in 2010. In addition, those making less than $200,000, or 98 percent of Americans, saw their earnings fall by $4.5 billion collectively.
The sobering numbers were a far cry from what was going on for the richest one percent of Americans.
The incomes of the top one percent of the wage scale in the U.S. rose in 2010; and their collective wage earnings jumped by $120 billion. In addition, those earning at least $1 million a year in wages, which is roughly 93,000 Americans, reported payroll income jumped 22 percent from 2009. Overall, the economy has shed 5.2 million jobs since the start of the Great Recession in 2007. It’s the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression in the 1930’s.
Another word about the first Great Depression. It really was a perfect storm. Caused almost entirely by greed. First, there was unprecedented economic growth. There was a massive building spree. There was a growing sense of optimism and materialism. There was a growing obsession for celebrities. The American people became spoiled, foolish, naive, brainwashed, and love-sick. They were bombarded with ads for one product or service after another. Encouraged to spend all of their money as if it were going out of style. Obscene profits were hoarded at the top. In 1928, the rich were already way ahead. Still, they were given huge tax breaks. All of this represented a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Executives, entrepreneurs, developers, celebrities, and share holders. By 1929, America's wealthiest 1 percent had accumulated 44 percent of all United States wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes were left to share the rest. When the lower majority finally ran low on money to spend, profits declined and the stock market crashed.
Of course, the rich threw a fit and started cutting jobs. They would stop at nothing to maintain their disgusting profit margins and ill-gotten obscene levels of wealth as long as possible. The small business owners did what they felt necessary to survive. They cut more jobs. The losses were felt primarily by the little guy. This created a domino effect. The middle class shrunk drastically and the lower class expanded. With less wealth in reserve and active circulation, banks failed by the hundreds. More jobs were cut. Unemployment reached 25% in 1933. The worst year of the Great Depression. Those who were employed had to settle for much lower wages. Millions went cold and hungry. The recovery involved a massive infusion of new currency, a World War, and higher taxes on the rich. With so many men in the service, so many women on the production line, and those higher taxes to help pay for it, some US wealth was gradually transferred back down to the majority. This redistribution of wealth continued until the mid seventies. By 1976, the richest 1 percent held less than 20 percent. The lower majority held the rest. This was the recovery. A partial redistribution of wealth.
Then it began to concentrate all over again. Here we are 35 years later. The richest one percent now own 40 percent of all US wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes are sharing the rest. This is true even after taxes, welfare, financial aid, and charity. It is the underlying cause. No redistribution. No recovery.
The government won't step in and do what's necessary. Not this time. It's up to us. Support small business more and big business less. Support the little guy more and the big guy less. It's tricky but not impossible.
No redistribution. No recovery.
Those of you who agree on these major issues are welcome to summarize this post, copy it, link to it, save it, show a friend, or spread the word in any fashion. Most major cities have daily call-in talk radio shows. You can reach thousands of people at once. They should know the ugly truth. Be sure to quote the figures which prove that America's wealth is still being concentrated. I don't care who takes the credit. We are up against a tiny but very powerful minority who have more influence on the masses than any other group in history. They have the means to reach millions at once with outrageous political and commercial propaganda. Those of us who speak the ugly truth must work incredibly hard just to be heard.
