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Forum Post: This One Act Could Change The Planet Overnight!

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 30, 2011, 10:27 p.m. EST by XXAnonymouSXX (455)
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Okay so a lot of people want a list of demands from OWS so they can get a clearer picture of what this movement is all about. If we really are a"movement" then let's start here. How about we "move" into the future. The first and most important thing on this "list" of demands should be the release of new energy and free energy technology. These technologies have been around for years but as soon as the inventor gets ready to go public they are immediately suppressed by mysterious men in black SUV's. This should be our top priority. Not only would this one act bring down the biggest mob on the planet, the energy bandits, it would take a huge financial burden off every working man and woman. Imagine a world where you have limitless energy at little or no cost. Imagine it. It's right here at our fingertips. Let's start flooding Washington will calls and letters demanding the release of this technology. This is where we should start. This is "MOVEMENT"!

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[-] 4 points by MsStacy (1035) 12 years ago

So with all these people across the country and the strong feelings against banks. You feel the best shot at getting something done is to go after an energy source that we can't prove exists, that is hidden by some government/corporate super secret squad of faceless goons?

I was hoping more for some plan to elect people to congress and maybe get some specific laws changed or the better. Silly me, I wanted real change and all I got was some troll conspiracy.

[-] 1 points by Thinkdeer (250) 12 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghhgUmGBjX8

This video depicts an example of nearly free energy, as well as a couple other things that will positively affect humanity for little cost once initial investment is started.

[-] -1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

BTW who do you think owns the big oil companies? Central banking giants. These devices would destroy the current energy industry. Don't take my word for it. Look into it and make an informed decision. Don't just blindly follow status quo. Thank you.

[-] -1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

You really should do some research before making statements like "we can't prove exists." There is plenty of proof on the internet that it does exist and is being suppressed. And no this isn't our "one shot" it is just one way we can start. You probably still believe we are being told the truth by our government. And you call me a troll! Wake up and educate yourself please. We need you.

[-] 2 points by MsStacy (1035) 12 years ago

I'll leave you then to chase after your shadowy men in black and save the world. I don't have the faith needed for the great conspiracies. You need the assistance of a James Bond or perhaps an Austin Powers. I'd prefer to work against the wrongs we can see and actually do something about.

[-] -2 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

How disillusioned are you to think we can't do anything about it. I have a feeling you wont be involved in anything but unconstructive criticism. Thank you.

[-] 2 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 12 years ago

I have read this conspiracy before, and I actually want to believe it. I think it is plausible but the problem is that I don't know it to be true.

Jus because the internet says it does not mean it exists.

If you want to convince me that it exists, show me something I can build myself (that I am actually capable of actually building because I am actually going to do it. Yes I know I will be breaking the law because a patent excludes you from making an protected invention even if it is just for yourself. Nevertheless I will take a risk willingly break that law.)

If you can show me something I can actually build, or better yet build it for me, or even just show me in real life a solution that actually works then I will forfeit what I am doing and take up your cause willingly.

I have my doubts but please prove me wrong. If you can I will pleasantly and happily admit being wrong.

[-] -3 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

The government is keeping this technology secret at the benefit of big oil, natural gas and coal industries. These industries have bought our politicians to do there bidding. This is no secret.

[-] -3 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

This is one example but go on youtube there are hundreds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hPjM9yKgMs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[-] 0 points by Perspective (-243) 12 years ago

And we all know if it's on the internet it must be true.

[-] -2 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Yeah and the MSM telling you that it doesn't exist is a reliable source. So now if its on the internet its a lie unless MSM deems it true. Don't be a sheep perspective. Wake up, educate yourself and don't believe what others tell you. Seek the truth for yourself. Its out there if you look and are willing to see it. We are on the same team here. Look into this before making statements that make you sound ignorant. Please. Thank you.

[-] 2 points by JPB950 (2254) 12 years ago

You're a bit confusing. You can only believe the people that agree with you? Everyone that says this source doesn't exist is lying? Sounds more like a religion then science. You can only believe the other believers.

