Forum Post: TheVenusProject.
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 3, 2011, 5:20 a.m. EST by MrDavid
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just hear me out, i hear you saying stuff like "wall street is corrupt" and "occupy wall street".
and to tell to be honest you got it right,they are grredy and all they want is your money. but now what? your not giving any solutions.
please i'm not your enemy,but if you want a better world without poverty,crime,suffering,death,misery,hunger,war,and diseases.
please see the movie zeitgeist moving forward or visit the website www.thevenusproject.com
please just check it out,and if you don't like it please explain why i would like to know,ask me anything and i'll be more then happy to replay!
We've been lied 2 so much over the decades it's difficult 2 try & 'trust' again. I say this from my own experience & 64 yrs on this $$-go-round. Each generation "wants better 4 their children" & i was/am no different. After disappointment upon disappointment, one gets a little dejected. We've lived paycheck 2 paycheck 4 41 yrs of marriage & i'm sick of it. Our paychecks stopped progressing in 1975 but prices continued rising & product quality continued to tank. I have also found to b true something Jacque Fresco has said "you're only as free as your purchasing power allows". I was introduced 2 the zeitgeist films by a 26 y/o & boy was i glued. i sorta knew my whole life 'something not right.' Anyway, during Z Addendum i was introduced to Mr. Fresco & his ideas of a Resource Based Economy as outlined in The Venus Project (from Venus, FL). Then i began 2 b more interested in science & technology 'cause i had no idea there were so many things that could be fixed or replaced by using technology intelligently 4 the betterment o/t earth, it's resources & ALL it's inhabitants. Example: cars can b made so they don't crash into one another? The possibility of free,clean,sustainable energy has been around since 1927? If resources used wisely we could provide 4 the whole global family?, etc, etc I was kept so very busy working while my children grew up, i had no idea what was really happening or what our real history was. I believed & trusted the 'status quo' Anyway, i've been following TZM/TVP/RBE ideas 4 a few years now & we are READY for a Resource Based Economy. Just think, this generation can FINALLY say "take this job & shove it" If the necessities of life r provided 4 all, you get 2 pursue ur real interests & passions, instead of working 10-18 hrs/day just 2 'make ends meet'. You get 2 develop your creativity & critical thinking, instead of bcoming a 'brick in the wall'. You get 2 enjoy & be w/your kids/family more. You get 2 travel, see the world & meet new people. You actually get to be....FREE!!! If, at my age, i can wrap my head around new values, then certainly this generation should b able to. A RBE provides all the answers/solutions that this movement is trying to put across to everyone. To me, a RBE should b shouted from the rooftops. This could actually be the end of slavery, don't you see that. This movement of people seeking freedom 2 live a fulfilling life w/o harm 2 each other or the environment has been going on since the days of Moses. If we want a world w/o war, hunger, poverty & debt then a RBE is the answer. Otherwise, trust an 'oldie' there will b very little change and the change 4 the better only goes to the top. We need 2 get r heads out of the sands of ignorance/denial; out of r ego; and out of the clouds thinking some spirit is gonna help us & put r feet on the ground to actually create 'heaven on earth' & by heaven i don't mean w/some kinda angels flyin' around w/wings. Let's get real here and do this thing. In a RBE our pledge of allegiance might go something like: "We pledge allegiance to the earth, it's resources and it's inhabitants. And to the emergence of all living things, as: one life, one family and one world." If that's not the most humane, spiritual, decent, holistic pledge around, then i don't know what is. We usually recommend that people visit the sites because that's how we all bcame familiar w/this idea. It's one of those "oh, that could never happen things" but if that were true we'd still b livin' in caves & thinking the earth was flat. We CAN make manifest the lyrics of John Lennon's "Imagine" C'mon guys, don't get pulled into the 'adult' scene & fade away like the 60's did. We had the passion but you guys have the internet & seem 2 b more intelligent. I love and support all of you along with The Zeitgeist Movement & The Venus Project. We all want the same thing & Jacque has the blueprints 4 a better life. Please visit www.unitinghumans.com A member put together a great collage of info which hopefully will excite your interest!! Carry on lil' brothers & sisters, you are kickin' ass!!! In solidarity, Mamma D "^_^"
thank you for you'r kind words and sincerity,keep spreading the word your doing a great job.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/approaching-a-metapolitical-discourse/
http://metapolitik.org/article/approaching-metapolitical-discourse
what is this? another experiment into human behavior and conditioning veiled behind a veil of new age spirituality?
preying on the weak and simple minded are we?
planning another mass suicide with the passing of the next comment?
fucking koch-suckers!
It's called a resource based economy. Think of it as the society Wall Street doesn't want to see. The Zeitgeist movement has been around for some 3-4 years and the film Zeitgeist: Moving Forward (3rd in the Z series) was released January 15th of this year. It already has 12,500,000 views on You Tube. Ironically the ending is OWS. http://www.youtube.com/user/TZMOfficialChannel
How does this help the common man? Looks to me like a lot of money that the 1% will spend.
well the venus project believe that all people need clean air,clean food,a place to live,and anything you want to study you study without getting out of a university owning it 10,000$,every resources is available to everybody and not to 1% of the world. The Venus Project is an organization that proposes a feasible plan of action for social change, one that works towards a peaceful and sustainable global civilization. It outlines an alternative to strive toward where human rights are no longer paper proclamations but a way of life
Zeitgeist: Marxism with Robots
http://the-classic-liberal.com/zeitgeist-marxism-with-robots/
did you even see the movie? because they are making it clear why it is not Marxisem.
the zeitgeist movement and the venus project do not appeal to any form of goverment, nor to capitalism, marxism,fascism,communism,socialism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
heres the movie,see it and judge yourself please.