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Be on the lookout for commercial brainwash plots on TV. They are written into nearly every scene of nearly every show. Most cater to network sponsors, coorporate partners, and parent companies. Especially commercial health care. In particular, high profit pharmaceuticals and excessive medical testing. These plugs are countless, calculated, and VERY well written. They have commercial brainwashing down to a science. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Get off the couch and take care of your own body the way nature intended. There is no substitute. If you must see a doctor, then DEMAND that he/she give you more than 5 minutes of their undivided attention. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Be prepared with written questions about your condition and get them answered one at a time. If they refuse, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe excessive medical testing, then ask if they personally own the equipment or if they are paid a commission for each test. If they find nothing new or signifigant, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe a pharmaceutical, then ask for a generic. Better yet, concider a change in lifestyle or simple tolerance. If they still recommend the name brand pharmaceutical, then ask about any financial ties or conflict of interest. If they get offended, then dispute their unreasonable charges and consider a new doctor. If you must drug away your sniffles, worries, jitters, aches, and pains, then at least do your homework. Be aware of the possible side-effects ahead of time. Don't be surprised to find yourself back a week or two later feeling worse. In which case, you should dispute their unreasonable charges. If you are diagnosed with another medical condition, then ask your doctor what he/she has done to rule out those possible side-effects. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't let any greedy doctor treat you like a number, make you wait an hour, or rush you out of their office. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't fall for this CRAP that doctors have no choice but to over-book their time or over-charge their patients because of a high overhead. ITS A LIE. YOUR DOCTOR IS MOST LIKELY A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. The same goes for their bogus claim to over-test so many of their patients because they are afraid of missing something and being sued for it. THAT IS ANOTHER FLAT-OUT LIE. Afterall, if this were true, then it would only explain some of the unnecessary testing. NOT THE OBSCENE CHARGES. It also wouldn't explain their own financial ties directly to the manufacturers of said testing equipment. Thats right. Most doctors hold stock in the very same companies that produce that equipment. Its another conflict of interest. So don't fall for their CRAP. Demand their undivided attention and respect. Afterall, they took an oath. If you have the opportunity before being admitted, then check the record of your hospital. Check to see if they have been investigated or sued for providing unnecessary treatment, excessive medical testing, or fraudulent billing. Dozens have already been caught doing so. Do all of the above regardless of your coverage. Don't force your employer to cover the obscene and often fraudulent charges of a corrupt health care industry. By doing so, you make the problem worse. Keep your guard up when watching ANY talk show. These people are not your friends. They are not your advocates. They are paid actors hired to get your attention and your money. Some of them are also executive producers (Oprah Winfrey, Ellen Degeneres, and Dr Phil.). Nearly every word, smile, and stupid joke is rehearsed ahead of time. Including those which take place so often during what appear to be 'technical oversights' (Today Show. Even their stage hands are mixed in behind the scenes so that you can hear them laugh at every stupid joke.). Its all fake. Its all calculated. These people are not trying to make the world a happy place. They are trying to entertain you only because their marketing studies have shown that you are more likely to drop your guard and support their sponsors. Nearly every segment is about marketing some over-priced product or service. They will use any excuse to plug a gadget, fashion item, travel destonation, credit card, university, drug, medical test, surgical procedure, movie, TV show, book, magazine, song, website, ect. Almost all of it over-priced. Almost all of it resulting in higher profits for their sponsors, partners, and parent companies. DON'T FALL FOR IT.
Big business is fine on occasion depending on their product, ethics, employment, profit margins, and profit sharing. Do your homework. If they are screwing up our economy or society, then don't pay them for it. If you want to support any legitimate charity, then do so directly. Never support any celebrity foundation. Don't be fooled by the sale of baby photos, lies about percentage of income donated, or praise from other well known public figures. Celebrity foundations are CRAP. They spend most of their funding on PR campaigns, exotic travel, and super high end accomodations for themselves. Thats right. Filthy rich public figures have been jet-setting the world in the name of 'humanity' for years. Riding in personal jets, staying in super-exclusive resorts, and living it up in exotic locations around the world the likes of which most people could never afford even if their lives depended on it. They bring along agents, advisors, publicists, hair, make-up, wardrobe, lighting, and photo crews who are also in it for themselves. They are paid six or seven figures for their part to schedule, manage, document, showcase, praise, and publicize the 'good will' of said public figures and their respective industries. Every possible expense is passed of as 'incidental' or 'necessary' and billed right back to some 'foundation' named after said public figure and/or respective industry. Every possible tax deduction is claimed. Which are incredibly vague and diverse thanks to our sold-out government. Deals are cut with major networks who agree to praise the 'good will' or 'humanitarian' effort of said public figures and plug their latest commercial project around the same time. Others from around the world pick up the story and save these industries billions in advertising every year. Resulting in higher profits and paychecks for the 1% club. When its all said and done more wealth is transfered from poor to rich. NOT the other way around. So don't support any charity named after a living celebrity. Don't be fooled or inspired by any photo you see in a magazine, any clip on TV, any affiliation, or any short term short sighted progress report. Instead, go to Charitywatch.org and look up a top rated charity to support your favorite cause. Its all there. For example: 'Habitat For Humanity' is a top rated charity. They have been for many years. They operate with a low overhead, volunteer workforce, and donated materials. They have built homes for the less fortunate in nearly every city nationwide. Including New Orleans. They do so as we speak. No similar effort can match their progress hour for hour or dollar for dollar. So there is no legitimate reason to support a slower, less efficient effort represented by a filthy rich Hollywood actor who flies in on a personal jet, takes most of the credit, and makes a deal with a major network for plugs just days before the premier of his latest film or DVD release. By doing so, you support not only the inefficient effort, but also the filthy rich actor. Concentrating more wealth and dumbing down our society further in the process. Instead, support 'Habitat For Humanity'. Its not perfect. It is affiliated with some big business. However, it is MUCH more efficient, effective, and less corrupt than 'Make It Right'. The difference is profound. In general, support the little guy as much as possible and the big guy as little as possible.