[-] -2 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Oh jb here you go again with the same old argument of "you can only believe people that agree with you." I welcome disagreements it give us all a chance to open our minds to new ideas. If you read my posts I always encourage people to "educate yourself" and don't believe what others say. Do the research and then make an informed decision. Not one based on what society says is right or wrong. We all see where believing the MSM has gotten us. Thank you.

[-] 1 points by RogerDee (411) from Montclair, NJ 12 years ago

Lacking some of that scientific aptitude? Not familiar with the 2nd law of thermodynamics?

[-] 0 points by Perspective (-243) 12 years ago

Lol quit putting words in my mouth. All I'm saying is you have to take everything with a grain of salt. Doesn't matter what form of media it is. The internet however,being open to all,is full of things that aren't true.In the end honestly all you can trust is your own two eyes and ears seeing or hearing something in person. See you come off very arrogant and condescending with your "educate yourself" and "Look into this before making statements that make you sound ignorant.". Maybe you can't see that but that's how you present yourself. You're right and everyone else is wrong,that's narrow minded at the least. Name calling does your cause no good.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

I apologize if I seem codescending. I assure you I am not arrogant. I am just passionate. Now your putting words in my mouth. I never said I was right. I saiad educate yourself. How else can I make that statement? I don't want anyone to just blindly believe what they hear. I encourage everyone to go and find the truth. That is what I mean by educate. I really don't want to alienate anyone. It is counterproductive. I'm trying to push people to look into this stuff themselves. We are all on the same team here. I didn't call you ignorant either. I said the statement sounds ignorant and I appologize for the misunderstanding. Thank you for allowing me to clarify. Keep talking.

[-] 0 points by Perspective (-243) 12 years ago

No,you said the statement made ME sound ignorant. I don't know how to tell you to say things I only know that how you say them makes it sound like you know all the answers and everyone else doesn't. Just my take.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

That's your opinion. I have made it abundantly clear that this isn't my intention but you insist on believing otherwise. You just changed my mind with your last comment. Now YOU are starting to sound ignorant. You cant even accept me explaining myself. No one else seemed to have a problem with me asking them to educate themselves. I DO NOT KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS. THAT IS WHY I AM HERE ASKING QUESTIONS. DONT BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR. EDUCATE YOURSELF. I think that was quite a clear "perspective".

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

The answer is there is such thing as a source of limitless perfect pollution-less energy. It is science fiction. There are no Men in Black. Only in movies. Unless you can show us this source of magically energy and tell us who are the Men in Black of which you speak, there is no reason to believe any of it. You have the burden of proof, not us.

[-] 1 points by rusj (5) 12 years ago

there is no pollution-less energy? can we consider solar power or wind a pollution-less energy?

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

No. They create pollution. You need to build solar panels and wind machines in factories. Solar panels get used up with time and need to be thrashed, just like wind machines. They also constitute a form of visual pollution, especially wind farms.

[-] 1 points by rusj (5) 12 years ago

but isn't visual pollution better than chemical pollution? like.. destroying Earth from inside out to use one of the most toxic waste Earth offers... oil?

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

I never said it wasn't better, who gave you that idea? Solar power and wind energy are excellent sources of energy and pollute a lot less than using fossil fuels or nuclear energy. The point was that the OP is wrong in thinking that there are perfect forms of energy that do not cause pollution. Every form of energy does. Some more, some less, but they all cause pollution.

[-] 1 points by rusj (5) 12 years ago

currently we are using energy sources that outputs the most pollutants. I think anony is saying.. there are better ways... why aren't we using them or why aren't we making our goverpush for better options? what set you off to compare the ideas to fairies and dragons? is it the men in black part of it?