We are not alone:
Adhocracy — A drafting and (delegated) voting tool for small and medium-sized groups
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Adhocracy_project
Candiwi — Wiki software based on consensus, synthesis, and a distributed framework ("candid distributed wiki").
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Candiwi
CrowdVote — A bridge between direct and representative democracy, with delegated representation through social media.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/CrowdVote
Cyber Democracy - A concept which seeks to combine direct democracy with mainstream portable information technology such as smartphones and tablets.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Cyber_Democracy
DemocracyLab — Software using participants' posts and votes to build a dynamic map of political thought designed to facilitate consensus and solve problems.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/DemocracyLab
Determining Evaluation Voting — A quite advanced mathematical method to select a winner by letting voters evaluate(/score) alternatives. The method minimizes tactics and applies desired amount of consensus assign by a number.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Determining_Evaluation_Voting
Dynamic Democracy — An experiment that lets its users suggest and vote on bills that they wish the government was considering.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Dynamic_Democracy
Eudemocracia — Activist Latin American NGO based in Buenos Aires city. It promotes the open democracy philosophy.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Eudemocracia
GenerallyAssembled.com — An online general assembly platform.
http://generallyassembled.com/
Indaba Application Network — The platform running WeVote (on Facebook) and ChoiceRanker.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Indaba_Application_Network
Leading Boards— portal is for Board members and their meetings where they can view documents and archives online plus e-votes, collaborative and networking tools.
http://www.leadingboards.com/
Liquid Feedback –– The legislation platform used by the Piratenpartei in various parliaments of Germany.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Liquid_Feedback
NationBuilder — The platform running The White House 2, and a growing number of other systems.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/NationBuilder
Openpolitics — Canadian wiki based project for deliberation on political issues.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Openpolitics
StratML — An American national standard (ANSI/AIIM 21:2009) for strategic plans, with XForms and PDF Fillable forms authoring/editing interfaces and various service prototypes.
http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm
Telematics Freedom Foundation — Promotes democracy, including media and global democracy, through the promotion of telematic solutions (see linked page for list).
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Telematics_Freedom_Foundation
Vilfredo goes to Athens — Software which uses mathematical formulae to help participants build a consensus on an open question.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Vilfredo
Virtual Parliament — UK site allowing anyone to suggest and vote on policies.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Virtual_Parliament
Votorola — Software for building consensus and reaching decisions on local, national and global levels.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Votorola
Votetocracy — US site allowing citizens to vote on bills in Congress and send those votes to representatives.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Votetocracy
Wisdom Of Crowds — Open Source collaborative platform for making decisions build on top of Yii framework.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Wisdom_Of_Crowds
opendemocracy.fi — A community-based hybrid between direct and representative democracy
http://opendemocracy.wikidot.com/
"I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
— Thomas Jefferson, 1816
Direct Digital Democracy will be here sooner or later.
It's only a matter of time:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/approaching-a-metapolitical-discourse/
http://metapolitik.org/article/approaching-metapolitical-discourse
http://rebooting.personaldemocracy.com/
http://rebootingdemocracy.org/
http://rebooting.personaldemocracy.com/files/Rebooting_America.pdf
http://digital-democracy.org/
http://www.digitaldemocracy.org.uk/
http://www.rushkoff.com/open-source-democracy/
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/10753/pg10753.html
Sounds too good to be true. I'll pass and leave it to the next sucker. I don't believe we are anywhere near immortality. And, honestly, I don't know if I would want to be immortal.
That's the problem with the Zeitgeist henchmen. If I have a question you don't answer it, you just replay the movie. How wonderful is that?
the venus project do not discussed about an immortal issue nor did it ever did, i don't know where you got your information from
but this is what the venus project is all about: The Venus Project is an organization that Attempt to bring alternative solutions by committing social change and bringing world peace to all nations by Realizing the declaration of the world's resources as being the common heritage of all people,and replacing the monetary system to a Resource Based Economy where the highest technology and good food,and resources are available to all and to the few.
please read about it,and if you don't like it thats ok.
Without death = immortality
I read all about it.
i asure you that i didn't ment something like "immortality",when i said "death" i ment people dying from the lack of resources. i'm sorry if i mislead you. and you said you read all about it,i would like to know where you get this false information about the venus project?..
anyway again if your intersted to know more about it tell me or visit the main website www.thevenusproject.com..
Don't spam, or you'll feel the wrath of Spam Man. You already posted that link in your message; no need to repeat it. I already told you where I got this false information; from you! Without death = immortality. You should edit your main post instead of going over something we already clarified. Be careful, I do not tolerate spam. Spam Man is very eager to come here. You are tempting his limits.
WARNING: If see you bump this post one more time by creating a comment then deleting it, it's Spam Man time.
Since MrDavid obviously doesn't have the fine communication skills that you do, I'd be happy to try and answer your question. It should be obvious that replay was merely a typo, in a post full of typo's, and your comment brings you shame, not him.
Ah yes, indeed. Quite observant you are.