If you choose to protest, be cool. Don't break any laws and treat those cops with some basic respect. Most of them are alright. Don't give the anti-OWS infiltrating pigs any ammo to use against us.
Spamming of your own, off topic agenda is a bannable offense. Keep your own rhetoric in the appropriate forum entries
It's a 3 part entry. At the end, I respectfully request that fellow OWSers treat the cops with respect. That's what you want isn't it? Fewer bad apples? Peaceful protest? Or is your only intention to discredit the entire movement.
Fellow OWSers. Our cause is just. In fact, it's vital. Just be cool. Those cops are only trying to keep order. They are not the enemy.
Stay On target. Off topic posts, low content posts, worthless posts, bumping, etc, will be moderated and removed. Repeat posting of the same off topic posts and spamming of links that have nothing to do with the subject at hand (case in point the Dylan bullshit) will be banned outright. Similarly posters who constantly post off-topic nonsense are straddling the line very close to a ban.
This is from the moderating policies post.
My entries are all in support of the movement. The cause in general. Yours are not.
What I'm saying is stop spamming your (admittedly) 3 year old posts, especially under forum topic that have nothing to do with your content. Most posts I look in, no matter what their focus, is filled with your cut and pasted "reports". I don't even read them when I see them anymore. Again, doing that is bannable. Actually respond instead of blindly slapping all that up, especially where it doesn't belong.
But all of your entries are intended to discredit OWS. All of them. You don't support the movement. Your only intention is to discredit it entirely. Therefore, the answer is 'no'. I will continue to post on your pages as I see fit.
I'm not asking you to not post, just to follow the rules. Again, actually participating in a discussion is much more useful than cutting and pasting volumes of off topic material.
That's not entirely true.
While there are aspects I don't support, and I feel the focus is misplaced, with a good revamping something could still be made from this movement.
IF you really have read all my posts, and I doubt that, you'll see I'm all about fairness and following the rules. YOU are not in line with OWS when you violate their forum policies.
Then create a new page acknowledging the valid concerns of OWS regarding Wall Street, the obscene concentration of wealth, or greed in general. If you tell us to blame only the government, you're a fraud.
Just because I don't agree with all of your posts doesn't make me a fraud. You don't have all the right answers. None of us do. I can say that what I do say on here is at least true. Some of the conspiracy theory stuff you've posted can't really boast that claim (and postingconsipracy theory is another violation of the moderator policies, but I digress). Wealth is going to get concentrated. Always. The issue is the influence of that wealth on our governmental processes which in turn lead to all these other problems. The corporations get the freedoms they have from our government. Cut the flow from the corporations to our officials and legislators and many of the pieces will fall into place. A civilian protest have no authority or even notice from an entity like Walk Street, but we are voters for our governmental officials.
As I expected. Blame the government.
Next.
I can tell you are a professional blogger. Faced with an actual conversation that you can't debate, you change focus and try to belittle your opponent. Talk it out. Have actual, timely debate. No, throwing another of your three year old blog posts won't impress me and I likely won't read it, but good can come out of discussion.
I did debate it. I have many times. I have acknowledged plenty of blame to go around. Including some for us. Your only cause is to blame the government and thereby, minimize scrutiny for Wall Street and the richest one percent. That makes you a fraud.
And that stance proves you to be close minded and unfilling to admit fault. Scrutiny of wall street gets you what? Something else to chant about? A new poster? It does nothing to further the cause of actually correcting the problem. But you are close minded to anything but. You wouldn't admit the focus of the movement needed shifting if the leaders themselves told you so. But we are done you and I. From this point on the only mention of your name will be to the moderators when you violate policy.
You're the one telling us to blame the government exclusively and I'm the one who is closed minded? What a joke.