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

The OP is not talking about solar or wind energy. He's talking about a mysterious form of energy he thinks the Men in Black are hiding from us. He's a conspiracy theorists. As for better forms of energy, there are some interesting ones in development. Wind farms are being used in Canada and US. Solar energy also. However, these forms do not provide enough energy for all our infrastructures. Most of my friends drive hybrid cars electric/fuel. If you want to talk about new sources of energy in a serious way, you should start a new thread. This one is based around a lame conspiracy theory. Read the response our poor OP is getting. There is no mysterious and magical form of energy. There are no Men in Black.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Yeah and we have all seen proof that jesus walked the Earth. And have you seen that proof that God exists yet? Me either.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

I don't believe Jesus nor God exists. Claims that they do suffer from the exact problems that your claims suffer. They have not be proven. You have the burden of proof my friend. If you make the claim that Men in Black exist, you have to proof it. I never claimed that Jesus nor God exists. I'm atheist. I believe science and proof, not people's ramblings at face value.

[-] 2 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

i believe that Jesus was a model of the perfect man for his time. but like all models they get reformatted.

[-] 1 points by CompassioNateBuddha (100) 12 years ago

The fact is that it is very disturbing that we live in a time where conspiracy theories are believable by anyone. Conspiracy theories wouldn't even exist if there was no reason for them. We need a world where our leaders can be fully trusted. A transparent system that takes care of all sentient beings. Why is one life worth less than another. This is an extremely dangerous view. All beings deserve the minimum needs for survival. Who is to say whether or not conspiracy theories are true. The question is why do they exist?

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

"Conspiracy theories wouldn't even exist if there was no reason for them."

Conspiracy theories would not exist if people were educated and understood the scientific method. The problem with conspiracy theories is that the do not follow logic nor the scientific method. They do not explain anything, and only confuse matters further. They see a gap in knowledge and use anything to fill the gap. In the end, it use results in more confusion and more questions. It's a mind disease.

[-] 1 points by CompassioNateBuddha (100) 12 years ago

You are extremely abrasive. Maybe you are the one who needs to get off their "high horse". And after reading your posts it does not seem that respect anyones opinion. You seem lika an ego maniac really. And for that I feel sorry for you. Good day.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

[-] 1 points by CompassioNateBuddha (100) 12 years ago

Yes I understand your stance on this. You have repeated the same things over and over and again in your last comment to me. I agree do not accept what others say. Why are you attacking me though? I said nothing of being a conspiracy theorist. Are you saying that conspiracies do not exist or conspiracy theories?

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

I am not attacking you. I'm saying that unfortunately too many conspiracy theories exist. Conspiracy theories are not scientific. If you want to believe in Men in Black without anyone giving you proof that they exist, that is your choice and I will respect it. There are no attacks here.

I'll remind you that you accused me of being closed minded. I simply explained to you why this is not the case. You can get off your high horse now.

[-] 1 points by CompassioNateBuddha (100) 12 years ago

I appreciate your response. But it seems like you refuse to see any other side than your own. This seems like very close minded thinking. I am sorry for you. Be well brother.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

There is no other side to see. If someone makes an extraordinary claim, they have the burden of proof to provide extraordinary evidence. No such evidence is provided by conspiracy theorists. Being open minded does not mean accepting anything anyone says. That's being gullible. If I claim fairies exist, it's my responsibility to provide you with solid proof. Would it make sense for me to accuse you of being close minded if you said you don't believe in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, or dragons? Of course not. Provide your extraordinary evidence and people will take you seriously. Until then, you will be labeled a mere conspiracy theorist who does not understand how science works.

[-] 0 points by Perspective (-243) 12 years ago

Your words were "Look into this before making statements that make you sound ignorant. " You may not have meant I understand it but that is what you said. I told you that was my take in my last comment and you once again say I sound ignorant. I thought that perspective was clear also but apparently not. Have a better day.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

I sure will. Thank you.

[-] 3 points by yarichin (269) 12 years ago

Tesla was bankrupted, discredited, his office burned, and inventions destroyed by JP MORGAN because he did not want un-metered free energy. He invented AC Current, and the radio transceiver, he also combined the two technologies. Stanley Meyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell Was POISONED after inventing a water powered vehicle and refusing to sell out.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Wow. Thank you. Someone who actually looked into this stuff. Way to go yarichin. These aren't just stories. They are facts.

