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Forum Post: the USFWC supports occupy wallstreet

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 5, 2011, 1:11 p.m. EST by ronimacarroni (1089)
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[-] 1 points by Nanook (172) 12 years ago

I have long been a strong supporter of the worker-coop movement because of its general goals to share corporate wealth and employee decision making. HOWEVER, coops will also fail if they don't overcome the primary faults of democracy the way humans currently implement them. PLEASE, read the discussion about the failures of democracy that are crippling us all. ( A3society.org under the democracy tab: Tyranny of the Majority and Fixing Democracy). Please help implement these needed changes throughout the coop federation so that they may grow and prosper.

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Copy and paste from the PDF, who wants to download that stuff just to read it?

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

Also the UN declared 2012 the international year of cooperatives


[-] 1 points by aeturnus (231) from Robbinsville, NC 12 years ago

It can only be a good thing. I am a strong supporter of the cooperative concept in general, believing that it can provide many with an alternative.

It can only be a good thing if we can manage to find a way to couple our ideas against corporate power with an incentive to occupy workplaces.

It can only be a good thing if we can provide mechanisms for people to find ways to bring sustainability and control to economics.

These protests are not typical and are more revolutionary than most of that which has occurred in the past, both in force and in spread. These protests have the ability to attack the functioning of capitalism at its roots, to open doors to people who otherwise feel they have no power in their lives to make changes. We need to provide links, I believe, showing people that we are not going to sit around and let the 1% dictate your or our lives.

I don't believe OWS has done enough in this regard, though there are definitely those that are pushing for it. If we can link to cooperatives as a means to provide better resources for people to take part in, then that can only be a starting point at one angle for change.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

You might be wondering what the advantage is over a regular business.

The advantage would be that you share the capital and thus the risk among the workers and decisions are made democratically on how the capital should be spent.

In a worker's coop the workers become the sole shareholders.

If anyone is into organic farming it'd be a good model to follow for instance.

[-] 1 points by Marquee (192) 12 years ago

Exccellent!! More and more support every day!! Keep protesting. Continue attempting dialogue. People're listening.

[-] 0 points by theCheat (85) 12 years ago

another union. You would sell your souls to the devil to get his support.

[-] 2 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

They're not unions. Unions work within businesses.

Worker cooperatives ARE businesses.

Not that there's anything wrong with worker's bargaining rights.

An example of a popular form of worker's cooperative are credit unions.

PS. No credit unions are not unions either.

[-] 1 points by theCheat (85) 12 years ago

I am a member of a credit union and I disapprove of this movement.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago


[-] 1 points by theCheat (85) 12 years ago

I do not believe that this is an honest movement. the problem starts in Washington DC, yet for some reason OWS does not want to go after the politicians, those that make the laws that Wall street is guided by. I believe that most people involved in this movement are either socialist, Marxist or communist and I base this on the fact that I personally know, and have know for over 15 years, one of the facilitators and original members of OWS. He is an avowed Marxist. I know that he is guiding the discussions and as such the direction of the movement. I also believe there are a bunch of college age people who have grown up under the assumption that awards are given out just for showing up and now that real-life has hit them in the face they do not want to play by the rules.

[-] 1 points by doctorlove (-10) 12 years ago

because you are an asshole, that's why

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago


[-] 0 points by doctorlove (-10) 12 years ago

by the way, no one and I repeat NO ONE supports OWS. It is a bunch of fudgepacking, hippie fuckoffs that know one likes

[-] 0 points by doctorlove (-10) 12 years ago

Some Credit Unions are union Credit Unions just like Amalgmated Bank is a union bank jackass. Get your facts straight before you spew your bullshit garbage

[-] 2 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

"A credit union is a cooperative financial institution that is owned and controlled by its members and operated for the purpose of promoting thrift, providing credit at competitive rates, and providing other financial services to its members."


[-] -1 points by doctorlove (-10) 12 years ago

but some are union run shops and you said above they aren't. Again, anyone can quote the world wide web but very few are as knowledgeable as I am. Bring on your wiki shit and I will give you straight fucking facts Mr. Noodlehead

[-] 2 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

Fine then I'll check the dictionary

credit union   noun a cooperative group that makes loans to its members at low rates of interest.

source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/credit+union

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