Read this: The most profitable industries in the world (energy, healthcare, finance) have been given billions in government handouts and tax breaks. Meanwhile, they keep raising charges causing hardship for millions. With all those massive handouts, tax breaks, and obscene charges, profits rise to record high levels. Millions in bonuses are paid to the executives. With record high profits, record high dividends are paid. 40% of all dividends in the United States are paid to the richest one percent. All of this causes a gradual concentration of wealth and income. This results in a net loss for the lower majority who find it more and more difficult to cover the record high cost of living, which again, is directly proportional to record high profits for the rich. As more and more people struggle to make ends meet, more and more financial aid becomes necessary. Most of which goes right back to the health care industry through Medicare, Medicaid, and a very expensive prescription drug plan. This increases government spending. This has been happening for 30 years now. During the same time, tax rates have been lowered drastically for the richest one percent. Especially those who profit from investments. These people pay only 15 percent on capital gains income. As even more wealth concentrates, the lower majority find it more difficult to sustain there share of the consumer driven economy. Demand drops as more and more people go broke. Layoffs results. Unemployment rises. This results in less revenue and more government debt.
Massive subsidies and tax breaks for Wall Street, massive tax breaks for the super rich, heavy concentration of wealth, record high charges along with record high profits and record high cost of living, more hardship for the lower majority, more government spending in the form of financial aid to compensate, more concentration of wealth, less demand, layoffs and unemployment. All of this results in slower economy and less tax revenue. At the same time more and more financial aid becomes necessary. It's a horrible downward cycle which gradually pushes the national debt higher and higher. The other big factors are the wars in the Middle East.
This post is not intended to excuse those who sit on the couch collecting welfare, make no attempt to find work, or squease out kids they can't provide for.
Here is a list of the top ten companies that not only paid no taxes but got huge corporate welfare from we the people.
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.
2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.
3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the IRS.
4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.
5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last year.
6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.
7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.
8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.
9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.
10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11 billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years was just 1.1 percent.
That's crazy how the camera keeps cutting to the aftermath. Almost like it either didn't catch the things you and the people in the video claim or that they never happened or were grossly exaggerated. I guess this is one of those instances where faith and hate go hand in hand.
wow! stay classy ows!
What needs to happen is education on Non-Violence. These people are acting this way because they're confused and frustrated. They see anyone in a suit as an enemy, because that is what they are.
We need to teach them, not suppress them.
I heard pepper spray works well
very interesting tape - watch it - it is not what you think.
after a few minutes , there is a scene of a woman on the ground - could have been pushed, could have tripped - no one who saw it made charges of assault to the police who were there - no one arrested for this "assault????" witnessed by dozens of people?
then a car hits and rolls over one or two protesters. Witnesses demand police arrest the man in the car that they have stopped - they do not arrest him. No arrest!
Add it up - OWS violence - none here in this video.
Exactly.
If anyone had pushed those women, these people would have mobbed them, grabbed them and anyway the police were right there.
These right wing media people are some dishonest bastards. I put nothing past them when it comes to creating the narrative that they want people to swallow
Those people were surrounded by a fucking mob. Please see a doctor about your Cranial-Rectal-Inversion.
Why was no one arrested for pushing these women? Why didn't the video catch the "surrounding by a fucking mob"?
I hope you expressed similar revulsion for the screaming Tea Party protestors at the health care town halls.
And these wonderful Fox news watching anti-mosque protestors. So peaceful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoCAbieZj1w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbiS91Ayn6c
Tea Party nut with his own daughter in car, attacks motorist because of bumper sticker, gets arrested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5pdwTQ4xA8
Did you run to the Tea Party blogs to protest these outrages!?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5pdwTQ4xA8
Uh... aren't you kind of conveniently ignoring that it wouldn't have happened at all had they not been there blocking the exits to begin with? Doesn't matter whether someone actually physically "pushed" them or not (and btw, that's the title of this thread not "right wing media"). They very clearly caused the problems that lead to it, they are responsible.
Man up.
I actually don't see them blocking the exits either.
The big guy who came out and pushed the OWS guy with the mic, is the only person I can see who actually had an OWS person anywhere near them.
And what I see there is a guy standing with a mic at the top of the steps, not in front of the doors, and he is doing what most journalists try to do - get close to someone to ask them questions. And the big older guy quite aggressively pushes him out of the way and continues pushing so aggressively that someone else coming out of the event stops him & calms him down.
And the woman screaming about her kids appears to start screaming for no apparent reason, even her companion is pulling her away and I hear someon say she is drunk.
Bullshit. You can go look at any of a bunch of other vids on YouTube including those that were recorded by the "protesters" themselves. They don't deny that they were there and doing so. The fire marshall was the one who initially told them to back away from the doors for that reason. Which they didn't.
Screaming for no appraent reason? They're lucky that wasn't me with my kids or you'd be watching a much more dramatic vid. lol
It's been on the news a bunch here since I'm local and DC cops have stated that they're going to be "more vigilant" with respect to the DC group.
As they say "You'd better check yourself before you wreck yourself..."
Wow. Do as I say instead of as I do huh?
you didn't even watch it ...did ya ... dumb ass
Night sticks for sale! Johnny O's. 1st and West.
mobs of fucking savages
Just OWS showing it's true colors.
Next time an ignorant protester blocks your path, kick them right in balls. Hard as you can. No apologies. No regret
Don't get shoved around. Chavez night sticks! 2 for 5 bucks! One whack with these will send your assailant packing. Comes in Greepeace Green or Artic Icecap white. JohnnyO's. 1st and West.
You got any really kick-ass pepper spray? Or a small gun that fires pumpkins?
I need a pumpkin launcher. Got all kinds of sprays; lice, fleas, chiggers and pepper.
Conceal/carry: that's the answer.
Unfortunately you can't in DC.
There is an interesting correlation between conceal and carry states and less radical loons running rampant.
Texas alows the use of castle doctorine in any cass. In your house, place of business or car
More Truth
Trouble is it's in DC. Notice the lack of occupations in cities/states where the 2nd amendment is respected.
haha. I love this comment because it pretty much reveals how right-wing hatred of freedom of speech/assembly works.
Mind if I post a link to it everywhere??
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I hear you. DC is full of socialists who crave behavior control. They don't get freedom. It's a shame that the seat of government has been perverted.
mobs of fucking savages
those people should not have been pushed
this is not a violent protest
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that sounds like a death threat
Well no, I'm not saying swerve to hit them of anything but if they have decided that the best idea they can come up with is to flash mob moving cars, then it's what shold be expected.
any responsible driver knows the pedestrian has the right of way
to think otherwise is to take unnecessary risk
Right of way, not the right to mob your car. If a croud of people hold you and your car hostage, what would you do?
I'd wait until if was safe to drive
and also,any responsible person knows not to play in the street
especially if they are in a vehicle
lol no, especially if there are cars coming down the street
And if they didn't move?
get out of the car and ask them to allow me through
And Darwin strikes again.....
fear keeps people apart
are our cars not armored tanks?
No, but confronting an angry mob is probably not going to be the greatest for your health. Look, those people on foot tangled with a car and lost. Hopefully they got a good physics lesson out of it.
if there are no side walks
walk facing oncoming traffic
Truth
Protesting is one thing and I'm ok with it. Mobing people and cars is very different
OWS has devolved into lefty thugs socialist mobs, similar to the people in Germany who followed their nationalist socialist party, mindless repetition of slogans and chants.
You mean like your law enforcers and bankers. Oh sorry bankers are not violent?
Like "MY" law enforcers and bankers? WTF?
I am talking about a mob mentality which is easily manipulated by both law enforcement and the banks....
Mobs which do a 'repeat after me' show every five minutes, are likely to end up following someone scary.
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I hope you are not serious and are just trolling, because a large part of the 99% are baby boomers and older people including me!!!!!!!!
MikeyD is obviously a troll.
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This guy is obviously a troll.
If I would have been surrounded by protestors in my car I would have done the exact some thing. I also enjoyed when a protestor was pinning a man between himself and a pillar, then when then gentleman tried to move around the protestor, the protestor screamed' get your hands off me'. Shows the true mentality of the people in this movement.
No, I think it was the gentleman the protester punk kid was shoving that said to get his hands off me. Watch it again. Still trying to be a OWS supporter, but it is getting harder all the time.
Nope, don't think so. Also notice the punk kid who smacks the guy just before too.
Sorry, the video I watched clearly views a gentleman in a suit making the statement. Maybe it was another video.
Not in this one. It starts at about 3:58 into the vid. If you watch you'll see the guy with the mic come up to him and stick it in his face. The old guy grabs his arm to move it out of the way. The kid's hands are never on him so there's no reason for him to say it. Also, his mouth never moves but if you watch closely right as the kid turns his mouth is open. Last, that's not an old guy voice.
Exactly. These idiots think that they can do whatever they want and then they cry when they get what results.