[-] 3 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

Weird place to start, why bother if you can't do anything for real?

[-] -2 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Wow your optimism is unreal. We can do something about it. Besides its just a suggestion. No one has suggestions but everyone has criticism for the few who do. I don't get it. I thought this was a place for voicing solutions to the problems we face. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe its just a place for angry citizens to tear others down. We need everyone if we are going to succeed. Thank you.

[-] 3 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

I've made suggestions, but it seems like no one wants to actually work at things. You have a national movement, get people to run for congress from any district where you have Occupy people. Work to get them elected, and make changes happen.

Everyone wants to complain and offer magical solutions, it's like they don't know we have a constitution and a way to fix things. If you want real change you need to do real work. If your magical energy thingy exists, you're people elected to congress have a better chance of finding it then people just sitting around making up goofy ideas.

[-] 1 points by MichaelB (128) 12 years ago

I agree with you Jen, we gotta get involved in the politics.

[-] -1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

I assure you it is not "magical". There are a lot of incredibly smart physicists and other scientists that have produced these "magical thingy's" and were forced to stop working on them or else. If these devices are just a mystical farce, then why is the government so intent on keeping them a secret. DO THE RESEARCH. DONT BELIEVE ME. FIND OUT THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF. Thank you.

[-] 2 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

The only things I've ever seen are those scam sales pitches to buy free energy machines, or that water fuel cell. Those don't really work.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Then you might wanna keep looking. Because the ones that really work are being suppressed. Thank you.

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

Waste of time when there are real changes we can work toward. I'll leave you to work on the conspiracy theories.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Some of you are really hopeless. Free energy. That wouldn't be a real change would it. Wake up.

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

Conspiracy theories are impossible to deal with sorry time to move on. There are real things that I can do to make change happen. Bye.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Then stop posting here and move on. Thanks.

[-] 3 points by fuzzyp (302) 12 years ago

You mean like making a perpetual motion machine? Good luck with that one. The MIB that are killing your ideas are the laws of physics.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

earth is a perpetual motion machine, so if we have a modal what's to say we can't learn from it.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

not exactly. start with the energy of the super massive at the center of our galaxy. then add the energy of stars. add to that the radiation of half life from matter.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

so it is a machine that is perpetual up to the point of its half life, when it begins to break down? if this is my understanding of your point, then i'm glad our sun outlives dynasties and empires.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

lol. me too. not to discredit the concept, because zero point energy is mathematically proven and will be realized.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Earth is not a perpetual machine. Its energy comes from the Sun, who itself comes from the Big Bang.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

so it is a machine that is perpetual up to the point of its half life, when it begins to break down? if this is my understanding of your point, then i'm glad our sun outlives dynasties and empires. this understanding makes more sense then my original post and is a reprint, damn spam.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

A perpetual machine is a machine that uses the energy it creates to energize itself and keep going thusly indefinitely. It must thus create more energy than it consumes, or, if it does nothing, at least create as much energy as it consumes. It is a closed system, and it is physically impossible. There is always a loss when energy is transformed to another type of energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

i believe what you are saying when we speak about our solar system, but can you digest the idea that the universe could be a perpetual motion machine.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

It is not. It will either collapse into the Big Crunch, or expand indefinitely until the Big Freeze. A perpetual machine completely violates all known physical laws, there is therefor no reason at this time to believe it is possible. It could only be possible if new scientific discoveries show that it is. Until then, the concept is considered impossible, and to say that it is possible is mere science fiction and conspiracy theory nonsense.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

this is where my view differs, if the sun is hydrogen and stars explode, releasing planetary hydrogen, then new building blocks are created. there may not be enough hydrogen here on earth to create a new star, but if two or three solar systems explode and merge, than new stars are formed, eventually, crowding out the big freeze. and i don't take science fiction to be fact but when science fiction is merged with fact, things change. just pontificating, brother.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

It seems you don't understand basic physics. Every time energy is transformed into a new form, there is a loss of energy; usually through heat. When stars explode and their remnants create new stars, there is less energy than before. Stars become fewer and fewer, and weaker and weaker. It's like dropping a tennis ball. It will bounce after it hits the ground, but each bounce will be smaller and smaller. Learn about the second law of thermo-dynamics.

Your scenario is only possible in a world that does not have the same physical laws as our own. There are no perpetual machines to be made in our universe. If you do not believe this, then you should provide proof by creating one.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

As a scientific concept, the existence of zero-point energy is not controversial although the ability to harness it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

From your article:

"According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of Energy and the military.[14] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three expert witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". "

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Yeah the government would never lie! And if these things are nothing revolutionary and not a threat to the energy bandits. Why ar they so intent on keeping them secret? Anyone have a good explanation for the cover up? I am willing to agree that they don't exist if someone has a good explanation for suppressing something that doesn't work or has no benefit to the population. Anyone?

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

There is no cover up until you have proven there is. You have the burden of proof, and you haven't proved any of your claims. You simply pass off nonsensical conspiracy theory that you found on a dubious conspiracy theory website.

If you don't believe Wikipedia, then don't link to it! This excerpt comes from the link you gave us.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

How do I prove there is a cover up? You think I have the funds that the government has. They can cover up anything they want. You just believe anything they tell you. If I had enough money I could convince the world that fairies exist. But they don't!

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Stop! Do not reveal the deepest secrets of your nation, of our nation!

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

How you prove your extraordinary claims is not my problem. If you cannot provide evidence for your claims, then you are simply indulging in a conspiracy theory. If you are talking about it, it means the government hasn't covered it up; there is no secret. You must provide extraordinary proof for your extraordinary claims.

We're here to save you from the Reptilian Overlords! Move over!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Hers a link for you. http://www.rense.com/general72/oinvent.htm. have fun with it.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Your link is flawed, it contains an extra period. You link to a conspiracy theorist. He provides no proof, just more claims like yourself.

Oh no! The other Reptilian Overlord has arrived! Mommy!

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[-] -1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Really? Are you a physicist? Because there are plenty of them that will say not only is this possible its real. Thank you.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 12 years ago

You mean perpetual motion?

Harnessing energy from zero point energy is highly controversial among physicists.

[-] 0 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Yes perpetual. Not zero point in particular. Just new energy technology in general. The fossil fuels and natural gas are outdated. The tech is here now for new sources of clean renewable energy and its being suppressed. Thank you.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 12 years ago

Well technology like next gen nuclear, wave and solar are being surpressed but not perpetual motion

[-] 1 points by tonybaldwin (235) from New Haven, CT 12 years ago

First and foremost is to get corporate $$ and influence out of our government. Indeed, the influence of mammoth oil and energy corporations is what has most stifled the development, and, especially, widespread implementation of new, sustainable energy technologies. I agree, very much, that implementing such technologies is not just important, but, in fact, necessary, essential for our society to move into the future. And, of course, manufacturing, installing, maintaining them will create jobs, the cost of which, in the long run, will be offset in many cases by energy savings. This will kill several birds with one stone (environment, jobs, economy). So, this is very much an important issue, but it simply won't happen if we don't get Issue No. 1 taken care of, first, being, as said, GET CORPORATE $$ OUT OF OUR DEMOCRACY!!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

I agree. Thank you for your comment.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 12 years ago

I had honestly never heard of Tesla; how can that be, when he was bigger than Edison and others we have all heard of. That alone would make one suspicious. I did find this chronology, which shows some remarkable technology for the 19th century: 1891: Tesla improves Hertz-wave wireless transmitter RF power supply or exciter in his patent No. 454,622, "System of Electric Lighting." 1893: Tesla demonstrates the wireless illumination of phosphorescent lamps of his design at the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago.[91] 1893: Tesla publicly demonstrates wireless power before a meeting of the National Electric Light Association in St. Louis.[25][92][93] 1894: Tesla lights incandescent lamps wirelessly at the 35 South Fifth Avenue laboratory in New York City by means of "electro-dynamic induction" or resonant inductive coupling.[94][95][96] 1894: Hutin & LeBlanc, espouse long held view that inductive energy transfer should be possible, they received U.S. Patent # 527,857 describing a system for power transmission at 3 kHz.[97] 1894: Jagdish Chandra Bose ignites gunpowder and rings a bell at a distance using electromagnetic waves, showing that communications signals can be sent without using wires.[98][99] 1896: Tesla demonstrates wireless transmission over a distance of about 48 kilometres (30 mi).[100] 1897: Tesla files his first patent application dealing specifically with wireless transmission. 1899: Tesla continues his wireless power transmission research in Colorado Springs and writes, "the inferiority of the induction method would appear immense as compared with the disturbed charge of ground and air method."[101] 1902: Nikola Tesla vs. Reginald Fessenden - U.S. Patent Interference No. 21,701, System of Signaling (wireless); wireless power transmission, time and frequency domain spread spectrum telecommunications, electronic logic gates in general.[102] 1904: At the St. Louis World's Fair, a prize is offered for a successful attempt to drive a 0.1 horsepower (75 W) airship motor by energy transmitted through space at a distance of at least 100 feet (30 m).[103] 1916: Tesla states, "In my [disturbed charge of ground and air] system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is [electromagnetic] radiation, that energy is radiated. It is not radiated; it is conserved."[104] 1917: Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower is demolished. . . .

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

You have never heard of a Tesla coil? If so then you have heard of him because he invented it. A lightning machine basicaly.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

According to the troll thrasymaque millions of people including scientists are crazy and he is the one with clarity what an ego!

[-] 1 points by jjuussttmmee (607) 12 years ago

limitless energy will be wasted like water down the drain as you brush your tooth the banks are the problem limitless energy is what the young have.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

The banks are the problem. Who do you think runs the energy industry?

[-] 1 points by jjuussttmmee (607) 12 years ago

THE BANKS RUN ALMOST EVERYTHING That is why I said that the banks are the problem. If the bank does not like you or your industry they can not loan you money and try to stunt your growth. They do have ways to control

[-] 1 points by technoviking (484) 12 years ago

I found the energy this guy was talking about:

//i.imgur.com/4QbDs.png

Indeed, we had it for years...

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

That's kinda funny. But I think if you look deeper you might find something worth looking into.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

[-] 1 points by Rico (3027) 12 years ago
[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Double . When will these conspiracy theorists understand that they have the burden of proof, and not us. They need to provide extraordinary evidence for their extraordinary claims. There is no reason to believe in Men in Black unless they are proven to exist, just like there is no reason to believe in fairies for the same reason.

[-] 1 points by conservative4change (12) 12 years ago

Not sure about the zero point energy technology. But perhaps as a more modest start, why not flood the Whitehouse asking why they punted on the Keystone pipeline. Plenty of jobs, lower energy cost in the long-run...

[-] 2 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

This pipeline is just perpetuating the cycle of burning fossil fuels. This is 2011. Aren't we supposed to be intelligent beings? The forms of energy we are using are not sustainable and are destroying life on this planet. We have got to move forward. Thank you.

[-] 1 points by conservative4change (12) 12 years ago

I don't disagree that fossil fuels will eventually be replaced. But the end of the oil supply has been predicted many times, starting back in the 60s. We're finding new sources of natural gas all the time. That's why the price is so low right now - the supply is enormous. Yes, we will run out some day. But that day is far off.

As with all things in technology, innovation is driven by economics. Wind and solar are great technology, but fossil fuels are still cheaper.

As for "destroying life on this planet", I don't agree at all. At least as to how they are used in this country. Fossil fuels have made for a far superior standard of living for just about everyone.

[-] 1 points by rusj (5) 12 years ago

sadly.. the problem has been identified sicne the 60.. yet.. they don't really want to find a real solution.. i wonder why ..

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Mining natural gas is exremely toxic to water supplies and destroys the environment. Drilling for oil also destroys the environment. I think the price of these energy sources is far greater than you are willing to admit. But I respect your opinion. Thank you.

[-] 1 points by DoctorX (11) 12 years ago

Zero point energy? What zero point energy? Get with real physics already. There's no useful energy to be had from the movement of Casimir plates.

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Already clarified this in another comment. Thanks.

[-] 1 points by DoctorX (11) 12 years ago

This is just the usual "a big cabal is suppressing the technology" rigmarole.

Let me take a trip in my Laithwaite drive powered flying saucer if I'm wrong.

[-] 0 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

"Rigmarole"? I suppose you believe our governing body is just and honest and would never do anything to deceive its citizens that it cares so much about. That is your right to believe this. I respect your rights. I personally believe, as well as many occupy supporters probably do, that our government is corrupt. Our government is keeping important information about new energy technologies from the public. And our government is bought and paid for by elite banking families that are perpetuating a sytem that is destroying life on this planet. This is my right and I hope you will afford me the same respect I give you. I keep an open mind and if you would like to try and convince me to believe what you hold to be true. I'm up for debate. Show me any info you can find that supports the idea that we have an honest democratic government. "The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's open."

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

I have one of the Reptilian Overlords in sight! Stay calm, he's already dead!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Wow wasting all your time finding fake photos. That will help solve our nations problems. Thanks for all your effort. You are making the world a better place for sure.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Thank you for wasting our time with conspiracy theory nonsense which, by the way, violates the forum rules.

Ah ah! The little kitty didn't kill me! Ah ah!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

I'm sorry to inform you that its not a theory anymore. You government lies and you fall for it hook line and sinker. Good for you free thinker. Enjoy your sleep through reality. We will just agree to disagree. Thanks for the uneventful discussion.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Extraordinary claims need to be backed up by extraordinary proof. You bear the burden of proof and have provided none. Therefor, there is nothing to discuss, and your post violates the forum rules.

Is there anyone here who had a good discussion with you? Not really. There is nothing to discuss. You have only brought hearsay on the table. A lame conspiracy theory.

Now, feel the wrath of the Reptilian Overlords taking over your page!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

You are right. You win. Abything to shut you up. Have a fantastic life! Move on.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Come back when you have the extraordinary evidence to back up your extraordinary claim. If you have special access to the "secrets" the government is hiding from us with its Men in Black, I suggest you show these "secrets" to the world by making a webpage. There are many countries around, and you could certainly interest some of them in this marvelous and magical source of energy you have uncovered. You could make a lot of money!

Until then, until the day you provide your extraordinary evidence, there will also be Reptilian Overlords watching your every step! Mommy!!!

[-] 1 points by BraddDavis (10) 12 years ago

Yea, those pesky "men in black" ruin everything.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Unfortunately the OP doesn't understand basic science. He doesn't understand that perpetual machines are a physical impossibility. He doesn't understand that he needs to provide extraordinary proof for his extraordinary claims; that he bears the burden of proof, not us. This post is useless unless the OP can show proof that these Men in Black and the "secret" technology they are repressing exist. Unless he can do this, it's just the same as if I were posting about the existence of fairies or dragons. Ah shucks! These "theorists" don't understand the first steps of scientific theory.

Indeed, an amazing invention exists which creates amazing energy for nothing and forever. The scientists who have made this discovery are being silenced from the Men in Black. But, wait, if we know about this, it's because the Men in Black are not very efficient at silencing anything! Every country of the world has access to this marvelous unprecedented technology through the Internet, just like our little detective the OP. I guess all the governments on the planet are working together to suppress it. They are so organized! Ah! If only one of the poor countries with no oil and nearly no food would just use this technology to make themselves God-like. Ah ah! They would have infinite energy for free. Of course, they can't. The Men in Black control the whole world, and they are helped by the Reptilian Overlords! Don't let the movie fool you people. It's a conspiracy from the dreadful government. The Men in Black don't chase the Reptilian Overlords, they work with them!

Oh no! A Reptilian Overlord! Mommy help!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Quite an assuption that I don't understand basic science. I don't have to prove anything. Go look into it yourself. Don't believe anything I say. EDUCATE YOURSELF. Its not my job to prove this stuff. It is your job to find out the truth. Thank you. Smart ass!

[-] 1 points by superman22x (188) 12 years ago

There isn't such a technology. Look at energy densities of different materials. Come on man, I've looked through research projects of MIT students who are working on the same project as me at MTU. Energy efficient vehicles. Oh yes, we have a 1,000 mpg car. It runs on a 50cc briggs and straton. And it's basically just a carbon fiber shell with an engine.
Water is your most abundant resource. But it's incredibly expensive to split H and O.
You can watch the movie "gashole" if you want to read about some 100mpg cars, but I don't think those are really true. The famed "Water Carb" that Shell supposedly bought off.
I've worked for both GM and Marathon. There are no secrets.

[-] 1 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Do you have proof your co-workers aren't or weren't Reptilian Overlords veiling the truth from your eyes? What about the Men in Black? If you haven't seen them, how do you know they do not exist? Don't shut your mind, it works like a parachute. I needs to be open! Open to all of the world's craziest possibilities. Watch out! A Reptilian Overlord is lurking behind you...

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

You bear the burden of proof because you make these extraordinary claims.

Oh no! Another Reptilian Overlord! Mommy, help me again!

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

[-] 0 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Are you sure you are an adult. This is pretty childish stuff here thrasy. Get real. I can't wait til all of you debunkers choke on your feet. That will be picture worthy.

[-] 1 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Debunkers? You have provided nothing to debunk! You provide no extraordinary proof for your extraordinary claims. Why should we be bothered to debunk you? Do you bother debunking people who believe in fairies, dragons, and Santa Claus. I don't. I have better things to do.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

What truth? where? You haven't provided any evidence? Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy? Where is your extraordinary evidence for your extraordinary claims?

Mommy!!! Reptilian Overlords are everywhere!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

Whers your proof that it doesn't exist. Mr truth. Ha ha take that.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Nothing can be proven not to exist. You cannot prove that fairies do not exist. The one who makes a claim bears the burden of proof, and in this case it's you, not anyone else.

I exist! I am a Reptilian Overlord from the planet Reticuli!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

For you to compare free energy to fairies and dragons is absolutely ridiculous. You can't see the difference. Wow what a fool you are.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

There is no difference to see. There is no such thing as fairies, and there is no such thing as free energy. You have not provided extraordinary evidence for your extraordinary claims!

Watch out! I hear another Reptilian Overlord nearby! He might attack at any time!

[-] 1 points by XXAnonymouSXX (455) 12 years ago

12 no I'm guessing your 14. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

[-] 0 points by WolfThom (90) 12 years ago

: The Senate is set to vote on a bill next week that would define the whole of the United States as a “battlefield” and allow the U.S. Military to arrest American citizens in their own back yard without charge or trial. GlobalResearch

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http://www.larouchepac.com

Michael C. Rupperts Peak Oil Blog - Peak Oil and 9.11.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com

[-] 0 points by genanmer (822) 12 years ago

Current Alternative energies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnRyVK7HqJE

Open source energy designs/projects: http://peswiki.com/energy/OS

Solar roads = jobs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4L18zOEYI

compressed air car = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RBl1LFUQ4c&feature=youtu.be

Current cars and all other common transport vehicles are made inefficient INTENTIONALLY: http://www.grist.org/list/2011-08-15-record-breaking-electric-car-gets-1000-miles-to-the-charge http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-06/gm-says-volt-electric-car-drives-1-000-miles-between-fillups-in-testing.html

nano-electric generation and recycling artificial light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wHGh2eRbLE

There's many many many more energy technologies that will either save or create abundance. But for the public to ever see these technologies put to use, people must stop treating money and businesses as sacred godlike entities.

[-] 0 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 12 years ago

This would be covered by the working group on item #7

NGA NOW all roads lead to Philadelphia July 4th 2012

https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

[-] -1 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago